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#845 – Planned Parenthood in Glenwood Springs, CO

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
410 20TH ST. #203
GLENWOOD SPRINGS, CO 81601
970 / 945-8503

TAPE – 845

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Good afternoon, Planned Medical (?). How may I direct your call?

CALLER: I was trying to talk to Barb.

CLINIC: One moment.

(Phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Good afternoon. This is Barbara. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was talking to Theresa (sp) at the Planned Parenthood, and I was wanting to get an abortion.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: She said to talk to you.

CLINIC: Right. Can you tell me when the first day of your last normal period was?

CALLER: January 15th.

CLINIC: We can do a two-day surgical procedure. The first day the doctor goes over your health history with you, he does a brief physical exam, and then we insert in a little stick of seaweed that’s called a laminaria (sp). We put that into your cervix. We leave that in overnight and then dilate your cervix by absorbing moisture. And then we have you come back the next morning, and we do a suction procedure.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: The cost is $375. And we do expect that to be paid in a cash payment on the first appointment day.

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend said he would pay for everything in cash. The thing is I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it then?

CLINIC: We don’t have to tell your parents even it he doesn’t come in.

CALLER: Okay. So he’s old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Right.

CALLER: It’s just we talked about it, and he we don’t want to want anyone to know about us. So would he have to sign any forms if he’s paying?

CLINIC: Well, there is a consent form that you would have to sign, and we would probably have him sign as a witness. But all of our records are confidential.

CALLER: Could somebody else be the witness then?

CLINIC: Certainly.

CALLER: Would you guys do a pregnancy test beforehand? Because I haven’t had one yet.

CLINIC: You haven’t done one?

CALLER: No. I just haven’t had my period for a while, and we’re just really scared.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, the first thing I would do is buy a home pregnancy test.

CALLER: Are those usually right?

CLINIC: They’re very accurate.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I come to you guys and get some birth control just so that we don’t have to worry about this?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: Okay. How much does that cost?

CLINIC: Well, a new patient visit, I’m not exactly sure. It would depend on lab work and stuff if you decided to do any of that. And you probably should need a pap smear. But I don’t deal with any of the financial stuff, so I can’t tell you exactly how much that is. I certainly can transfer you to the cashier, and she can give you an idea of what the cost would be.

CALLER: Well, once I get birth control — I can’t drive — would my boyfriend be able to pick up the pills?

CLINIC: Probably.

CALLER: Okay. And you guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody that I was on birth control right?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: So you’re sure nobody would have to tell my parents about anybody?

CLINIC: Not as far as I know.

CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody at all?

CLINIC: All of our records are confidential. Without your consent, we can’t tell anybody anything.

CALLER: All right. Okay. That’s just my main concern.

CLINIC: Now it might be less expensive for you to go to Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: And their records are also confidential.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Okay. Well, could I call you back to set up the appointment?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: I need to call my boyfriend to see when he can — what days are you guys open?

CLINIC: Well, right now the first appointment that I have available would be Tuesday and Wednesday, the 19th and 20th.

CALLER: Okay. Would that be enough time?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, let me call my boyfriend and call you back. Is that all right?

CLINIC: Okay. Yeah. Thank you.

CALLER: Thanks. Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

***END***

#809 – Planned Parenthood Of The Rocky Mountians in Denver, CO

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF THE ROCKY MOUNTIANS
2030 E 20TH AVE.
DENVER, CO 80205
303 / 321-2458

TAPE – 809

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood Services Corporation. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: Well, it depends on the length of the pregnancy. Do you know the first day of your last normal period?

CALLER: It was January 3rd.

CLINIC: January 3rd was the first day?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. So that would put you just about nine weeks. Under 12 weeks, the fee is either 355 — that’s for oral medication. What we give is valium and vikaden (ph) — or 425, we give what’s call the IV sedation.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Those are the prices.

CALLER: The thing is, I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: You’re 13 years old right now?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: No. Hold on just a second, hon.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: What we would like to do to get you in here to kind of see where you’re at in terms of — there’s no such thing as parental notification, but we can kind of just figure out what’s going on with your situation and the fee and all that kind of stuff, and to explain what happens during an abortion and all that.

CALLER: Me and my boyfriend were talking about all this. And he said he would pay cash for everything. But we don’t want anyone to know about us. Would he have to fill out any forms or sign anything if he was paying for it?

CLINIC: Yeah, sure. Let me find out for you. Hold on.

(Short pause)

CLINIC: Appointments for you and all your information would be confidential.

CALLER: Okay. So my boyfriend wouldn’t have to sign anything?

CLINIC: No, he doesn’t sign anything. It doesn’t have anything to do with him.

CALLER: So would you guys do a pregnancy test beforehand to make sure? Because I haven’t had one yet.

CLINIC: Well, before we make an appointment what you need to do is take a pregnancy test first, and then call me back.

CALLER: Do I come in there for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No, you can take one at home.

CALLER: Oh. Are those usually right though?

CLINIC: Yes, they’re very accurate. That’s the same test that we give here.

CALLER: Oh. Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys? It’s just we don’t want to have to go through all this anymore.

