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#060 – Planned Parenthood in Beverly, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
2224 ROUTE 130 # A10
BEVERLY, NJ 8010
609-871-4220

TAPE – 060

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. Well, do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: No? Do you know of any place that I could talk to or call?

CLINIC: No. You can just look in the phone book. We don’t give that information over the phone though.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Is it all right if I ask you a question real quick?

CLINIC: We don’t give any information about abortion over the phone, at all.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, like, I’m just really worried. My friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: We don’t do abortions, hon. You’d have to ask whoever you called. Okay?

CALLER: Oh. All right. Well, do you guys do like birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Yeah? Do you have to tell my parents about that?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you have to be a certain age for that?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Because I’ll be 14 months in March. And that’s all right and everything?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: And you guys wouldn’t tell my parents or anybody at all? Because my boyfriend’s 22, and we’re going to get married. But they don’t like him because they think he’s too old for me.

CLINIC: Well, he probably is. But we don’t do that here. You can come in. You can go on birth control. But we don’t do the termination, so you’d have to do that on your own.

CALLER: Oh, all right. But if I was doing birth control, you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. You called yesterday in Camden. I talked to you yesterday.

CALLER: Oh, okay. I’m sorry.

CLINIC: Everything is confidential at Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#050 – Planned Parenthood in Paterson, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
171 MARKET ST
PATERSON, NJ 7505-1701
973-345-3883

TAPE – 050

CLINIC: Good afternoon, Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering, do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: No? Do you know of anyplace that I could call?

CLINIC: Hold on.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Hillegrand (ph) or either Metropolitan.

CALLER: Well, I — Metropolitan, I guess.

CLINIC: Um-hmm. That’s up in Englewood.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So you can go there and have it done. But they don’t do it here.

CALLER: Okay. Do you have the number for that?

CLINIC: Also Barnet (sp) Clinic does it too.

CALLER: Okay. So you do you not have a phone number?

CLINIC: Barnet is 684-6867.

CALLER: Okay. Can I ask you a question?

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Well, my friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: I don’t know. How old are you?

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 in March.

CLINIC: That — I haven’t heard anything about that. You shouldn’t even — I can’t give you yes; I can’t give you no. Hold on.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Hello? Can I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. I was talking to someone. But I just wanted to ask some questions.

CLINIC: About?

CALLER: Like, I was telling her that my friend told me that I have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Um, hold on.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Hello?

CALLER: Yeah?

CLINIC: Okay. It depends where you go —

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: — if they require to tell your parents or not.

CALLER: Okay. Like, why?

CLINIC: I’m sorry?

CALLER: Why does it matter?

CLINIC: I don’t know. It depends on the rules over the facility you’re going to.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just that I can’t tell my parents at all.

CLINIC: Okay. You know where you can go? You can go to Women’s Health in Barnet Hospital.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And they refer you to a doctor from there. Or you can go — you can go to Metropolitan in Hackensack.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And I know a doctor, Ramine Cocazello (ph), that does that too.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But you’ll have to pay for anesthesiology, and you have to pay for him too.

CALLER: But they wouldn’t have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay. Because if they found out I was having sex with my boyfriend, they would flip out. They absolutely hate him, because he’s 22. They think he’s too old for me.

CLINIC: Yeah, well it depends on the rules of the facility you go to.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You want the number for Women’s Health in Barnet?

CALLER: Yes, please.

CLINIC: 973-977-6867.

CALLER: 973-977-6867?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Well, you’re sure no one has to know?

CLINIC: Well, you can ask there.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: That depends on the rule. I told you. I don’t know how they work.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it ends up that I’m not pregnant, do you guys do birth control?

CLINIC: Yeah, we do.

CALLER: And you guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody about that either?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Not at all?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Could I call you back?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Jamie.

CALLER: Jamie?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: All right. Thank you.

CLINIC: You’re welcome. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.
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#061 – Planned Parenthood in Camden, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
317 S. BROADWAY
CAMDEN, NJ 8103-1253
856-365-3519

TAPE – 061

RECORDING: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood. To hear this information in Spanish, please press 1. If you know your party’s extension, please enter it now. For pregnancy testing information, press 5. For general information and appointments, including family planing, prenatal and other medical services, press 4.

Please hold while I try that extension.

CLINIC: Reception Desk?

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: No? Do you know who I would talk to?

CLINIC: What you could do is come in here for a pregnancy test, and we do a pregnancy test. And then if it’s positive, we would give you referrals.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, is there anyway that — my friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: I think from the state of New Jersey parental notification isn’t necessary.

CALLER: It’s not?

