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#839 – Planned Parenthood in Appleton, WI

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
3800 N. GILLETE ST.
APPLETON, WI 54913
920-731-9534

TAPE – 839

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Good afternoon, Planned Parenthood. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: If you’re 12 weeks pregnant or under, there will be a total cost of $455.

CALLER: How do you know how many weeks you are?

CLINIC: Well, we go by the first day of your last normal period.

CALLER: Oh. That was January 15th.

CLINIC: There will be two separate appointments. The doctor will do a ultra sound on your first appointment, and that will be the final factor in deciding how far along you are.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You said January 15th?

CALLER: Yes.

CLINIC: Okay. You’re about eight weeks, roughly.

CALLER: I’m just kind of worried. My boyfriend said he would pay cash for everything. I’m just scared. I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22, and he was going to take care of everything. Would that be all right, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Well, there is a parental consent in the state of Wisconsin.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: But there’s a way around it too. Do you have a brother or sister over the age of 25?

CALLER: No. I’m the oldest.

CLINIC: Have you had any previous pregnancies?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: No. Then your final thing would be to call your public defender in your county. And what you want is a judicial bypass.

CALLER: Okay. What is that?

CLINIC: That means you’re going to sign for yourself, and you do not need your parents to be with you.

CALLER: Do I need a lawyer for that?

CLINIC: Yep. That’s what the public defender is. It’s free. You go in as Jane Doe. What county do you live in? I can give you their phone number.

CALLER: I live in Appleton.

CLINIC: Can you hold for a second? Is that something you think you’d want to do? And what you do on that is you contact the public defender, and you tell them you want a judicial bypass. And you set up a meeting with him or her, and then they discuss why you can’t go to your parents, do you know your three options, and those are parenting, adoption or an abortion. You discuss that with your public defender. And he may have you do a little research. He may even have you come here to get some information like after school or whatever. We can set something up where you come in and learn about what goes on during an abortion, what are the risks, things like that.

CALLER: Well, does a judge usually say it’s okay?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Nine times out of ten, they’re pretty good.

Let me grab that number. Can you hold for a moment?

CALLER: Yeah.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Okay. He’s a really nice guy. And his number is 832-2886.

CALLER: Okay. And what was his name?

CLINIC: His name is Eugene Bartman. Mr. Bartman. And you just ask to talk to a public defender, and that will probably be him.

CALLER: Okay. Well, could I come there to get a pregnancy test just to make sure, because I haven’t had one yet.

CLINIC: Why don’t you go to the store? They’re a lot cheaper that way.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: But are they as right as the ones that you have?

CLINIC: They’re just as good. We almost use the same one that — like EPT. Fact Plus is one that we usually use that’s pretty similar. And do it with your first morning urine. When you get up tomorrow morning, do the pregnancy test then.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, could I come in there for birth control?

CLINIC: Actually, it would be our other clinic on Wisconsin Avenue. They could help you out with the birth control.

CALLER: So after I do the whole judicial thing, and I come in there — me and my boyfriend were talking about all this, and he said he would pay cash for everything. But we don’t want anyone to know about us. Would he have to —

CLINIC: Nobody will know.

CALLER: Would he have to fill out any forms or sign any papers?

CLINIC: No. Well, you would, not him.

CALLER: Okay. So his name wouldn’t be on anything?

CLINIC: No. No.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: First what I would do is do that pregnancy test first to make sure that you are pregnant. Go to Wal-Mart or whatever and go get one, and do it tomorrow morning. Then if you are indeed pregnant, then call the public defender, and tell him you need a judicial bypass to have an abortion.

CALLER: Okay. So if I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you?

CLINIC: Oh, okay.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: I’m Valerie. Or anybody here who picks up the phone will be able to help you out.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

CALLER: You’re welcome. Bye.

***END***

#808 – Planned Parenthood Of Wisconsin in Milwaukee, WI

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF WISCONSIN
302 N. JACKSON ST.
MILWAUKEE, WI 53202
414-276-8777

TAPE – 808

(Dialing, phone did not ring)

CLINIC: Good afternoon, Planned Parenthood. This is Linda.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: It’s a total of $385.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I’m just kind of worried. I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Oh. Okay. Because you just told me that — you didn’t tell me your name. But if you’re 14 and your boyfriend is 22, he could be arrested for sexual assault.