CLINIC: Right. Not through us, but there’s a contraceptive clinic in Denver that could put you on some sort of birth control pill or some other sort of birth control.

CALLER: Would they have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. There’s no consent. You can get birth control without telling your parents.

CALLER: Well, I don’t drive yet. Would my boyfriend be able to pick up the birth control pills?

CLINIC: I think when you go in there what they can do is sign a consent form. And you get to put a list of people who it’s okay for you to have pick up your pills for you. So you can put whomever you’d like on that.

CALLER: Well, if I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. My name is Danielle.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: So why don’t you give me a call back. And then if you need any other sort of information — we offer all different kind of services here — you just call, okay?

CALLER: Okay. And you’re sure nobody has to know about anything?

CLINIC: In terms of services for you?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: All of our patients are given confidentiality. Right now there’s no state laws for parental consent in terms of that.

CALLER: And so my boyfriend can bring me, and no one would have to know about anything, or no one would have to ask about him?

CLINIC: About him?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: Hold on a second while I get this phone call.

(Short pause)

CLINIC: Thanks for holding. Have you been helped?

CALLER: I was talking to Danielle.

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on.

(Short pause)

CLINIC: This is Cheryl. Danielle had to take another call. But she did fill me in that you had some concerns about confidentiality.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: I’m the center director here. How can I help you?

CALLER: Well, I just don’t want anyone to know about me and my boyfriend. My friend said that since I’m going to be 14 later on this month that my parents have to know about all this. But my boyfriend’s 22, and he said that he would take care of everything. So would that be all right and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Well, here’s the circumstance, that we’re required by law. Because, obviously, there’s more than a five-year difference and the person that you became pregnant with. Because of that we’re required to report that to Social Services.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: That’s a requirement.

CALLER: But I wasn’t really sure if I am pregnant.

CLINIC: If you’re not sure —

CALLER: And just haven’t had my period since January 3rd.

CLINIC: Have you had a pregnancy test done?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: That’s the first order of business, is for you to get a pregnancy test done. In the meanwhile, you want to make sure that you’re using birth control. Does your boyfriend, who is older than you — is this by choice that you’re having sex with him?

CALLER: Yeah. We’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Sure. But you understand that the government or the Social Services does require that we report that because they consider that — because you’re a teen and he’s an adult.

CALLER: Well, what can happen?

CLINIC: I don’t know what Social Services does once we report that. But that’s entirely up to you if you want to be seen here. But we’re required to do that. I can give you referrals of other places if you’re interested. But the first order of business for you is to really have a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Yeah. Well, if I didn’t tell anybody about him, would that be all right, and you wouldn’t have to say anything then?

CLINIC: Well, probably not being truthful is going to be a problem, but that’s up to you to decide what it is that you want to do. I wouldn’t make any recommendations to you on that score.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But let me give you some other providers too that might be helpful. First you want to give yourself a pregnancy test.

Mayfair is in Aurora. And that’s 303-696-9761. That’s another office. Dr. Bernstein, and that’s 303-399-6120.

CALLER: What was that last one?

CLINIC: 399-6120.

CALLER: Okay? So if I don’t tell them anything, that would be better?

CLINIC: That wouldn’t be an advice that I would give you.

CALLER: Okay. But if I tell them, then they would have to tell people?

CLINIC: We’re required by law to do so.

CALLER: Are they required by law too?

CLINIC: It’s a law that everybody’s required.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? But the first order of business is you take a pregnancy test and make sure you’re using birth control, okay?

CALLER: Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I come to you guys to get birth control?

CLINIC: We can give you a clinic that — because we just provide abortion services here. But what you can do is if you go to one our locations, they should be able to give birth control to you.

CALLER: And they wouldn’t have to tell anybody about anything if I was getting birth control?

CLINIC: Again, what I would say is, you obviously need to be truthful on your medical history. So what’s important is that you get taken care of, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So at this point, find out if you’re pregnant. If you aren’t, you can call one of the other centers to get on some birth control, okay?

CALLER: Okay. All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

***END***

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#727 – Grand Junction Women’s Clinic in Grand Junction, CO

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GRAND JUNCTION WOMEN’S CLINIC
740 HORIZON COURT
GRAND JUNCTION, CO 81506
970 / 241-1943

TAPE – 727

(Dialing, phone ringing 4x)

CLINIC: (Unclear) Women’s Clinic. This is Robin. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: We do.

CALLER: How much does that cost?

CLINIC: It depends on how far along you are. From 6 to 12 weeks if $450.

CALLER: How do you know how far along you are?

CLINIC: When was the first day of your last menstrual period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: January 3rd?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. Let’s see. (Pause) You’re about nine weeks.

CALLER: Okay. So I’m in that first group then?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Okay. And much did you say that was?

CLINIC: Four hundred and fifty dollars.

CALLER: The thing is I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No, we won’t have to — no, we won’t tell your parents. Everything’s confidential here, unless it’s an emergency. Then we would have to notify your parents.

CALLER: Oh, okay. We were talking about all this, and he said he would pay cash for everything. But we don’t want anybody to know about us. If he was paying for everything, would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: Probably just the receipt.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: That’s about it. Everything is strictly confidential. In the state of Colorado we do not have to notify the parents unless it’s a medical emergency, if something were to happen and you had to go to the emergency room.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just that we don’t want anybody to know at all.