CLINIC: Not to my knowledge. But, like I said, I’d rather you come in and get a pregnancy test done, and then we would give you a referral and talk to you.

CALLER: Well, they can’t find out at all. Because my boyfriend’s 22 —

CLINIC: Well, we’re not going to call your parents and tell them.

CALLER: Yeah?

CLINIC: No. We don’t do that.

CALLER: Because if they found out —

CLINIC: We’re not going to do that.

CALLER: — they hate him. They think he’s too old for me.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, we’re not going to do that.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So if you want, you can come in Monday or Wednesday morning. Have you ever been to our Camden office?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Have you ever been to any of our offices?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Where do you live?

CALLER: I live in Berlin.

CLINIC: In Berlin?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Do you know where Chesilhurst is?

CALLER: Well, I think my boyfriend does.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, you can go over there tomorrow morning at 10:00.

CALLER: Okay, well —

CLINIC: Oh, wait. No. Never mind, today’s Tuesday. So you can go there next Tuesday at 10:00.

CALLER: Oh, all right.

CLINIC: It’s a walk-in clinic.

CALLER: Do you have to be a certain age for that or anything?

CLINIC: No, honey.

CALLER: Okay. Because I’m going to be 14 in March, so it will be okay?

CLINIC: Are you sure that you’re pregnant?

CALLER: Well, I’ve — I think so, yeah. I had a pregnancy test over the weekend. Like I took one — I got one at the store.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, you can go in there next Tuesday at 10:00, and they’ll do a pregnancy test and give you referrals.

CALLER: Okay. Well, they won’t tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. We don’t do that.

CALLER: Okay. Okay. Well, if like I wasn’t pregnant, would they be able to give me birth control or anything?

CLINIC: We could set you up for an appointment for that, yes.

CALLER: Okay. And they wouldn’t tell anybody about birth control either?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right. Do you want the address where they’re at?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: It’s 1000 Industrial Drive in Chesilhurst.

CALLER: Cheselhurst.

CLINIC: And it’s right off of the White Horse Pike. Do you want directions now, or do you want to call back later?

CALLER: I’ll call back later. I have to talk to my boyfriend. Is it all right if I talk to you later?

CLINIC: I don’t know — well, we’re leaving here around 5:00, so you can call back tomorrow or the next day. My name is Becky.

CALLER: Becky?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All right. Thanks.

CALLER: Thanks.

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#051 – Planned Parenthood in Hackensack, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
575 MAIN ST. #1
HACKENSACK, NJ 7601-5987
201-489-1140

TAPE – 051

CLINIC: Good afternoon, Planned Parenthood. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. Do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t do that. We can refer you, but no, not the procedure here.

CALLER: Okay. Who would you refer me to?

CLINIC: The doctor. You have to see the doctor for the doctor to refer you.

CALLER: Oh. Okay. Do I need like an appointment for that?

CLINIC: Yes. You have to pay for that. It’s based on your income, yes.

CALLER: Okay. Well, can I ask a question then too?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Well, the biggest thing is that my friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can even go through having an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: Well, I didn’t understand what you say.

CALLER: Well, do you guys have to tell my parents if I’m having an abortion?

CLINIC: No, they can — you can come, but they say, no, nothing, because everything is confidential here.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just they can’t find out.

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay. Is there like an age limit or anything?

CLINIC: No. Only you need to make an appointment to see the doctor that also will refer you to someplace.

CALLER: Okay, so —

CLINIC: Okay. You want to make appointment?

CALLER: Well, I —

CLINIC: Or do you want to call again?

CALLER: Well, I just was really wanting to know, like — like the thing is, she also — my friend, she said that you guys have to know about my entire story. The problem is, my parents can’t find out about this because —

CLINIC: No, no, no. They won’t find out.

CALLER: My boyfriend’s 22. And we’re planning to get married, because we love each other. But my parents absolutely hate him, and they think he’s too old for me. And I’m only — I’ll be 14 in March. I don’t understand what the problem is.

CLINIC: Okay. Will be good idea that you come, make appointment. You want to wait for make appointment?

CALLER: Well, no one will find out about it?

CLINIC: You want to make appointment today or you want to call later for that?

CALLER: Well, yeah. I have to call my boyfriend and see.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. Okay.

CALLER: Can I talk to you later?

CLINIC: Oh, yes, of course, anytime.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Oh, you can talk with anybody here, okay?

CALLER: Well —

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: — can I just talk to you later?

CLINIC: I don’t think so. I be leaving now. I don’t think so, that I will be here. But you can just speak with everybody here, okay?