CALLER: Why? He’s not assaulting me. We’re in love. We’re going —

CLINIC: Listen. Just a wait a minute. Wait a minute. It’s not my law. It’s a state law because the state believes that you’re under the age of making a decision to have sexual intercourse. It’s a state law. So here are your options.

You can have an abortion. If you can’t have your parents sign for you for a consent, what you can do is call the public defender’s office, and you can get what’s called a court bypass. And then they can walk you through. And you talk to the judge. You tell the judge why you want to have an abortion. And the judge will either grant it or not grant it.

CALLER: Does he usually —

CLINIC: Yes, they usually grant it. But I have to tell you that if you come here and give us your name and tell us that your boyfriend is 22 years old, we would have to report that to Social Services. Because you are not old enough to be making that decision.

CALLER: Well, if I don’t say then, it would be better?

CLINIC: Well, if you don’t say it, we don’t have to report it. If you say it, we have to report it. Because you are 14 and he is way an adult.

CALLER: Well, I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Would I be able to get that there?

CALLER: Just go to Walgreens or Shopco (ph) and get a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Well, are those usually right though?

CLINIC: Yep. Those are real good. Get a pregnancy test. Do you go to school?

CALLER: Well, I’m homeschooled.

CLINIC: You’re homeschooled?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: I think you need to talk to somebody. You go to a Planned Parenthood maybe and talk about if you really want to be sexually active because there’s a lot of risk when you’re having sex when you’re that young.

CALLER: Yeah. If it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: Yes, you can. Yes, you can.

CALLER: But would anybody have to know if was on birth control?

CLINIC: No. Nobody knows if you get birth control. But do not have sex with him unless he uses condoms. You are too young to be making the decision to have sex when you’re 14.

CALLER: I don’t drive yet. Would my boyfriend be able to pick up the birth control?

CLINIC: Well, you’d have to go to the clinic to get the birth control. So first of all you start with a pregnancy test. And then you pick up the phone and you call a Planned Parenthood. If you now pregnant, you call Planned Parenthood and set up an appointment. Tell them you need birth control.

CALLER: And they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Nobody’s going to tell if you take birth control. If you’re going to have sex, we’re going to help you protect yourself from pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases. That’s your decision. But we want you to think about whether or not you really want to have sex.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? Do you know why you’re having sex?

CALLER: Well, me and boyfriend are in love.

CLINIC: Okay. If you’re in love you need to think about if this is what you want to do right now. You know? Because it’s against the law for him to have sex with you. Does your mom or dad know that you’re seeing a 22-year-old?

CALLER: Yeah. I mean, they just don’t know we’re having sex. He works with my dad. They know him, and they know we’re going out.

CLINIC: All right. Well, they might feel different if they know you’re having sex with him.

CALLER: Right, yeah. And they can’t find out about that at all.

CLINIC: Right. So you have the pregnancy test taken. And if you’re not pregnant, do not have sex with him until you get to Planned Parenthood and get on some birth control. Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Because not only could you be getting an unwanted pregnancy, but you could get a disease. And the problem with that is, if you have a disease and it’s not taken care of with any medicine, when you want to have babies in the future, you might not be able to.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: But as long as I’m not pregnant, no one has to know anything?

CLINIC: Nobody has to know if you’re not pregnant. And if you are pregnant and you want an abortion, you call the public defender’s office. But please think about what I said. But if you’re going to have sex, we want you to be protected.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Any other questions?

CALLER: Well, I don’t know. But if I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you?

CLINIC: You bet. You call. I’m Linda.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye.

***END***

#753 – Madison Aboriton Clinic in Madison, WI

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MADISON ABORITON CLINIC
309 W. WASHINGTON AVE FL 4
MADISON, WI 53715
608-251-5900

TAPE – 753

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CALLER: Dr. Christensen’s (ph) office. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: Three hundred and fifty dollars for 12 weeks and under. Then the price goes up. You also need counseling and ultra sound, which is $100.

CALLER: How do you know how far you are?

CLINIC: We do an ultra sound.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my last period was January 3rd. Does that help you in any way.

CLINIC: You’d be under 12 weeks, so you’d be 350.

CALLER: Okay. The thing is, I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. He wouldn’t be able to sign for you.

CALLER: So my parents would have to know then?

CLINIC: Right.

CALLER: Well, is there any way that my parents don’t have to know?

CLINIC: You can call the state public defender’s office and see if you can get a judicial bypass. They’re pretty easy to get for teenagers.

