Listen to the Call:
AUROURA MEDICAL SERVICES
1207 N. 300TH SL # 214
SEATTLE, WA 98133
Tape – 848
(Dialing) (1 ring)
CLINIC: Aurora Medical Services this is Lori.
CALLER: Hi, yeah, I call to see if, umm, you guys do abortions there?
CLINIC: Yeah, we do them Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday.
CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does it cost for that?
CLINIC: It depends on, umm, a bunch of things. Do you have insurance?
CALLER: Well, no. My boyfriend said he would pay for everything.
CLINIC: Umm, do you make any money?
CALLER: Well, no. Well the thing is, umm, I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to, umm, tell my parents about all this, but my boyfriend’s 22 is he old enough to take care of it and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody? He said he’d pay cash for everything.
CLINIC: No, I know. I’m just, umm, saying because you could actually probably
qualify for medical coupons–
CALLER: Oh, really?
CLINIC: –through the Department of Social and Health Services.
CALLER: But would they have to tell anybody if I was there for that?
CLINIC: No, no. They wouldn’t tell anyone. I mean, you can keep it confidential, if you need to keep it, umm–
CLINIC: Do you know when you last menstrual period was?
CALLER: Umm, it was like February 3rd.
CLINIC: February 3rd? My birthday. Hang on a second, I’m gonna just see how exactly how far you’d be.
CALLER: Oh, I mean January 3rd. I’m sorry.
CLINIC: Its January 3rd?
CLINIC: Oh, okay. Umm, okay, so, right now you’re between 11 and 12 weeks. So you’re almost 12 weeks actually. Umm, so you probably would want to get this done as soon as possible, because the longer you wait now, the abortion actually changes the kind of procedure they use. Umm, it actually changes at–
CALLER: Well, is there any minimum age to get an abortion, or ?
CLINIC: Oh, let me find out. Hold on a second, okay?
CLINIC: Yeah, there’s no parental consent for any age here in Washington state.
CALLER: ‘Cause I’ll be 14 April 4th. So, that would be alright?
CLINIC: Yeah, I mean there’s no age of consent here.
CLINIC: So, you don’t have to worry about that. Umm-
CLINIC: –but, as far as getting it paid for, umm–
CALLER: Well, my boyfriend’s 22, he has a job, is that alright? He can take of it?
CLINIC: I mean, it’s fine if he wants to – what I’m saying is that its real – its pretty expensive. So, umm–
CALLER: Well, how much?
CLINIC: Well, because, umm, you’re – you would be getting a discount, because you don’t make any money, it would be 511 dollars for up to 12 weeks.
CLINIC: But if you pass 12 weeks, then it would be – it would get more and more expensive.
CLINIC: So, umm, that would be 650 dollars between 13 and 14 weeks, and after that, it would become a two day procedure, and that would be 893 dollars, okay?
CALLER: Okay, so, well, its just- me and my boyfriend were talking about all this, and we didn’t want anyone to know about us. If he was paying for it all, would he have to sign anything, or have his name on any forms?
CLINIC: Umm, well, not if it was cash–
CLINIC: –you know, but I mean, you would have your name on everything.
CLINIC: I mean, well, what this really – what I’m saying is that, I mean, he can pay for it all in cash, but to me it makes more sense that you would just go and get these coupons from the government and —
CALLER: Oh. But we don’t want anyone to know about us, so-
CLINIC: Well, no one would know except for, you know, the state government and you. Unless, I mean, and if you told them not to send the coupon to your home, then they shouldn’t do that.
CALLER: But would the state government have to say anything about me and my boyfriend, or anything? Like how old he is or anything?
CLINIC: Oh, I see what you’re saying. Right. Because that’s legally – no that’s illegal
CLINIC: What I’m saying is–
CALLER: We just don’t want anyone to know about us. Why is it illegal?
CLINIC: Oh, its illegal because that’s considered statutory rape. (unclear)
CALLER: What!? He’s not raping me. I mean – we’re in love, we’re going to get married. He’s going to take care of me forever.
CLINIC: No, don’t freak out or anything. I’m not trying to criticize or whatever, but legally in the eyes of the government I’m pretty sure that’s considered statutory rape.
CALLER: Well, what could happen.
CLINIC: Umm, What could happen for him? Like, I mean, nothing unless somebody prosecuted him. So, its just —
CALLER: Would you guys?
CALLER: So, it’d be okay if he came in and you guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody, or get him in trouble or anything.
CLINIC: I don’t think so. I really don’t believe so, its just that your confidentiality is totally held very, very private here. Okay?
CALLER: Oh, alright.
CALLER: Well, I haven’t taken a pregnancy test yet. Would you guys do that beforehand just to make sure.
CLINIC: Umm. We would like you to actually do one first. Umm, how do you know that your pregnant if you haven’t had a pregnancy test.
CALLER: Well, I just haven’t had my period for a long time and I’m scared.
CLINIC: Okay. I need you to take a pregnancy test first.
CALLER: So do I come in there for that?
CLINIC: You could come in here and do one. That’s fine. Where do you live?
CALLER: Umm, I live in Seattle.
CLINIC: Like in downtown Seattle?
CLINIC: Umm, then I would say that you could go to, I mean, any doctor’s office and get one, or you could even take one from the store.
CALLER: Oh, are those usually right though?
CLINIC: Yeah, they’re pretty accurate if you just follow the directions properly. But if you’re worried about it then I would say go to Planned Parenthood or something.
CLINIC: There’s a couple of – in downtown that you could go to and —
CALLER: Oh, would they have to tell anybody?
