NATIONAL HEALTH CARE
7405 N UNIVERSITY ST.
PEORIA, IL 61614
309-691-9073

TAPE – 758

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: National Health Care. This is Pam. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, ma’am, we do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: Well, under 12 weeks it’s $350, and then 12 to 14 weeks, it’s 450.

CALLER: Well, how do you know how many weeks you are?

CLINIC: We go by the first day of your last normal period when we make your appointment, but then we do a sonogram when you come in. When was the first day of your last normal period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, you’re probably not that far along. Let me look here. We’re making appointments right now for next Wednesday, which is the 13th. And you’d be approximately nine weeks, so it would be 350. Even if you’d wait until the 20th or 21st, you’re still at that 350.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Now do you know of your blood type is negative?

CALLER: Well, I don’t know.

CLINIC: Well, we tell you to bring an extra $30, because if your blood type is negative — and we do that typing here — then it’s $30 extra for something called Rhogam shot.

CALLER: Okay. Well, the thing is, I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Well, first of all, you don’t have to have parents’ consent in Illinois, so that’s no problem. Only you have to sign the papers.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: And everything is confidential, hon.

CALLER: Oh, good. So it’s just me and my boyfriend were talking about all this, and we didn’t want anyone to know about us. But he said he was going to pay cash for everything.

CLINIC: Yeah, you have to pay cash anyway, cash or money order. So whenever you’re ready to make the appointment, just give us a call.

CALLER: Well, if he was paying for everything, would he have to sign any papers or fill out any forms?

CLINIC: No, ma’am. You only fill out the forms. And the receipt is made out to you because you’re the patient.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Would you guys do that before?

CLINIC: No. You need to get a pregnancy test done first. Just do an at-home test or whatever.

CALLER: Are those usually right though?

CLINIC: Yeah, pretty much. And then once you get that result, then you give us a call and we’ll set up an appointment.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: No, we don’t do long-term care. We just give you one pack of pills after you leave to regulate the period. You have to go to Planned Parenthood or something to get the birth control pill.

CALLER: Would they have to tell if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: I don’t know. What city do you live in?

CALLER: I live in Farmington.

CLINIC: So you’d go to what, Peoria’s?

CALLER: I think so, yeah.

CLINIC: Peoria Planned Parenthood I meant.

CALLER: Yeah, I think so.

CLINIC: Call them and ask them. I don’t think they do.

CALLER: Okay. How much should I bring if I was getting an abortion?

CLINIC: How much what?

CALLER: How much money should I bring if I was getting an abortion?

CLINIC: 380.

CALLER: Okay. And an additional $30?

CLINIC: No, no. It’s 350 for the procedure and $30 extra for a Rhogam shot. So it would be 380 or 350. But we tell you to bring 380 just in case your blood type’s negative, okay?

CALLER: Would my boyfriend be able to come in with me?

CLINIC: He can go through the counseling with you but not through the procedure. You’re with the doctor and the nurse then.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: And you’re sure nobody would have to know about anything?

CLINIC: Only if you tell somebody?

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: A lot of patients get angry at us, because when they make their appointment they forget what time it is. And they’ll call us, and we can’t even tell them because we don’t know that’s them. We’re here to protect you and take good care of you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thank you.

CLINIC: You’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
705 NE JEFFERSON AVE
PEORIA, IL 61603-3843
309-673-6911

TAPE – 338

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

RECORDING: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood. You may enter your party’s extension at anytime. If you are on a rotary phone, stay on the line. For teen pregnancy testing and all counseling, press 1 (dial button pressed).

One moment please.

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RECORDING: Our counseling staff is currently busy. You may at the tone leave a message. We cannot promise when your call will be returned. If you’d like to hold for our operator, dial zero (dial button pressed).

Thank you. One moment please.

(Pause)

One moment please.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Leandra (sp).

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we don’t. I can give you a number that do.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: 691-9073.