CALLER: What is that?

CLINIC: It’s where you go in front of a judge. It’s a real informal study. And it’s a free service. So they basically want to make sure that you’re sure of your decision and that no one’s forcing you.

CALLER: Well, no. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: You’re 13?

CALLER: Uh-huh. Well, I’ll be 14 on the 19th.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, I can give you the number. Do your parents know you’re dating him?

CALLER: Yeah. I mean, he works with my dad. They just don’t know we’re having sex. I mean, if they found out about that, I don’t know what they would do.

CLINIC: (Pause) Okay. The number is 266-9150. And you can give them a call.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Would I be able to come in there for that?

CLINIC: We do pregnancy testing Tuesday to Friday, 8 to 3.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: It’s free.

CALLER: But would anybody have to know if I was getting a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys have birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Well, how much does it cost for birth control?

CLINIC: That I’m not sure. You’d have to call back tomorrow when the physician’s assistant is in.

CALLER: Oh, all right. Well, are they home pregnancy tests or —

CLINIC: No, it’s a clinic test.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So they’re better than the home pregnancy ones?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Okay. How much does it cost for all of that then?

CLINIC: The pregnancy test is free. If you’re pregnant, it would be $450 total.

CALLER: We were talking about all this, and he said he was going to pay for everything with cash. But he just doesn’t want anyone to know about us. If he was paying, would he have to fill out any forms?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Are you sure?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Okay. If I had any other questions I could think of, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Carla.

CALLER: Okay. All right. And when do you normally do the pregnancy tests?

CLINIC: Tuesday through Friday, 8 to 3.

CALLER: Okay. All right. How long does it usually take?

CLINIC: If we’re not too busy, 5 or 10 minutes.

CALLER: Oh, all right. So could I come on my boyfriend’s lunch break or whatever?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: It’s just he would have to take me. I don’t have any other way to get there.

CLINIC: Sure, that would be fine.

CALLER: Okay. All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome. Bye bye.

***END***

#754 – Affiliated Medical Services in Milwaukee, WI

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AFFILIATED MEDICAL SERVICES
1428 N. FAREWELL AVE.
MILWAUKEE, WI 53202
414-278-0424

TAPE – 754

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Affiliated Medical.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Do you know how much it cost for that?

CLINIC: It depends. Is this for you?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: It depends on how far along you are.

CALLER: How do you know how far along you are?

CLINIC: When was the first day of your last period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: That was the first day of the last normal one?

CALLER: Yes.

CLINIC: You’re about eight-and-a-half weeks right now. And for the surgical procedure, it’s $100, for the state-mandated counseling. Beyond that, it’s $240 for the local procedure; 315 if you have the twilight sedation with that. And then do you have a Forward card at all?

CALLER: A what?

CLINIC: A Forward card, medical assistance?

CALLER: No. Well, my boyfriend said he would pay cash for everything. The thing is, I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of everything, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. You would need to have an adult relative with you —

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: — at the age of 25.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Or your parents, or you can do the — you can go to court and have a bypass.

CALLER: Well, how much does it cost to go to court?

CLINIC: It doesn’t cost anything.

CALLER: Oh. Do I need a lawyer?

CLINIC: No. I am not actually too familiar with that. You would probably — I would recommend calling tomorrow morning, because I’m not too familiar with that whole thing in the state of Wisconsin.

CALLER: Okay. Well, does the judge usually say it’s okay?

CLINIC: As I said before, I’m not too familiar. I assume that most of the time. I doubt that there’s any time that a judge doesn’t. I mean, it all depends on if the judge feels that you are adult enough to make the decision.

CALLER: Oh, all right. I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Do you guys do that there?

CLINIC: We do, but that’s probably something you would want to do. Our tests are just as accurate as the ones that you get at like Target and Walgreens.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Okay. I just didn’t know that those were right.

CLINIC: Oh, they are, yeah.

CALLER: Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I come in there and get birth control? It’s just we don’t want to have to worry about all this anymore.

CLINIC: Right. The thing is that we’re a private clinic, so it does cost a little bit more for like a pap smear and everything. If that’s what you’re going to be looking at, I would go to like a Planned Parenthood because they have lower costs for that and stuff.

CALLER: Are they as good?

CLINIC: Oh, definitely. Yeah.

CALLER: But would they have to tell anybody if I was there for all that?