CLINIC: Well, you don’t tell them anything. All you tell them is that you want a pregnancy test and they do it for free.
CALLER: Oh, okay.
CLINIC: Umm, where do you live in Seattle.
CALLER: Umm, I live with a friend of mine right now, so.
CLINIC: Like, how – but, where?
CALLER: I’m not really sure. I’m just visiting like for like- but I’m from Yukama, and I’m just visiting her ’cause – well, she told me about you guys and stuff, so..
CLINIC: Oh, okay. Umm, mmm. So this is a tough situation. Umm, how – is your friend have a car or something?
CALLER: Well, my boyfriend does.
CLINIC: Oh, okay.
CALLER: Its just she -she has been through all this before so.
CLINIC: Oh, okay. Umm, cause like, umm, you could get one over the counter, like a test, okay?
CLINIC: And if you don’t want to deal with the government at all. Umm, I mean, that’s just the best situtation.
CALLER: That’s what my boyfriend said, so.
CLINIC: He doesn’t want to deal with that at all?
CLINIC: Okay, then I would say you should just go get an over-the-counter test to make sure you’re pregnant, first of all. Umm, and – and if that is negative or something, then I would go to a Planned Parenthood.
CLINIC: And there’s one right downtown. Umm, and you can just get a test done. Are you downtown in Seattle? That’s – well, what I’m asking is you could you come here or do you just want to do it downtown? What’s good for you?
CALLER: Well, she told me to call you guys and talk to you guys and go there. So —
CLINIC: Okay, so can you tell me like where your address is and then I could what would be closer for you to do.
CALLER: Well, I don’t really want to tell you my address. It’s just, I’m at her house and if, like, you guys send us anything it would like be to her family- I’m not on the address, or – I’m not usually here to get mail or anything.
CLINIC: Oh, I wouldn’t send you anything. I mean, well, another thing is this, like, I’m not trying to scare you away from anything. No one is going to divulge your confidentiality here, okay? First of all, I want you to know that, okay? Umm, but they do need, like, umm, an address in case of needing to, umm, send information to you somehow.
CALLER: Well, umm, could I give you my boyfriend’s address?
CLINIC: Yep, you totally could do that, and its also for emergency stuff, they need an emergency contact, okay?
CLINIC: So you need to be comfortable about divulging that kind of information, okay?
CALLER: Okay. Well, let me call my boyfriend and see, but I was also wondering, umm, if it came out that I wasn’t pregnant after I do like the home pregnancy test, would I be able to get birth control from you guys?
CLINIC: Yeah, totally.
CALLER: Its just that we don’t want to have to worry about all this again.
CLINIC: Yeah, definitely. I mean, you could even do that after you have your procedure. Umm, so you can come here and have a pregnancy test, or you can do it if your downtown in Seattle, do it downtown. I mean, its really just kind of dependent on where you live where would be most convenient for you. Or, you could just get one over the counter, and then, so that’s your first step, make sure that you’re definitely pregnant. Do you feel any symptoms of pregnancy?
CALLER: What do you mean?
CLINIC: Do you – have you – can you – well, if you’d be at 12 weeks right now you might be feeling, like, that you’re gaining weight, but you may not be showing at all. I mean, you probably would be showing a little bit in your belly area, but have you had any breast tenderness?
CLINIC: Have you had any nausea or vomiting?
CLINIC: No? Okay. Have you bled or had any cramping or anything like that in the past two months?
CLINIC: In the last 2 or 3 months – No? Okay. I mean, you could very well not be having those symptoms, but, umm, but it’s a good idea to take a pregnancy test first, okay. Before you start freaking out over everything. But you should – if its negative, you could surely come here and get birth control too.
CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody if I was on birth control?
CLINIC: No, not at all.
CLINIC: Not at all.
CALLER: And you’re sure nobody has to know about any of this.
CLINIC: Yep! We have patients here that are underage all the time.
CALLER: Okay. I just wish I could talk to my mom like I talk to you.
CALLER: Umm, I need to call my boyfriend and see, but what was your name so I
CLINIC: My name’s Lori. So if you want to us just,umm, figure out how you’re going to do that and see where you are located. If you want to come here, you can come here and get a pregnancy test done. Or —
CALLER: What are your hours?
CLINIC: Today we are actually open until probably around, umm, 7:30. But, usually we’re only open until around 5:30. Like Mondays and —
CALLER: So, if I came in today I could get it done and that would be–
CLINIC: Oh, what, a pregnancy test?
CLINIC: Yeah. You could totally do it today. Umm, the abortion, the times we schedule are Thurs- or Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. Because of where you’re at, and supposely, because we don’t know first of all where you’re at in your pregnancy, like if it is your last menstrual period was on January 3rd, then that would make you at 12 weeks. Umm, so we would need to schedule you probably, umm, on a Thursday or Friday, just because, umm, of not really knowing, and not being that confident, case, you know, you would have to come back in and do a two-day procedure, or if you needed to do a two-day procedure.
CALLER: Okay. Just as long as nobody has to know.
CLINIC: Yeah! No nobody will have to know about anything. Confidentiality is totally maintained here, okay? So don’t be afraid of all that.
CALLER: Yeah, I feel a lot better.
CLINIC: Yeah. Umm, its totally legal for you to have all this stuff done at your free will, okay?
CLINIC: Umm, so why don’t you figure out how you’re going to do the pregnancy test, first. Okay?
CLINIC: And then give me a call back, and, umm, and we’ll figure out from there. Okay?
CALLER: Alright, thank you.
CLINIC: Okay, you’re welcome. Bye, bye.