CLINIC: Yeah. Do you want to go ahead and make an appointment or do you want to go ahead and talk about it some more with your boyfriend?

CALLER: Well, I’d have to call him and see. I just haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Do you guys do those there?

CLINIC: We do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: It’s free.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Okay. But if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Have you had a pap smear yet?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Okay. You would have to just get a pap smear for $30, and then we can give you birth control.

CALLER: Would anybody have to know if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No. Everything is confidential here.

CALLER: So nobody has to know about my boyfriend?

CLINIC: No, nobody has to know, only the staff here.

CALLER: Okay. All right. And your name was Robin?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: When do you normally do the pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Monday through Friday.

CALLER: What time?

CLINIC: 9 to 5.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: I’m sorry, 9 to 4.

CALLER: When do you normally do the abortions?

CLINIC: Thursday through Saturday.

CALLER: So it would be best to come in on Thursday?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Well, what time do you normally do them on Thursday?

CLINIC: We would have to schedule an appointment. And our next availability is not until I believe the 15th of March.

CALLER: Would that be too late?

CLINIC: I’m sorry. When was your first day of your last menstrual period again?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: No, you’ll be about 10 weeks.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So let me tell my boyfriend and call you back. Is that all right?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Thank you.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

***END***

#728 – Boulder Abortion Clinic – Dr. Hearns in Boulder, CO

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BOULDER ABORTION CLINIC – DR. HEARNS
1130 ALPINE AVE.
BOULDER, CO 80304
303 / 447-1361

TAPE – 728

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Good afternoon, Dr. Hearn’s (sp) office. How can I help you?

CALLER: Are you there?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Okay. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: Our fee is dependent on how far along you are in your pregnancy. Do you know?

CALLER: Not really. I just haven’t had my period since January 3rd.

CLINIC: Did you have one on January 3rd?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: You had a normal period January 3rd?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Was it a full cycle?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. The first day would have been January 3rd?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: It would be a first trimester procedure, and the fee would be $1,200.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: It would be a two-day outpatient process.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Do you want to schedule an appointment?

CALLER: Well, the thing is I’m going to be 14 on the 19th of this month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Well, are you in school?

CALLER: Well, I’m homeschooled.

CLINIC: And what are you going to tell your parents what you’re doing those two days?

CALLER: Well, I just go out of town a lot and visit my other friends.

CLINIC: And where do you live?

CALLER: I live in Lafayette.

CLINIC: In Lafayette? Okay. That would be up to Dr. Hearn. I could have him call you. What’s your name?

CALLER: Well, it’s Lisa. But I can’t have him call me. I’m at my friend’s house right now.

CLINIC: So there’s not a number he can reach you?

CALLER: No. Well, boyfriend was going to get a cell phone number, but he just got it, and I don’t know what the number is yet. Can I give you that?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: So I would have to call him to see.

CLINIC: You don’t know what the number is?

CALLER: No, he just got it.

CLINIC: Okay. Can you hold for a second?

CALLER: Sure.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Lisa. That’s okay. Let me go ahead and schedule that for you.

CALLER: Well, I’ve got to find out when my boyfriend can bring me.

CLINIC: It would be either tomorrow and Thursday.

CALLER: Okay. What time?

CLINIC: Well, I need to schedule an appointment. It takes about 10 or 15 minutes to schedule the appointment. So whenever you figure out when he can bring you, it would be on a Wednesday and Thursday. You’re going to be here at the office for about four to five hours both days.

CALLER: Okay. So could it be next week?

CLINIC: It could be next week. Next week would be the 13th and 14th on Wednesday and Thursday? So when you find out when he can bring you, call me back and we’ll schedule an appointment for you.

CALLER: Okay. Could I go home in between though?

CLINIC: Pardon me?

CALLER: Could I go home in between the two days?

CLINIC: Oh, yeah. To Lafayette?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Yeah. Lisa, what’s your last name?

CALLER: It’s Carter.

CLINIC: Carter?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Okay. I will just hear from you when you decide. And just tell your boyfriend that it’s $1,200. We take cash and credit cards, Master Card, Visa, Discover.

CALLER: Yeah, we were talking about all this, and he said that he would pay for everything in cash. But we don’t want anybody to know about us. If he was paying, would he have to sign anything or fill out any forms?

CLINIC: No. But if he wants to come in with you, you both have to show a photo i.d., like a drivers license.

CALLER: Oh. Well, I don’t drive. I don’t have a drivers license.

CLINIC: Do you have a student i.d.?

CALLER: Well, I’m homeschooled.

CLINIC: Okay. Somebody is going to have to come in with you who has a photo i.d. who can sign something that says that you are who you are. Can you get a hold of a birth certificate or anything like that?

CALLER: Yeah. But it doesn’t have a picture of me.

CLINIC: Do you have your birth certificate?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: This week you need to take your birth certificate to the place where you get a drivers license and tell them that you want a color auto i.d. And they’ll just give you a photo i.d. Tell your boyfriend that he needs to take you to the Department of Motor Vehicles, and you need to wait in line and get a photo i.d. with your birth certificate, okay?