CLINIC: For like birth control?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, do you not know how much it cost at the Planned Parenthood for birth control?

CLINIC: Oh, for birth control? No, I don’t know.

CALLER: How much does it cost from you guys?

CLINIC: I believe it’s over 100. That’s for like the pap smear.

CALLER: Well, the thing is, my boyfriend gave me the number to call you guys, and he really wanted to go to you. He wasn’t really worried about —

CLINIC: Cost.

CALLER: We were talking about all this, and he said he was going to pay for everything, but we don’t want anyone to know about us. So if he came in there, would he have to fill out any forms or anything?

CLINIC: You mean for you to get a pap smear?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: No. I mean, it would be all you.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Hold on one second, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Yeah —

CALLER: Hello?

CLINIC: Yeah?

CALLER: Are you there?

CLINIC: Yeah. I think it’s about $100.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But if I were you I would first take the pregnancy test first, and then go from there. I believe that our prices are pretty close for abortions as Planned Parenthood. I think we may be a little bit more. I don’t really know actually. I haven’t called over there. But don’t worry about being under the age of 18 until you know what’s going on.

CALLER: So after the pregnancy test, I could call you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Melissa.

CALLER: Okay. And just take the test and then call you?

CLINIC: You can speak to anyone who answers the phone.

CALLER: Oh, all right.

CLINIC: Because I don’t work here full time, and I probably won’t be here. Just explain your situation. And plus, whoever answers probably will know more about the bypass, for going in front of the judge and stuff.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Thank you.

CLINIC: Oh, you’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#681 – Planned Parenthood in Green Bay, WI

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
302 N. ADAMS ST
GREEN BAY, WI 54301-5176
920-432-0031

TAPE – 681

(dialing sound) (ringing 3X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood of Green Bay. This is Corinna. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know of anybody that does?

CLINIC: In Green Bay? Or do you want a Planned Parenthood? There’s one in Appleton, Planned Parenthood. Otherwise, there’s OB-GYN Associates in Green Bay.

CALLER: Probably the one in Appleton.

CLINIC: It’s 888-844-5771.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know — it’s just — the thing is I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend told me you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: You’re going to either have to — and I don’t know the rules and you’ll have to ask them — but you’re going to have to either have an aunt or priest or a sister, somebody over the age of 18, sign for you.

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend’s 22.

CLINIC: I don’t think he counts. It’s got to be a family member.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: If none of them can do it, you can go to a priest and have them do it or a pastor, whatever. Or you can get a court bypass.

CALLER: What’s a court bypass?

CLINIC: That they’ll have to explain to you because I don’t know. But just call and ask them.

CALLER: Okay. Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test though just to make sure? It’s just I haven’t had my period since January 3 and we’re just really scared.

CLINIC: Have you taken one at home?

CALLER: Well, no.

CLINIC: Okay. You can come in here for one. They are $43.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You need to pay that at time of service.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything. It’s just, when we were talking about all this we didn’t want a whole bunch — we decided we didn’t want anybody to know about us. So if he was paying for it, would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Okay. But I could come in for a pregnancy test and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Right.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Get here before 3:30 today.

CALLER: Okay. If it came out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control today too?

CLINIC: That you have to get an appointment for. They have to do like an exam and stuff before you go on.

CALLER: Okay. But does anyone have to know if I’m on birth control though?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: So thank you.

CLINIC: Yep.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#665 – Planned Parenthood in Wisconsin Rapids, WI

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
214 W. GRAND AVE.
WISCONSIN RAPIDS, WI 54495-2788
715-423-9610

TAPE – 665

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood. This is Nancy. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Oh. Okay. Well, do you know of anybody that does?

CLINIC: The Appleton Planned Parenthood and Milwaukee.

CALLER: Do you have that phone number for the one in Appleton?

CLINIC: Yeah. Hold on. 920-731-9534.

CALLER: Okay. The main problem I have is I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is, and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: You better call them and find that out.

CALLER: Oh. All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test just to make sure I am pregnant?

CLINIC: When was the last time you had a period?

CALLER: It was January 3rd.

CLINIC: January 3rd.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. So you missed a whole period.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Are you a patient of ours?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Okay. You’ll need to come in and fill out some paperwork. And there is a charge for that.

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend said that he would take care of everything. So is that all right if he was there with me?

CLINIC: Um-hmm. Okay. Did you want to come in today?