CALLER: Okay. Well, could I ask you a quick question?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: My friend told me that since I’ll be 14 in March that you guys have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he take care of that, and we don’t have to tell my parents? Because I don’t know what would happen if they found out.

CLINIC: Tell your parents what?

CALLER: That I was going to get an abortion.

CLINIC: Oh. We don’t say anything. Everything here is confidential. I mean, as far as outside, that’s on you. But we keep everything here confidential.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you guys have to tell anybody about my boyfriend or anything?

CLINIC: Uh-uh. We don’t tell anybody nothing here. I mean, just you. Unless you give us permission, we tell no one nothing.

CALLER: Well, I don’t want anybody to know.

CLINIC: We don’t tell anyone anyway.

CALLER: I wasn’t real sure if I was pregnant. I’m just scared because my last period was like the 14th of December, so I don’t know. I’m just really scared.

CLINIC: Okay. Have you taken a pregnancy test?

CALLER: Ho.

CLINIC: Did you want to set one up?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Hold on, okay?

(Pause)

CLINIC: Someone will be right with you. I’m gonna make an appointment with our teen and counseling department. So she’ll be right with you, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Hold on.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Andrea. Can I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. I was wanting to make an appointment for a pregnancy test.

CLINIC: Okay. Are you a patient with us?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Do you want to go through education and counseling? Is this for a free one?

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend says that I just need to get an abortion. And if I’m not pregnant that I need to get on birth control.

CLINIC: Okay. What do you want to do?

CALLER: Well, I’m just scared. I don’t know.

CLINIC: Okay. I’m going to put you with education, and they’ll make an appointment, okay? Can I put you on hold for a second?

CALLER: Yeah.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Hi. This is Diane in education and counseling. I appreciate your holding.

CALLER: Hi.

CLINIC: HI.

CALLER: Yeah. Well, I was wanting to get an abortion, and they sent me to you.

CLINIC: Okay. All right. I see. I thought you needed a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Well, I do. I haven’t had one yet.

CLINIC: Oh, all right.

CALLER: I’m just really scared because I haven’t had my period since December 14th. And I don’t know what to do. And my friend told me that if I was pregnant — I’ll be 14 in March, and she said that you guys would have to tell my parents I’m getting an abortion.

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he take care of it, and you won’t have to tell anybody anything?

CLINIC: Well, it’s not because your boyfriend’s 22. If your boyfriend’s 22, actually your parents could sue him.

CALLER: Why?

CLINIC: Because it’s called statutory rape. It’s assumed.

CALLER: Well, he’s not raping me. We’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Okay. I’m sorry I threw that in there. I’m just saying — all right. Let’s both calm down. Your boyfriend being that age is more of a problem for you as far as the law goes than a help, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But you yourself, because you are over 12, can do this. You do not need parental permission. In a lot of states around us they do require parental permission, but not here. Okay? (Deep sign). So you need to come in and get a pregnancy test, and then we can tell you all your options. And if you know you want an abortion, we can explain all that, give you the brochure of the people in town who do that.

CALLER: Well, I just can’t have this baby. Because he already has a one-year-old with his ex-wife. They’re separated, but that’s why I can’t — I mean, we have to have the abortion.

CLINIC: Well, it’s up to you. I mean, I think you’re awfully young to have a child too. So there’s many reasons, right?

CALLER: Yeah, okay.

CLINIC: Hopefully you’re going to finish school. Are you in school?

CALLER: Yeah, I’m homeschooled.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. So your parents don’t have any idea that you’re pregnant?

CALLER: No. They don’t even know that I’m having sex. They know him, but they just don’t like him because they think he’s too old for me.

CLINIC: Right. And they’re afraid you might be having sex probably.

CALLER: Well, I don’t know. They just —

CLINIC: And then get pregnant. He didn’t use a condom, or did the condom break or what?

CALLER: No. We didn’t have a condom or anything.