CALLER: So then he wouldn’t have to sign anything?

CLINIC: Nope. He would not have to come into the building. If he wanted to come in with you, he would have to show his i.d. In other words, he can just give you the cash, and you can pay yourself.

CALLER: Okay. But could he pick me up then?

CLINIC: Absolutely. You can call and say I’m outside. You can come outside now. You can call from a cell phone.

CALLER: Okay. The thing is, I just haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Would I get one of those before you guys do everything?

CLINIC: Yeah. You can also buy one of those at the grocery store.

CALLER: Oh. Are those usually right though?

CLINIC: Yeah, they’re very accurate.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: What kind should I get?

CLINIC: Any kind of early pregnancy test that you get at the grocery store. And you need to do it first thing in the morning. The first time you go to the bathroom in the morning, that’s when you need to take the test.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant by that test, could I come in and get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: No. You need to go to Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Oh, okay. But would they have to tell anybody if I was getting birth control?

CLINIC: They shouldn’t. There’s no law that says that you have to have parental consent for birth control or anything. There’s no law that says that, okay? If somebody tells you you have to tell your parents, then just go someplace else, because you’ll find a place that won’t make you tell your parents. There is no law that says that you have to tell your parents.

CALLER: How will I know if the pregnancy test is right?

CLINIC: Read the instructions. It will give you instructions.

CALLER: And it tells whether it’s —

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: I just have so many questions.

CLINIC: I understand.

CALLER: I’m just really confused.

CLINIC: It’s a really scary time for you.

CALLER: Could I call you if I had any questions. What was your name?

CLINIC: Yeah. My name’s Margie.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay, Lisa?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: So don’t forget, get that birth certificate. And tell your boyfriend to take you down to DMV and get a photo i.d.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: And you sure that nobody has to know about any of this?

CLINIC: Nobody will know. Absolutely. Nobody will know.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: All right. Thank you.

CLINIC: Okay. Take care.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

***END***

#729 – Boulder Valley Women’s Health Center in Boulder, CO

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BOULDER VALLEY WOMEN’S HEALTH CENTER
2855 VALMONT RD.
BOULDER, CO 80304
303 / 442-5160
303 / 440-9320

TAPE – 729

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Women’s Health. This is Heidi.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: We do. Our clinic is closed right now. This is our administrative line.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: If you needed some information, can you call back tomorrow?

CALLER: Yeah, I guess. What time tomorrow?

CLINIC: Let me see what time they open downstairs. They open at 9. I just don’t have anyone clinical who you can talk to. I can give you some basic information if you have some general questions. I can try to answer what I can for you.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: We do them between 5 and 14 weeks from the first day of your last period.

CALLER: Okay. How do you know how far along you are?

CLINIC: Do you know when you had your last period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: January 3rd? Okay. Hang on real quick.

CALLER: Okay.

(Pause)

CLINIC: I just had to check because we have a special little mechanism that will tell us. If that’s when your period started, you should be fine. But we do do an ultra sound to confirm that just in case that was a false period or anything like that.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: We do them on Fridays.

CALLER: Well, my main question is, I’m going to be 14 on the 19th of this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Now, we’re getting confused. I know if you’re 14 it doesn’t matter.

CALLER: I’ll be 14 on the 19th.

CLINIC: On the 19th?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: You’ll turn 14 on the 19th?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: I don’t think we have to tell your parents. See, these are the questions — I apologize. I’m in the finance office up here. So I work in this capacity and I’m familiar with the structure and the organization and what not, but as far as the specifics like that, I don’t know.

Why don’t you give a call like about 9:30 tomorrow morning if you can, and someone will be more than happy to answer your questions.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: They can answer more of the specifics for you.

CALLER: Who should I ask for?

CLINIC: Hang on real quick.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Thanks for holding. Why don’t you call tomorrow and ask to talk to Holly. She’s our clinic manager. And she’ll have all the information that you need. I just ran into one of our practitioners who said that she believes we do not need — if you are requesting confidentiality and you don’t want your parents to know, that we could still do it without — I mean, we’re not required to tell your parents or anything.

CALLER: Is she busy right now? Could I talk to her?

CLINIC: We’re closed right now.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: So yeah. Give us a call tomorrow morning, because there’s really no one here who can answer the questions for you.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: But yeah, we’ll be happy to talk to you then.

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Thank you. Bye.

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Women’s Health. This is Linsey (ph).

CALLER: Hi. Can I talk to Holly, please?

CLINIC: Ma’am, let me see if she’s available. Can I tell her who’s calling?

CALLER: This is Lisa. I was talking to Heidi yesterday, and she told me to talk to Holly.

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on a moment.

(Pause)

CLINIC: This is Holly.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was talking to Heidi yesterday, and she told me to call you today to ask you a question.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. Let me stop you right here because if you tell me anything else, I have to call the police.

CALLER: Why?