CALLER: I don’t know. I’d have to talk to him and see what time he can bring me.

CLINIC: Well, figure it out. We’re open Monday and Thursdays. And you would need to be here pretty soon if you’re coming in today, or you can come in Thursday. Did you do an over-the-counter pregnancy test?

CALLER: No. I didn’t know that those were right.

CLINIC: That’s pretty much the same thing we use —

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: — with a urine sample.

CALLER: Oh. Well, I would just really feel better if I had you guys do it. But if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell anybody if I was getting birth control pills?

CLINIC: No. No, you can consent for your own treatment here.

CALLER: You don’t know if I have to tell them about an abortion though?

CLINIC: I’m sorry, what?

CALLER: You don’t know if I have to —

CLINIC: I think you do need consent for that.

CALLER: Well, do you know if there’s any way around that?

CLINIC: You need to call them and ask them.

CALLER: Okay. So I could come in there for a pregnancy test and maybe birth control.

CLINIC: Yeah. And call me back when you can figure out when you can come in, and I’ll schedule you an appointment.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay. Thank you.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

***END***

#559 – Planned Parenthood in Monroe, WI

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
PO BOX 642
MONROE, WI 53566
608-325-5005

TAPE – 559

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Good morning. Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Well, do you know of any place that does?

CLINIC: There’s a place in Madison. There’s a place in Rockford. Neither one are Planned Parenthood. Did you want phone numbers?

CALLER: Yes, please.

CLINIC: Which one do you want, Madison or Rockford?

CALLER: Well I’m not really sure which one. But do you know — like I’m just worried because like my friend told me that since like — well I’ll be 14 next month.

CLINIC: Oh.

CALLER: And she said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he hold enough to take care of it and –

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: — they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: You want to go to Rockford then. Don’t go to Madison.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Because in Wisconsin we’ve got parental consent where you’d have to tell your parents, but Rockford doesn’t.

CALLER: Well, what’s the number for Rockford then?

CLINIC: Yeah. Let me find it here for you. Here we go. 815-963-4101.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, do you know if I could come there for a pregnancy test just to make sure?

CLINIC: You’re better to go –

CALLER: It’s just, I haven’t had my period yet since like December 21st, and that’s why I’m really worried.

CLINIC: Have you done a home test?

CALLER: No. I didn’t know that those were right.

CLINIC: Sure. The same thing we use.

CALLER: Oh. Well, I would just rather come in there to have you guys do it. But would that be all right?

CLINIC: You can. There’s a cost for it though.

CALLER: Oh. Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: It’s just, we were talking about all this, and we don’t want anyone to know about us.

CLINIC: That’s fine. Yeah.

CALLER: Would he have to sign anything though?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: If he’s paying for it?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: No. You can just come in.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Don’t come any later than 5:00.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: If it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Yep.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Yep.

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell anybody about that?

CLINIC: No. No.

CALLER: It’s just — okay. We just don’t want to have to worry about all this again. So.

CLINIC: Right. Right. As long as he’s paying for it, that’s fine.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Well, I just have a lot of questions. I don’t know if –

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: But if I think of something else, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Joleen.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Yep. You can call and talk to me any time.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Yep. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#564 – Planned Parenthood in Shawano, WI

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
112 E. MAURER ST.
SHAWANO, WI 54166-2942
715-526-9655

TAPE – 564
(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Good morning. Planned Parenthood Shano (sp). This is Diane. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering, do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: We don’t at this particular clinic.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know of anybody that does?

CLINIC: Well, we have a list of some providers throughout the state if you want to stop in you can pick up the list; and there’s phone numbers and that on there you can call.

CALLER: Okay. Well, could I ask you something real quick?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: I’m just worried about all this because like my friend told me that — well I’m going to be 14 next month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Being that he’s older I don’t know. That’s kind of a situation where he’s with a minor.

CALLER: What do you mean?

CLINIC: Well, it’s really against the law to have an adult having intercourse with a minor child.

CALLER: It’s against the law?

CLINIC: Yes, it is. (laughs)

CALLER: Well, what could happen?

CLINIC: It depends on if somebody wants to press charges or not.

CALLER: Well, are you guys going to press charges?

CLINIC: If you just want to come in and pick up the information –

CALLER: Well, I was actually just wanting to get like a pregnancy test because like –

CLINIC: Oh, you don’t even know if you are pregnant?

