OFFICE OF DR. BURNS – ABORTION SURGERY CENTER
2453 WILCOX DR.
NORMAN, OK 73069
405-329-8120

TAPE – 835

(Dialing, phone ringing 3x)

CLINIC: Dr. Burns’ office.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: It’s $400, and our limit is 12 weeks in the pregnancy.

CALLER: How do you know how many weeks you are?

CLINIC: Do you know when your last menstrual period was?

CALLER: January 15th.

CLINIC: And it was a normal period for you?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Probably about six to seven right now.

CALLER: Okay. So that would be all right then?

CLINIC: Um-hmm. As long as you only missed one or two periods, you’re fine. But if you miss three periods, you’re too far.

CALLER: The thing is, I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of it all, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No, ma’am. You’ll need to bring a parent with you to sign the consent form.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Yeah. We can’t see anybody under 18 without their parent’s consent.

CALLER: Is there any way not to have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: That’s the only way we could do it, hon.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Because I can’t tell my parents at all. Well, is there anyplace else I could go?

CLINIC: Not that I’m aware of. Yeah. The law requires that anybody under 18, any kind of medical attention needs to have a parent’s consent.

CALLER: So what should I do then?

CLINIC: I would talk to my mother (chuckle).

CALLER: But I can’t talk to her. I mean, she doesn’t ever listen to me. Both my parents don’t ever understand anything.

CLINIC: Are you in school?

CALLER: Well, I’m homeschooled.

CLINIC: You’re homeschooled?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: What about calling Planned Parenthood and maybe talking to a counselor there?

CALLER: Would they have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: Yeah. That’s what I’m saying. They could maybe help you talk to your parents.

CALLER: Oh. I don’t know.

Well, I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Would I be able to get a pregnancy test there just to make sure I am before I talk to them.

CLINIC: Yeah. You could come here for a test or you can go to Planned Parenthood or the Health Department.

CALLER: How much does it cost if I go to you guys?

CLINIC: We charge $10 for a test.

CALLER: Okay. But you wouldn’t have to tell anybody if I was getting a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No, uh-uh.

CALLER: Well, if turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: No, we actually don’t, unless you’re a patient, unless we see you; then we’ll give you some birth control. But like I was saying, Planned Parenthood or the Health Department would help you with that. If you weren’t pregnant, then they could get you started on birth control pills so you don’t get pregnant.

CALLER: But would they have to tell anyone if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: No. I would start with Planned Parenthood if I were you. Because they can help you out. At least you’ll have somebody to talk to. The Health Department will just do the test and that’s it. But I would go to Planned Parenthood, and they can help you.

CALLER: Okay. If I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Wendy.

CALLER: Okay. All right.

CLINIC: All righty, hon.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
2100B W LINDSEY ST
NORMAN, OK 73069-4108
405-360-1556

TAPE – 368

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This Shelley (sp). May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Do you know of anybody that would?

CLINIC: Yes, I can give you a number to call. His name is Dr. Burns.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on just a second. The number is 329-8120.

CALLER: My friend actually told me that since I’ll be 14 in March that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever, and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: That will be something that Dr. Burns would have to decide. We don’t work out of his office, so you would probably have to ask his office about that.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test to see?

CLINIC: Yes. You can do that, walk-in and it’s $8.

CALLER: Would you guys have to tell anybody that I was there for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No (chuckle).

CALLER: I would really like my boyfriend to be there. Is that okay?

CLINIC: That would be fine.

CALLER: And nobody would ask anything about us, and they wouldn’t have to know about us at all?

CLINIC: Let me just ask you this? Are you emancipated?

CALLER: No. What is that?

CLINIC: Like certified as an adult.

CALLER: Not that I know of.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. Hold on for just a second.

CALLER: All right.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Hi.

CALLER: Hi.

CLINIC: Yeah, you can just walk in. You don’t need an appointment. Now you would need to be at least 14 days pregnant. Now think back at the time that you’re worried about that you could have gotten pregnant. Has that been at least 14 days ago?

CALLER: I think so. But I just haven’t had had a period since December 14th, so I don’t know.

CLINIC: And have you ever missed your periods before?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: And did you have unprotected intercourse, sex?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: How about in January?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Do you use any type of birth control?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: So yeah, you can go ahead and come on in. You need to fill out some paperwork. You don’t need an appointment. And we’re open until 5 tonight. Tomorrow we’ll be open until 5. We close between 12:30 and 1 for lunch.

CALLER: Okay. So I could come in there for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Yeah. They’re $8.

CALLER: And nobody has to know about anything?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay. So it’s all right if my boyfriend’s there with me and everything?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Casey.

CALLER: Oh, okay. If I came in for a pregnancy and it said that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Would you guys have to tell anybody that I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No. No, not at all.

CALLER: Okay. Well, would it be all right if my boyfriend picked them up? Because I can’t drive to get there.

CLINIC: You’ll need to come in for the visit so that you can get the prescription for the meds prescribed to you. But then after that, anybody can pick them up for you that you give permission to.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All righty?

CALLER: What was that other lady talking about, about being emancipated?

CLINIC: Well, I’ll have you sign some paperwork so that will take care of that.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: All right. Thank you.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

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