CLINIC: Because you’re 13 and your partner’s 22, right?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: That’s against the law. I have to report it by law.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: So I don’t want to know your name or anything about you if you don’t want me calling the police.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So what you need to do is you need to call completely anonymously and talk to someone on our appointment line. And don’t tell us anything about who your partner is. Okay?

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell my parents though, like that I was getting an abortion?

CLINIC: If the police get involved, they’ll know at least that you’re having sex with that person.

CALLER: Well, I mean, without talking about my boyfriend, would my parents have to know that I was getting an abortion?

CLINIC: I don’t know about that. I don’t know if it would come out or not. But it definitely would come out, and there could be charges brought against him.

CALLER: But do my parents have to know that I am getting an abortion?

CLINIC: No. Just in general, if we don’t know anything about your partner?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: Absolutely not. It’s confidential. There’s no parental consent. Although your age is — let me ask about age. Hang on a second, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Okay. Let me just tell you what we have to report, okay? If someone is under the age of 15 and has sexual contact with someone four years or older. This guy is just a boyfriend to you? He’s not like any kind of person in a position of trust, like a teacher or counselor?

CALLER: Right. He’s just my boyfriend.

CLINIC: I’m just reading this. Sorry.

CALLER: Well, the thing is, I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Could I come in there and get that without anybody saying anything?

CLINIC: As long as you don’t tell us — as long as you don’t tell us about it. If we don’t know how old, we’re not going to ask. I would suggest that you come to teen Clinic. They’re used to dealing with teens, and they know all the legalities of it. The next time we have teen clinic is Saturday though? Can you wait that long?

CALLER: I think so. What time on Saturday?

CLINIC: It starts at 1 and goes to about 6:30. And you could come in and get the pregnancy test and then talk about, you know.

CALLER: Well, my last period was January 3rd. Do you think that there would be any way that I wasn’t pregnant?

CLINIC: Well, certainly missing a period is one of the most obvious signs of pregnancy, but there are other reasons for missing a period. But you have been sexually active? Have you used birth control each time?

CALLER: Well, no. We were wanting to get that if we could.

CLINIC: Well, why don’t you at this point come in and do a pregnancy test. If you can wait until Saturday, then you’re going to have people that know more about teen legalities.

CALLER: How much does it cost for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: And it’s also free if you come to the teen clinic.

CALLER: Oh, all right. Well, do they do birth control there too?

CLINIC: Yes, they do. But they may need to make an appointment to give you that. So let’s rule out the pregnancy first.

CALLER: But would anybody have to know about getting birth control?

CLINIC: Nope.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: It’s just your age I’m worried about. There is an age where you just have to report someone is sexually active at a certain age. And I don’t know whether it’s 12 or 13.

CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 on the 19th.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, that’s probably a good thing, that you’d be 14. Okay?

CALLER: The thing is my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything, but he just can’t come with me?

CLINIC: No, he can come with you. He can’t be more than four years older than you on paper.

CALLER: All right. So it would be okay if he was there with me?

CLINIC: It’d be okay. But, again, like if you tell somebody that he’s 22 and you’re 13, that’s something we would have to call the authorities about.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: So thanks.

CLINIC: And let me give you a different number, okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Because this is our business number, and to make appointments you need to call on a different number. It’s 442-5160.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Thank you.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#730 – Colorado Medical Clinic, Dr. Phil Freedman in Vail, CO

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COLORADO MEDICAL CLINIC, DR. PHIL FREEDMAN
181 W. MEADOW DR. # 200
VAIL, CO 81657
970 / 476-5696

TAPE – 730

(Dialing, phone ringing)

CLINIC: (Unclear) Medical. This is Deandra (ph). How may I direct your call?

CALLER: Hi. I was calling because Connie from Avon told me to call you guys about getting an abortion.

CLINIC: Okay. I’m going to have to take your name and number down, and direct you to the first available doctor.

CALLER: Oh. Well, I can’t give you my number because I’m at my friend’s house, and her mom would answer the phone.

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on one second.

(Pause, music playing)

CLINIC: Hi. This is Deanne (sp). How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling because I was talking to a lady named Connie in Avon, and she told me to call you guys about an abortion.

CLINIC: Okay. What did you need to know?

CALLER: Well, I was actually wondering how much it cost and stuff like that?

CLINIC: How many weeks are you?

CALLER: Well, I’m not really sure. I just haven’t had my period since January 3rd.

CLINIC: So what that your last period, January 3rd?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: A normal abortion cost $473.

CALLER: Okay. Well, the thing is, I’m going to be 14 later on this month. And my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I don’t know how that works. I would have to find out about that.

CALLER: Okay. I can hardly hear you. What did you say?

CLINIC: I said I don’t know about that. I’ll have to check and call you back.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: So your last period was January 24th?

CALLER: The 3rd.

CLINIC: January 3rd. So you would be like nine weeks pregnant right now.

Can you hold on a minute?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Hello?

CALLER: Hi.

CLINIC: Are you for the abortion?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: One of the doctors here said —

CALLER: Are you Diane?

CLINIC: Yeah, yeah. Can you hear me?

CALLER: I can hear you.

CLINIC: One of the doctor’s name is Dr. Peck. He said he could do it.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Right now is the ideal time. You’re nine weeks right now, so you need to make an appointment as soon as possible to come in and have it taken care of. It cost $473. And it needs to be paid in cash or credit card at the time that you check in.