CALLER: Well, I haven’t had my period since like December 26, and I’m just cared.

CLINIC: Okay. Are you, have you been getting your periods normally, or are they irregular anyways?

CALLER: They’re usually normal.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, if you want you can come in for a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell anybody about my boyfriend or anything?

CLINIC: No. Well, if I were you I wouldn’t mention his age. (laughs)

CALLER: Oh, okay. But he would have to be there with me because he was going to drive me and pay for everything.

CLINIC: That’s okay.

CALLER: Okay. So it’s still all right if he’s there?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: And he won’t get in trouble?

CLINIC: Not that I’m aware of.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: I just wouldn’t mention his age and mention that he’s your boyfriend with that age. (laughs)

CALLER: Okay. So when I come in for a pregnancy test if it came out that I wasn’t pregnant could I get birth control?

CLINIC: We could do what we call “pills in advance.” You need to have an exam but we don’t have a nurse here right now, so you could get sort of like where you could start on them right away, and then in three months you need to come back and have an exam done.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Are you in Shano County or –

CALLER: I live in Clintonville.

CLINIC: You live in Clintonville so you’re not in Shano County. Okay.

CALLER: But my friend gave me you guys’ number, so –

CLINIC: Yeah. Pills would run $8.75 a pack. And there may be a charge for like an office visit. If you’re having a pregnancy test that’s $7.50, and that you need to pay when you come.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Would anybody have to know about all this though?

CLINIC: No. Everything’s confidential.

CALLER: Okay. All right.

CLINIC: Were you interested in coming for anything today then?

CALLER: Well, what time are you guys open today?

CLINIC: We’re here from 10:00 to 5:00.

CALLER: Okay. I would have to call my boyfriend to see if he could take me, but I think so. Are you guys open tomorrow though?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh. When’s the next day you’re open?

CLINIC: Monday.

CALLER: Oh, okay. What time on Monday?

CLINIC: Mondays we’re here from 10:00 to 6:00, Thursdays 10:00 to 5:00.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if I bought a pregnancy test in the store, do you think those are normally right?

CLINIC: Yeah, those are accurate, um-hum.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if I took that and I wasn’t pregnant could I come in there for birth control?

CLINIC: Sure. Sure. But you’d need to call and just let us know, set up an appointment so we know you’re coming.

CALLER: Okay. So, but if i was pregnant would you have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All righty.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Bye.

CALLER: Thanks.

(phone clicks)

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#537 – Planned Parenthood in Portage, WI

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
PO BOX 887
PORTAGE, WI 53901
608-742-1551

TAPE – 537

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood. This is Donna. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know of anybody that does?

CLINIC: Yes, I do. Just a moment. I have to find pamphlet for — okay. The closest one to us would be the one in Madison, and there’s an 800 number. 800-322-2039. And you can call them. There’s also Milwaukee and Appleton if either of those work better for you.

CALLER: Well, let me try that first one in Madison. But do you know — I’m just really worried because like, well I’m going to be 14 years old in March, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody anything?

CLINIC: I know that there’s a law that you have to, they have to contact your parents. Let me just ask someone. Hold on.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: (pause) Hi.

CALLER: Hi.

CLINIC: I don’t think that they would do that. I think you’d have to contact the public defender and get your, have a judge declare you competent to make that decision, and he would give you permission.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Your best bet is to go to your parents.

CALLER: But I can’t tell them at all. I mean –

CLINIC: You what?

CALLER: I can’t tell them at all. I mean, if they found out that me and my boyfriend were having sex, I don’t know what they would do.

CLINIC: You know? I know. I know that’s how you feel. But you know what? They love you more than they love anyone else in the whole world. They’ll yell. But they’ll be there for ya.

CALLER: Well, do you know if the judge ever says no or anything?

CLINIC: I don’t know. You’d have to really actually talk to someone in — where do you get ahold of a public defender, Jim? (talking off-mike) Okay. Call the clerk of courts and ask them who the public defenders are, and they can help you. They’d be able to answer those questions better than I.

CALLER: Well, does that cost any money?

CLINIC: Public defenders don’t cost any money, do they? No.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test to see if I am?

CLINIC: Yes. You bet you can. You can come in today. Just walk in.

CALLER: It’s just, the thing is, my boyfriend would be the only way I could get there. Would it be all right if he was there with me?

CLINIC: I guess.

