1604 2ND AVE
COUNCIL BLUFFS, IA 51501-3801
TAPE – 189
(dialing sounds) (ringing 3X)
CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Patty speaking. May I help you?
CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?
CLINIC: Yes, we do.
CALLER: Okay. How much does that cost?
CLINIC: $325 cash, Mastercard or Visa. And then if your blood type is negative, then it costs another $50.
CALLER: Okay. Well, my friend actually told me that you have to be a specific age. Like I’ll be 14 in March. Is that all right?
CLINIC: You’d either need to have your family or your parent, one of your parents.
CALLER: Oh. Is there any way not to do that? Because like, the problem is, I can’t tell my parents because — well, my boyfriend’s 22. And we’re planning on getting married, but they hate him because they think he’s too old for me.
CLINIC: Well, honey, he is. What’s a 22-year-old man doing with a 14-year-old girl?
CALLER: Well, we’re in love. We’re going to get married.
CLINIC: Why — okay. (laughs) You know what that would be like? That would — a 22-year-old man is much too old. He’s much more mature. He’s had way too much experience to be with a 14-year-old. Why isn’t he with a 22-year-old woman?
CALLER: Because we’re in love. I mean, I don’t — I don’t understand. But –
CLINIC: Okay. Yeah, he is too old. But we can’t get into that. And besides, that is rape. That’s statutory rape.
CALLER: What? What do you mean? I don’t understand. We’re in love. How is that — that –
CLINIC: By the law he cannot have sex with you, hon. It’s rape.
CALLER: But we’re in love. We’re going to get married. I don’t –
CLINIC: It doesn’t matter. You’re 14 and he’s 22. That’s rape.
CALLER: Could he get in trouble or anything?
CLINIC: Yes. He could go to prison.
CALLER: Well, what am I going to do? What are you — I don’t. What do I do?
CLINIC: Umm. I — you know, I don’t know. You can maybe get a judicial bypass.
CALLER: Okay. What’s that?
CLINIC: You’d have to talk to a lawyer.
CLINIC: And go in front of a judge.
CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does that cost?
CLINIC: That’s free.
CALLER: And I don’t — I have to get a lawyer, or –
CLINIC: No. Planned Parenthood will get the lawyer for you. You’d go in front of a judge with the lawyer, and the judge would talk to you. If he thought that you were mature enough, then he would go ahead and let you get the termination without your parents knowing it.
CALLER: But they wouldn’t have to say anything like about my boyfriend or anything?
CLINIC: You know, I don’t know. I don’t know what he’ll ask you or what he’ll — you know, I’ve never gone through one so I don’t know what he’d ask.
CALLER: Oh. What if the judge says no? What do I do then?
CLINIC: Then you’re — you just have to have it.
CLINIC: The baby. You can’t get a termination.
CALLER: But then my parents will find out.
CLINIC: Well, yeah.
CALLER: Okay. Well, like, what would I do? I don’t know what to do.
CLINIC: What do you mean you don’t know what to do?
CALLER: Well, if my parents find out I would get in — I don’t even know what they would do.
CALLER: And I don’t want my boyfriend to go to prison.
CLINIC: Well, he knows — but he knows this. He knows that he’s, he’s committing statutory rape.
CALLER: But he, he never said anything.
CLINIC: Well, honey, that’s because he’s 22, and he just wants to have a young girl and to sleep with.
CALLER: But we’re in love. I don’t — I mean, he’s, he’s a nice guy. I don’t understand what you mean.
CLINIC: Because he’s 22 years old.
CALLER: But –
CLINIC: And you’re 14. That would be like you dating an 8-year-old. Could you love an 8-year-old?
CALLER: Well –
CLINIC: And have intercourse with an 8-year-old?
CALLER: Well, no, but –
CLINIC: Okay. And what kind of company would an 8-year-old be with you, for you? Wouldn’t you want to be with somebody your own age that’s 14?
CALLER: I don’t –
CLINIC: He’s 22. He can go out to the bars, he can drink, he can — you know, he’s got a driver’s license. You’re a child. He’s a man. He’s a 22-year-old man. You guys have nothing in common.
CALLER: Well, can we come in and talk to you?
CLINIC: No. I’m a mandatory reporter, and I’d have to report you, report it as a rape.
CLINIC: My best — I mean, if I was you, and I know you’re probably in love because you’re 14, but you can be in love — you’ll probably in love six times in your lifetime if not 10. (laughs) It just happens. You know? Because you’re 14. And I know you think you know that you’re madly in love and there will never be another man out there for you, but it’s not — there will be.
CLINIC: You know?
CALLER: Well, is it okay if like he brings me in for like a pregnancy test because I don’t know how else I would get there.
CLINIC: How do you know — I mean, you haven’t had a pregnancy test so you don’t know if you’re pregnant?
CALLER: No. I did a home pregnancy test, but I don’t know if it’s –
CLINIC: And that showed positive?
CLINIC: Well, then you probably are.
CALLER: Oh. They’re like –
CALLER: I just wanted to make sure that someone else — like I just don’t know if I did it right.
CLINIC: Okay. It’s really, really hard to get a false positive pregnancy test.
CALLER: Oh. So –
CALLER: But you guys wouldn’t be able to do that, or –
CLINIC: We could go ahead with a pregnancy test. That costs $10 cash.
CLINIC: But I wouldn’t suggest him bring you in. I surely wouldn’t suggest that you tell anybody that he’s 22 because like I say we’re mandatory reporters.
CLINIC: That’s sexually abused and statutory rape, and I would have to call the police.
CLINIC: And report it.
CALLER: Well, if I had a pregnancy test would you have to tell anybody about that?
CALLER: No? Okay. Well, like if, say like after the pregnancy test there and it was negative, or whatever, do you guys do birth control?
CLINIC: Yes, we do.
CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about that?
CLINIC: Just don’t come in here and tell us that you’re with a 22-year-old man.
CALLER: All right.
CLINIC: Because once you do that, then, you know all bets are off. We have to turn that in.
CLINIC: Think about what I’m telling you. Okay?
CALLER: Oh. All right.
CLINIC: All right? Because like I said, you’re going to fall in love a million times in your lifetime. And, you know, and there’s something wrong with him being 22 years old that wants to be with a 14-year-old girl.
CLINIC: All right?
CALLER: And your name was Patty?
CALLER: All right. Okay.
CLINIC: All righty.
CLINIC: Bye bye.