CALLER: Oh. Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay cash for everything. But we don’t want anyone to know about us. Does he have to sign any papers or forms or anything?

CLINIC: No. He could just come in with you and just pay the money and everything then, and it will just be taken care of like that.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And your parents don’t have to know.

CALLER: Me and my boyfriend don’t want anybody to know about any of this, so that’s why he told me to call. Are you sure you wouldn’t have to tell anybody anything?

CLINIC: No. Nobody would have to know. Your parents don’t have to sign anything, and we wouldn’t call them or anything.

CALLER: Okay. Do you guys do the pregnancy test beforehand just to make sure?

CLINIC: Yes. You don’t know for sure that you’re pregnant or not?

CALLER: Well, not really. I just haven’t had my periods for a while, so I’m scared.

CLINIC: Well, can you go to the store and just by like a home pregnancy test?

CALLER: Are those usually right though?

CLINIC: Yeah, they usually are?

CALLER: Oh. But do you guys not do any there?

CLINIC: No, we do do them here. But if you want to know for sure, those are pretty accurate. They’re like 10 bucks if you buy them at Wal-Mart or something. You should do that first just to make sure that you are pregnant.

CALLER: Well, if turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Oh, yes. Sure you could.

CALLER: Okay. But I just don’t want to have to worry about all this anymore. It’s just me and my boyfriend can’t have a baby right now. We want to eventually, just not right now.

CLINIC: Yeah. We can take care of all of that. So just make sure you’re pregnant, and then call us back and tell them you want to set up a termination of pregnancy, a TOP, for Dr. Peck.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: And you’re sure nobody has to know about anything?

CLINIC: Nobody has to know, no.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: Okay, thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#568 – Planned Parenthood in La Junta, CO

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
112 SANTA FE AVE
LA JUNTA, CO 81050-1523
719 / 384-4496

TAPE – 568

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Lori (sp). How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t. The closest clinic is Colorado Springs.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you have the number for that?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. I sure do. Let’s see. It is 1-800-472-7162.

CALLER: All right. Well, do you know, I’m just worried about all this because like my friend told me — like well, I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: You mean, to just go up and have it done?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: And without your parents knowing about it?

CALLER: Right, yeah.

CLINIC: Yeah, you can go up there. You don’t — in the state of Colorado you don’t have to have your parents’ consent to have an abortion no matter what age you are, and they can’t force you to have one either, you know, if people don’t want one. So they don’t have to know, and Planned Parenthood will not tell them.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So your boyfriend can take you up there.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Well, it’s just we were talking about all this, and we decided that we didn’t want anyone to know about us. He said he would pay for everything, but would he have to sign anything if he was paying for it?

CLINIC: No. He just — the only thing is that, you know, he has to pay it in cash or they’ll take like a money order. They won’t take a personal check or they’ll take a credit card. But they won’t– they’ll just have you, you know, fill out medical paperwork, but they won’t have him sign for anything.

CALLER: Well, how much money do you think we should bring?

CLINIC: It depends on how far along you are in your pregnancy. I mean, it could range anywhere from $300 to $600.

CALLER: Well, how do you know how far along you are? Like my last period was like December 26.

CLINIC: December 26? And do you know that you’re pregnant?

CALLER: Well, no. I just haven’t had my period for awhile, and I’m worried.

CLINIC: And you’re probably — and your periods are pretty regular?

CALLER: Most of the time, yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on and I’ll go look, okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: (pause) Okay, your period was December 26 you said?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: And you haven’t taken a test yet, right?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: Okay, so what you’ll — before you actually make an appointment for sure with them, you can call and ask them the information about the pricing and stuff, you’ll need to get a test done somewhere.

CALLER: Can I go in there for that?

CLINIC: Are you a patient here?

CALLER: Well, no.

CLINIC: You haven’t been here before? If you’re not a patient here, then it’s an automatic $22.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything.

CLINIC: He’ll pay for it? Yeah. Because you just need some kind of verification, and we give you a copy of it if you are. That way you can take that with you up there stating that, you know, you already had one done here.

CALLER: Okay. But if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. You sure can.

CALLER: Well, could I get it right away?

CLINIC: Um-hum. If you want pills, we can give them to you the day you come in, but if you want anything else besides that then you have to wait for your period to start for the shots. But for pills, we can give them to you right away.

CALLER: Okay. But would anybody have to know if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No. Nope.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And nobody can know, so that way people aren’t allowed to call, and we can’t give information out.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does it cost for birth control?

CLINIC: For the visit it’s $20 for a one-time visit charge, and then after that for your pills they’ll be $10 for one pack, so you’d get one pack for each month, so they’re $10 apiece.

CALLER: Okay. Well the thing is, I can’t drive yet. Would my boyfriend be able to pick up like the pills?