CALLER: Could I call you tomorrow?

CLINIC: Oh, yes, of course.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Dora.

CALLER: Dora?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Okay?

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: Bye bye.
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#062 – Planned Parenthood in Hightstown, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
268 ACADEMY ST
HIGHTSTOWN, NJ 8520-3803
609-448-3439

TAPE – 062

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood?

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Oh. Okay. Well, do you know of any place that does?

CLINIC: Yeah. Let me give you the number.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: 599-4881.

CALLER: 599-4881. Do you know — well, my friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: No?

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Well, the number to the place that I gave you won’t do it (unclear) you’re 14.

CALLER: Why?

CLINIC: It’s just a policy they have.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Where can I go then?

CLINIC: You can call — hold on a second, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

(Pause)

CLINIC: You can call 514-9191.

CALLER: 514-9191?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Okay. Will they have to tell my parents or anything?

CLINIC: I doubt it. You can ask them.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, it’s just they can’t tell my parents at all. Because like my boyfriend’ —

CLINIC: You need to talk to them about it.

CALLER: They can’t —

CLINIC: I don’t know what they’re going to say.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: You need to talk to them.

CALLER: Do you guys do like birth control there or anything?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Okay. Would you have to tell anybody about that?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay. Is it all right if my boyfriend comes and takes me?

CLINIC: And does what?

CALLER: If he takes me there?

CLINIC: I don’t see why that would be a problem.

CALLER: Okay. Well, like, he would pay for it all. Well, he’s got a job because he’s like 22. Is it all right if he brings me and pays for it?

CLINIC: Why would that be a problem?

CALLER: Well, I don’t know. I just don’t want anybody to know.

CLINIC: Well, I mean, it should be fine.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Is it all right if I talk to you later if I had any more questions?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Um —

CALLER: Because I just don’t know who else to talk to.

CLINIC: Just call back. Whoever answers the phone, they can answer questions for you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, you’re nice. And I just want to talk to you.

CLINIC: Just anybody — when you call in, anybody who picks up the phone can answer whatever question you have.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: All right. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#052 – Planned Parenthood in Englewood, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
40 N VAN BRUNT ST
ENGLEWOOD, NJ 7631-2740
201-894-0966

TAPE – 052

CLINIC: Good afternoon, Planned Parenthood. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering, do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: No? Do you know of anyplace I could talk to?

CLINIC: You can look up in the Yellow Pages for that information because we’re not allowed to give that information out.

CALLER: Okay. Well, can I ask a couple of questions?

CLINIC: Okay, sure. I’ll put you on hold for one second, okay?

CALLER: Okay?

CLINIC: Hello?

CALLER: Hi.

CLINIC: Sorry to keep you waiting.

Go ahead. You had a few questions for me?

CALLER: Yeah. Well, my friend told me that you guys have to — my parents have to be told before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: I’m sorry. Say that again.

CALLER: My friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: No. Everything here is confidential.

CALLER: Okay. So nobody would have to know or anything?

CLINIC: No. But we don’t do that here. We don’t do the procedure, the actual procedure, here.

CALLER: Oh. The problem is, I can’t tell my parents, and they can’t find out. My boyfriend’s 22. And we’re planning to get married, but my parents absolutely hate him. They think he’s too old for me. And there’s just no way they can find out that we’re having sex.

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Okay. And are you close by to us? Do you want to come to this clinic —

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: — and be checked?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Okay. Do you want to schedule an appointment for tomorrow? We’re opened tomorrow from 3 to 9.

CALLER: Oh, well, I would have to talk to my boyfriend to see.

CLINIC: You want to call me back with that information?

CALLER: Well, yeah. I got to talk to him, but he doesn’t get off work until like 5:00. So I can’t talk to him until like then. But —

CLINIC: Okay. So what do you want to do? Do you want to schedule an appointment anyway?

CALLER: Yep.

CLINIC: You want to schedule an appointment?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You’ve never been here before?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Where are you located right now?

CALLER: I’m in Morristown.

CLINIC: Morristown?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Okay. You know we’re in Englewood?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: This is the Planned Parenthood of Englewood, New Jersey.

CALLER: Yeah. I just don’t want to go anywhere where anyone will see me.

CLINIC: Okay, no problem.

Okay. And your first name?

CALLER: Is Christine.

CLINIC: Christine. Last name?

CALLER: Smith.

CLINIC: Okay. All right. Hold on one second. Let me get the book so I can write you down, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Okay. So you want to come tomorrow. What time do you want to come in tomorrow?

CALLER: Afternoon, I guess.

CLINIC: After what?