CLINIC: So he certainly (unclear) — and I think you are too, actually know that’s the way a pregnancy happens, right?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: All right. Well, you’re in a tough spot. And I don’t mean to put any extra pressure on you. We need to get you in and have a pregnancy test. And we’ll tell you how to take care of things.

CALLER: Okay. Well, he just doesn’t want anybody to know about this.

CLINIC: It’s all completely confidential.

CALLER: Well, if I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control so that this doesn’t have to happen again?

CLINIC: Since you wouldn’t testify against him there’s nothing that could happen probably legally, unless you’re pregnant. And then pregnancy would be a proof of.

CALLER: So could I get birth control?

CLINIC: Not today, but yes. If you’re pregnant — that seems to be your biggest concern. You’re pretty sure you are it sounds like.

CALLER: Well, I’m not sure. I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet.

CLINIC: Have you missed a period by a week or more?

CALLER: Well, my last period was December 14th, so that’s why we’re scared.

CLINIC: Your last period was December 14th? So neither of you intended a pregnancy?

CALLER: Well, no.

CLINIC: Well, I’m just checking because not using contraception and having sex is usually an indication of wanting to get pregnant. You know what I mean?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: So you guys just kind of (unclear) your heads about that?

CALLER: Well, I don’t know. We in love, and we’re going to get married. But he’s got to get through his ex — he’s got to divorce his ex-wife completely first.

CLINIC: Yeah, that’s right. And hopefully you’re going to get through school.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Which will help you raise a child when you do decide you want to have a child.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: So we have some openings this late afternoon or evening. What time of day is good for you?

CALLER: Well, I’ve got to call him and see.

CLINIC: He would bring you in?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Is that okay? Because I wanted him there with me. Is that okay if he’s there?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: What did you mean about pregnancy as proof?

CLINIC: Proof of having sex.

CALLER: Well, yeah. Okay.

CLINIC: I mean, you’d like him in there to talk about what needs to be done; is that right?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: It does put us in a little awkward position because we have been asked to report — actually we’re not — it’s something we’re kind of on the borderline whether we’re suppose to do anything about or not. Because there are legislators and others there concerned, not that we necessarily think it’s our job to decide that. But if we have somebody under 17 coming in with somebody over 18, then there is come concern.

CALLER: Well, are you going to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. But it would help us to decide — just don’t talk about his age when you come in. I guess I would say that.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And if you could come in by yourself, it might be best.

CALLER: Oh. So it would be better if he wasn’t here?

CLINIC: Usually I would say it’s better if he is there. Maybe I can put a note to the counselor you’re going to see and tell her, don’t ask. Don’t ask, don’t tell I guess is sort of unfortunately where we have to be about this.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So you’ve got to talk to him about the time, you said.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Does he work?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: What time does he work?

CALLER: He works from 8 to 5.

CLINIC: All right. We have a 5:15 or a 6.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Just write you down for 6 maybe?

CALLER: Well, I’d have to check and make sure that’s enough time to get there from getting off work.

CLINIC: Where does he work?

CALLER: He works in construction with my dad.

CLINIC: Oh, wow.

CALLER: He really doesn’t have like a specific place.

CLINIC: Well, how far is it from your house to Peoria?

CALLER: I’m not really sure. It’s probably like 30 minutes or so.

CLINIC: All right. Well, my recommendation would be that we pencil you in for the 6:00 appointment because it’s the latest we have. And we don’t have it everyday of the week. We only have it two days a week. So tomorrow for instance our last appointment is at 3:15. So this is your best chance. And you can always call and cancel if it doesn’t work out.

CALLER: Let me talk to him and call you back. Is that okay?

CLINIC: You don’t want me to pencil you in?

CALLER: Well, I need to call him and see exactly when.

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right. And my extension is — well, just do 205.

CALLER: Is that you?

CLINIC: It’s whoever has our pregnancy test scheduling book. And I’m Diane though. You can ask for me.

CALLER: What was your name again?

CLINIC: Diane.

CALLER: All right. Okay.

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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