CLINIC: Can he bring you in for you to fill out the paperwork for the first time?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: And then after that all you have to do is we’ll just have you write on a piece of paper saying that it’s okay for him to pick up pills for you, and then we just stick in your chart, and he can come in whenever you need him to to pick up pills.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay. I’m looking to see if you are pregnant I’m trying to see how far along you are, because I know through Planned Parenthood they only do it up until you’re 16 weeks.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And this is February 28. So if you are pregnant, then it would put you at 9 weeks, so you still would have a few weeks.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So then if you’re not then we can get you on the pills.

CALLER: Okay. So I should call that number that you gave me and ask them?

CLINIC: You can call them, you know, and ask them about pricing and stuff like that. Tell them that, you know, that you’re about you think about 9 weeks and that you’re just wanting to know some information. And then you can come in and we can do a test to see if you are or if you’re not.

CALLER: Okay

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: But my boyfriend and I could come in and see about a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: And we’re here until 4:00.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh You’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#565 – Planned Parenthood in Pueblo, CO

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
955 W US HIGHWAY 50
PUEBLO, CO 81008-1606
719 / 545-0246

TAPE – 565

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X).

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Tony.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if I could ask you a quick question?

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Well, I was wondering about like — my friend told me — I’m worried about — I’m just really worried about everything. But do you guys do like abortions there?

CLINIC: No. They do it in Colorado Springs. I can give you a 1-800 number.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: It’s 1-800-472-7162.

CALLER: What was it again?

CLINIC: 472-7162.

CALLER: Okay. Well, it’s just, the thing is, my friend told me that like I’m going to be 14 next month, and my friend said that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: You don’t have to have your parents’ consent.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay. Well, it’s just, I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet, but my period is — I haven’t had my period since like December 26, and I’m scared.

CLINIC: You haven’t taken a pregnancy test?

CALLER: Well, no.

CLINIC: You can come in here and take one. They’re $22.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? You can just walk in for that.

CALLER: Well, would you be able to tell me right away if I was pregnant?

CLINIC: Yeah. Uh-huh. Within 3 minutes.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything, but we were talking about all this, and we don’t want a whole bunch of people to know about us. Would he have to sign anything if he was paying?

CLINIC: No. Uh-uh.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: You know, if he’s paying with cash, no.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You would have to fill out a form, but it’s all confidential.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Yeah. His name doesn’t go on it.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Yeah, uh-huh.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody that I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: Oh, no. Uh-uh. It’s all confidential, whatever you do here.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: All right. Well, do you know like — what time do you guys normally do the pregnancy tests?

CLINIC: Just whenever. You can just walk in.

CALLER: Oh. Well, what are your hours?

CLINIC: We’re open today until 4:00.

CALLER: Until 4:00?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: What about — how long does it normally take to do the test?

CLINIC: Well, you just fill out the paperwork and take the test, and if nobody’s here it will probably take about five minutes.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, could I get birth control right away if I wasn’t pregnant?

CLINIC: Yeah, uh-huh.

CALLER: Okay. How much does that cost?

CLINIC: The birth control is $18.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: The visit’s $25.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So then if you did do that then we would just charge you $8.00 for the pregnancy test.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: If you ended up getting the pills.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Let’s see. What time can you come in today?

CALLER: Well, I don’t know. I’d have to call my boyfriend to see when he can get off work and take me.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: But are you guys open tomorrow?

CLINIC: Yeah. We’re open from 11:00 to 4:00 tomorrow.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. So I could come in like during his lunch hour or whatever?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Okay. Well, thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#566 – Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs, CO

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
3029 S ACADEMY BLVD
COLORADO SPRINGS, CO 80916-3201
719 / 390-5411

TAPE – 566

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Dessa (sp). Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. What did you say your name was again?

CLINIC: Dessa.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Hi.

CLINIC: Hi.

CALLER: I was wondering, do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, hon. Let me give you a phone number for that.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: It’s 475-7162. They’re a Planned Parenthood Clinic, but they’re the one in town that does it.

CALLER: Oh. They’re in town there?

CLINIC: Yeah, they’re here in Springs. It’s just they’re the only (unclear) Planned Parenthood in town that does that procedure.

CALLER: Oh. Well, could I ask you real quick? I’m just worried because like, well I’ll be 14 next month, and my friend said that they would have to tell my parents. But —

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: — my boyfriend’s 22. Is that old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Hon, I think it’s completely confidential.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: You’re 14?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 next month.

CLINIC: Oh. Yeah, you can call them and ask them, but yeah, I know people younger than 18 can come in here and get birth control without telling their parents. I think it is something you can do without your parents. But you are going to have to — if there is a fee for it.

CALLER: Okay, yeah. Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything and take care of everything, so. But could I come in there for a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Yeah.

CALLER: I’m just worried about all this because I haven’t had my period since like December 26, so.

CLINIC: Oh. We do do pregnancy tests. You can just walk in to have that done. It is $22. It’s cash or credit card, no checks.

CALLER: Okay. But nobody would have to ask anything about my boyfriend or anything?

CLINIC: No, honey. It’s confidential.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: No. We don’t need to ask anybody about that.

CALLER: Because he said that he was going to pay for everything, and we were all talking about this, and he was saying — well, we decided that we don’t want a whole bunch of people to know about us. So he was going to pay. But would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: I don’t know. You’d have to call them.