CALLER: In the afternoon.

CLINIC: 5:00 is good?

CALLER: I’d have to call my boyfriend.

CLINIC: 5:45?

CALLER: Well, I’d have to call him and see.

CLINIC: Okay. So I’ll put you down for 5:45. If there is any changes then you call me back.

CALLER: Okay. What was your name?

CLINIC: Seline (sp).

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? So Christine Smith.

CALLER: Well, actually I have another question. If I wasn’t pregnant after you guys like —

CLINIC: We’ll run a pregnancy test on you.

CALLER: Okay. If I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: And you still wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. Everything is confidential.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: A number where I can reach you?

CALLER: Well, I — I don’t know.

CLINIC: A friend’s number or anything where I can reach you in case any — I mean, I’m not going to call you. I’ll wait for you to call me to confirm the appointment on that hour, okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, I’ll just call you back. Is that okay?

CLINIC: That’s fine.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.
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#063 – Planned Parenthood in Flemington, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
14 COURT ST
FLEMINGTON, NJ 8822-1316
908-782-7727

TAPE – 063

CLINIC: Good afternoon, Planned Parenthood. This is Karen.

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: We don’t do them here. We would — if that’s what you’re seeking, we would do an exam, we would tell you how far along the pregnancy, and then we would give you a referral.

CALLER: Okay. Can I ask a few questions?

CLINIC: Sure. Well, my main question is my parents — like, my friend told me that my parents have to know about the abortion before I can have one. Is that true?

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 in March.

CLINIC: So you’re 13 now?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Okay. And how did you become pregnant? A boyfriend or —

CALLER: Uh-huh, yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. We can see you hear without parental permission. But —

CALLER: It’s just not way they can find out. Because they don’t like him because they think he’s too old.

CLINIC: How old is he?

CALLER: He’s 22.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. You may have a problem finding a facility that would be willing to do it because of your age.

CALLER: Why? Just because —

CLINIC: Because you are so young.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: When was your last missed period?

CALLER: Well —

CLINIC: When was your last period?

CALLER: — the last one was like — I’m not really sure how long ago it was. It was like — it was before Christmas. I think it was like probably the first week in December.

CLINIC: Okay. So the pregnancy is pretty new.

CALLER: Yeah, I guess.

CLINIC: Well, do you want to start by — I mean, we’re not going to ask for parental permission. Since you’re only 13, I would prefer if a parent or guardian came with you. Do you have an older sister or an aunt or anyone you can share this information with?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: You have nobody.

CALLER: Um-um.

CLINIC: Okay. So how are you going to get here? Your boyfriend?

CALLER: Uh-huh, yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. You can come in and have an exam.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Have you done a home pregnancy test?

CALLER: Well, yeah. I did one over the weekend. It said it was positive.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, you can come in, and we can do the exam. And we can try and help you find someplace if that’s what you want to do.

CALLER: Okay. And they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I can’t promise you that. We would try and help you find someplace that would keep it confidential.

CALLER: Okay. Because they just can’t find out.

CLINIC: Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. What do you think would happen?

CALLER: Well, I don’t know. I don’t want to think about that. But my parents would be furious.

CLINIC: When are you available to come in?

CALLER: I don’t know. I’d have to talk to my boyfriend to see, but maybe Friday.

CLINIC: Okay. I have some appointments open Friday afternoon if you can come then.

CALLER: Okay. I have to call him and see.

CLINIC: You want to call him and call us back?

CALLER: Well, I guess. If, like — well, my other question is like, do you know if I could get birth control there or anything?

CLINIC: Umm-hmm.

CALLER: Yeah?

CLINIC: We can do birth control. Yeah. You have to deal with this pregnancy first, and then we can put you on birth control.

CALLER: Do you have to tell anybody about the birth control?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: All right. Okay. Let me talk to my boyfriend. Is it all right if I call you back?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Sure. We’ll be here until 5:00. And then if you miss us, the office opens at 9:00 tomorrow morning.

CALLER: Okay. Is it all right to talk to you?

CLINIC: Yeah. You can talk to any of the nurses that answer the phone. I’m not usually here.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Okay? But the supervisor’s name is Jean. You could talk to her. There are a couple of other nurses there. Okay?

CALLER: Is there any way I could talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: Karen.

CALLER: Karen?

CLINIC: Yeah. I won’t be in this office tomorrow though. If you call back before 5:00, I’ll still be here.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But if you call tomorrow, I won’t be here. Then I would say ask for Jean —

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: — because I can tell her what we discussed.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: And she wouldn’t tell anybody either?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All right then.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: We’ll talk to you later.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

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