Listen to the Call:
910 W. MERCURY BLVD.
HAMPTON, VA 23666-4334
TAPE – 177
(dialing sound) (ringing 1X)
CLINIC: Hampton Planned Parenthood. How can I help you?
CALLER: Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.
CLINIC: We do at our Norfolk location but not at Hampton. We can counsel you at Hampton.
CLINIC: The procedure’s done at Norfolk.
CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know if there’s a specific age limit for that? Like I’ll be 14 in March.
CLINIC: You’ll be 14 in March?
CLINIC: You need to have a parent come with you —
CALLER: Is there any way not to do that? Like my parents can’t find out at all, because like — well the problem is like my boyfriend’s 22, and we’re going to get married, but they hate him because they think he’s too old for me. So they can’t find out at all.
CLINIC: Okay. You know, I mean, you can’t get married at 14.
CALLER: Well, yeah, we were going to wait, but —
CLINIC: Okay. Where do you live?
CALLER: I live in Ark.
CLINIC: In where?
CLINIC: Where’s that?
CALLER: It’s north of where you’re at.
CLINIC: How far from me?
CALLER: I’m not real sure.
CLINIC: Okay. Who would bring you?
CALLER: My boyfriend.
CLINIC: Okay. When could you get here?
CALLER: I don’t know. I’d have to call him and see.
CLINIC: Okay. Is there a number I can call you back?
CALLER: Well, no. I’m at my friend’s house and her mom’s here, so.
CLINIC: Is her — does her mom know what’s going on?
CLINIC: Okay. Can you call me back in 20 minutes?
CALLER: What’s your name?
CLINIC: My name is Pam.
CALLER: All right. Okay. Yeah.
CLINIC: Okay, Sweetie.
CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.
(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)
CLINIC: Hampton Planned Parenthood. How may I help you?
CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wanting to talk to Pam.
CLINIC: She just went in with a patient. May I take a message for her?
CALLER: Well, is it all right if I talk — if I just call back later?
CALLER: Okay, thanks.
CLINIC: You’re welcome. Bye bye.
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CLINIC: Hampton Planned Parenthood. How can I help you?
CALLER: Yeah. I was calling to talk to Pam.
CLINIC: Okay. Could you hold, please?
CLINIC: (recorded music, long interval) Thank you for holding. How can I help you?
CALLER: Yeah. I was asking about like my boyfriend. Is Pam there?
CLINIC: Oh. She’s with a patient. Are you the one that came in yesterday, Christian?
CALLER: No, I didn’t’ come in. I was asking questions.
CLINIC: Uh-huh. Hold on. (music)
CLINIC: This is Pam. How can I help you?
CALLER: Yeah. I was asking about like my boyfriend and stuff.
CLINIC: Yes. Okay, sweetie. First of all, there’s two things I wanted to let you know. Number one, you know that 14 and 22 is illegal in the state of Virginia, right?
CALLER: What? I don’t understand.
CLINIC: That relationship is illegal. It’s considered statutory rape.
CALLER: What could happen? I don’t — but we’re in love. I don’t understand.
CLINIC: I can certainly understand how you feel. I’m just telling you the law. Okay?
CALLER: Well, what could happen? What do I do?
CLINIC: What could happen is, is that you can go to the court and get a judgement that would allow you to have the procedure without your parents’ consent. You have to get to the courthouse, file the papers, pay the fees whatever it costs, and you’d have to call the courthouse nearest you and find out how you’d do it, okay? But when they, when your partner comes in they’re going to see that you are 14 and he is 22, and they may very well press charges.
CALLER: Oh. Well, what should I say about him?
CLINIC: I don’t know what you can say. It’s considered illegal. I mean, there’s — I don’t know what else to tell you except for the fact that in the state of Virginia that’s a reportable, illegal offense.
CALLER: Would they take him to jail or what? Like what do you mean?
CLINIC: Yes, they might.
CALLER: They wouldn’t.
CLINIC: They might.
CALLER: Well what — I don’t know what to do. Like — well, what if like — I don’t know.
CLINIC: I think that — first of all, when was your last period?
CALLER: It was the first week in December.
CLINIC: Your period was the first week in December? So you’re over 12 weeks pregnant.
CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, what does that mean?
CLINIC: Well, it means that in the state of Virginia you can only have a termination up to 14 weeks.
CLINIC: So you are — let me see here — you are 11 weeks today.
CLINIC: All right? By my dates, okay? Which means you have three weeks to get your papers filed and get into a clinic.
CALLER: Okay. What if the —
CLINIC: If you don’t, it gets into the thousands of dollars to have the procedure done.
CALLER: Well, what if the judge says no?
CLINIC: He may say no, which means you’ll either have to tell mom and dad. I can tell you this much. If you don’t tell your parents, you run a much higher risk because of the problems that you’re going to face in terms of your age of having this baby. And if you don’t want to have this baby, I just really suggest that you tell your parents.
CALLER: I just can’t tell them at all.
CLINIC: Why not?
CALLER: Well, because they would totally flip out. I don’t know what they would do.
CLINIC: But they love you more than anything else. I mean, they want to do what’s best for you.
CALLER: They just don’t ever understand anything. I don’t — I can’t talk to them.
CLINIC: Who — how are you going to pay for this?
CALLER: My boyfriend was going to pay for everything.
CLINIC: Does he know how much it is?
CALLER: Well, he was — he was asking me to call and see.
CLINIC: Okay. You’re talking — you’re going to be looking at around $400 minimum, okay?
CALLER: Okay. All right.
CLINIC: Is that doable?
CLINIC: Okay. You need to call your local courthouse and see what the procedures are, but I wanted to give you a heads up on the fact that the relationship you’re entering into, even though it’s consensual meaning both of you consent, can still be looked at and charges can still be brought.
CALLER: Okay. Are you going to tell anybody?
CLINIC: No, ma’am.
CALLER: All right.
CLINIC: As your physician, everything is confidential that you tell me.
CALLER: If I came in there for the pregnancy test, would you have to tell anybody?
CLINIC: No. Do you know if you’re pregnant?
CALLER: Well, I, I don’t know. I took a home pregnancy test over the weekend, and —
CLINIC: And did it come up positive?
CLINIC: Okay, then you’re pregnant.
CALLER: Oh, all right. Well, are there any way that it would be wrong?
CLINIC: Probably not. Those are pretty accurate if you took it the right way.
CALLER: Oh. Well, all right.
CLINIC: I mean, you could certainly come in and see me. I just — if you’re far away from me I hate for you to wait, you know, waste travel time. But if you would like to both come in and talk with me, I can, you know, give you some of your options and kind of lay down, you know, what the Virginia law is.
CALLER: Okay. Well, we could both come in and talk to you?
CALLER: All right. And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?
CLINIC: No, not at this time because it would just be a consult.
CALLER: Okay. Thanks.
CLINIC: Okay, sweetheart. Bye bye.
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