CALLER: Well, like for the pregnancy test.

CLINIC: Oh, for — no. This is between you and me.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: How old is he?

CALLER: 22.

CLINIC: That’s why he’s concerned.

CALLER: Oh, what do you mean?

CLINIC: Because that’s illegal.

CALLER: What’s illegal? I don’t understand.

CLINIC: Because you’re under age. He’s over 18. It’s highly illegal. He can get in big, big trouble.

CALLER: What kind of trouble?

CLINIC: I don’t know what the laws are, but it’s called statutory rape.

CALLER: But he’s not raping me. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married. He said he was going to take care of me forever. What could happen?

CLINIC: Hon? You know what? I just wanted you to know it’s illegal. Yeah, you can come in and get a pregnancy test, and it is confidential, and you can still get the procedure done at the clinic. I Just thought I’d let you know. It is extremely illegal, and he should know that.

CALLER: Well, what should I do?

CLINIC: Well, go ahead and go with what you need to get done. Okay? You know, with your choices. But —

CALLER: Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: You sure can.

CALLER: But you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about birth control?

CLINIC: No. It’s completely confidential.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just I don’t want to have to worry about all this again, so.

CLINIC: Yeah. Yeah, you can come in.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Yep.

CALLER: Okay. Well, could I call you if I had any other questions? What was your name?

CLINIC: Dessa (sp).

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: I’ll be here until 1:00. Call that other clinic though and ask them because I don’t know, you know, some of those questions. But of course you can call me. What’s your name?

CALLER: It’s Lisa.

CLINIC: Lisa?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Oh. Lisa, I’d be real careful. That man should know that this is illegal, and I know it sounds wonderful and everything but you are way too young for him to be doing that.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You be careful. I wouldn’t trust him. It is extremely illegal.

CALLER: Well, he’s a — I mean, he’s a great guy. I don’t understand.

CLINIC: It’s illegal.

CALLER: But — but you guys wouldn’t report him, would you?

CLINIC: No. Far as I know it’s completely confidential.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: And in the end we’re here to make sure you get your pregnancy test and get procedures that you want done. You know what I mean?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: That’s what we’re here for.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: And I don’t know who you are.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You know? I know a lot of other people with your name.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? I want you to feel that you can come in here and get your stuff done.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay, bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#567 – Planned Parenthood Of The Rocky Moutains in Colorado Springs, CO

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF THE ROCKY MOUTAINS
1330 W COLORADO AVE
COLORADO SPRINGS, CO 80904-4099
719 / 475-7162

TAPE – 567

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood Services of Corpus. This is Tammy.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling because like I was talking to Dessa at the other place, and she told me to call you guys.

CLINIC: Okay. For what?

CALLER: For getting an abortion.

CLINIC: Okay. We’re in the middle of running surgical clinic right now, so if you want to make an appointment you can hold. I can’t guarantee you how long it’s going to be.

CALLER: Oh. Well, could I ask you real quick? I’m just worried about getting an abortion, because my friend told me that — like I’m going to be 14 next month, and she said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign — is he old enough to sign whatever it is and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: You’re 14 and your boyfriend is 22?

CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 next month.

CLINIC: So you’re 13.

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Legally that’s statutory rape, and if you were to express that to someone at our clinic we would definitely have to report it.

CALLER: Oh. But what should I do then?

CLINIC: You don’t have to have parental consent to come here for an abortion. But like I said, if you express it to someone in the clinic and we document that, then legally we have to report it.

CALLER: So should somebody else bring me then?

CLINIC: I would suggest that.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, could it be that I wasn’t pregnant, you think?

CLINIC: Say it again?

CALLER: Could it be — like I haven’t had my period since like December 26, and I’m just worried. Do you think that there would be any way that I wasn’t pregnant/

CLINIC: Yes, you could be. Just because — when you’re 13 your periods aren’t always to a point where they’re on a regular pattern. So sometimes, you know, you can have a period or —

CALLER: I’m just really worried about all this, so.

CLINIC: Okay. Have you taken a pregnancy test?

CALLER: Well, no.

CLINIC: Okay. You said you haven’t had a period for how many months?

CALLER: Since December 26.

CLINIC: Okay. That’s where I would start. Are you having any signs or symptoms of pregnancy?

CALLER: What kind? What do you mean?

CLINIC: Like fatigue or are you tired all the time?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Throwing up?

CALLER: Uh-uh.

CLINIC: Have you noticed that your appetite has increased?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Are you feeling any type of movement?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: I would take a pregnancy test anyway just to see if it comes back positive or negative.

CALLER: Well, should I come in there for that?

CLINIC: Yeah, you can come to this center and take it if you want, and the pregnancy test here is $22.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? You don’t need an appointment. You can just walk in for that service.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: You sure can.

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell anybody that I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: And we offer different methods that you would not have to take home. We offer depo which is a shot you get every three months. We offer Lunel (sp) which is a shot that you get every month, so that way no one would have to know.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just me and my boyfriend don’t want to go through all this again, so it’s all right to get birth control and no one would have to know anything?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Okay. Okay. Well, if I thought of any questions could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Tammy.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You sure can.

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Good bye.

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