CALLER: It’s just, we were talking about all this, and we didn’t want a whole bunch of people to know about us. Would he have to sign anything if he’s paying for it?

CLINIC: No. This is confidential here. I don’t know because there’s a legal issue there.

CALLER: What kind? What do you mean?

CLINIC: Hold on. I have to ask my manager some questions. Hold on.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: (pause) Hi.

CALLER: Hi.

CLINIC: The legal issue is your boyfriend is 21.

CALLER: Well, he’s 22.

CLINIC: 22. And you’re 13.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: That’s a legal issue, and no matter where you go they need to report it.

CALLER: To who? What could happen? What –

CLINIC: There’s a thing called statutory rape.

CALLER: But he’s not raping me. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married, and he’s going to take care of me.

CLINIC: You’re 13 years old.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: In the law’s eyes, you’re not of an age where you can be consensual.

CALLER: Well, what could happen?

CLINIC: He could go to jail. That’s what can happen.

CALLER: Well, he can’t go to jail. I mean, he’s the only one that’s there for me.

CLINIC: You know, you can tell me that. But I didn’t make the law. What, you need to discuss it with him. And you need –

CALLER: Well, if I come for a pregnancy test would he have to go to jail? I mean, how could I come in if he’s not there?

CLINIC: Hold on. Let me ask. (pause) Hi.

CALLER: Hi.

CLINIC: You can come in and have the pregnancy test done. He can drop you off here, and you don’t have to name him.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: But it’s still going to need to be reported because at your age you’re not old enough to consent to have sex.

CALLER: Oh. Well, what can I do then?

CLINIC: That’s the law. Any place you go you’re between a rock and a hard spot now. You cannot name him. Beyond that, I don’t know. You know? And if you’re not pregnant, we don’t have to report it.

CALLER: Oh. So if I was pregnant and you reported it, would they have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: I imagine that they would have to tell their parents, wouldn’t they? If we reported it? It goes to Social Services. Yeah. We don’t know where it goes from beyond there.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So, but if I wasn’t pregnant, would I be able to get birth control there and you guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: You can still get birth control at age 13. Yes, without having to be reported to anyone.

CALLER: Oh, okay. All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: So is it possible that I wasn’t pregnant then?

CLINIC: Pardon me?

CALLER: Is it possible that I’m not pregnant?

CLINIC: Only you can tell me that. I mean –

CALLER: My last period was like December 21st. That’s why I’m scared about all this.

CLINIC: Yeah, at 13 it’s not unusual to have that, you know, stopping and starting kind of thing going on. But you know what you could do, is you can go and get one of those pregnancy tests over the counter and try that.

CALLER: Are those usually right?

CLINIC: If you do them right they usually are.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Did you do one?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Okay. You could do that for starters.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And if it’s negative get in here and we’ll do a pills in advance or something on you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right. Call us back –

CALLER: You guys wouldn’t tell on my boyfriend or anything though?

CLINIC: You don’t tell us who he is.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right. Thanks.

CALLER: Okay. Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#538 – Planned Parenthood (ymca Center) in Milwaukee, WI

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD (YMCA CENTER)
3940 N. 21ST. ST.
MILWAUKEE, WI 53206-1969
414-449-3341

TAPE – 538

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Val Phillips Clinic. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t do them here, but we do them in our other clinic.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, do you have the number for that?

CLINIC: Huh?

CALLER: Do you have the number for that?

CLINIC: Yeah. Just hang on. I was just going to grab it. Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay. There’s two in Milwaukee. There’s Affiliated on Farwall (sp) and then we have one on Jackson, okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: And the Jackson Street one is 276-8777. And they’re open today 8:00 to 4:00.

CALLER: Okay. Well, could I ask you real quick, like I’m just worried about all this because like, well I’m going to be 14 next month.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: And my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents I was getting an abortion. But –

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: — my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody anything?

CLINIC: Are you 13?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Well, that could be a liability problem.

CALLER: What do you mean?

CLINIC: Just hang on. I’m going to get a little information. Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay, thanks for holding. The thing is, you have to consider that because you are 13 and your boyfriend is 22 that that is statutory rape.

CALLER: What? But he’s not raping me. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married. He said he was going to take care of me for the rest of my life.

CLINIC: Well, but, I mean, but that’s not how our laws work. Okay?

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: I understand that, but you try and get him involved we are liable, and we need to report it. I would not — just so you know that. Your other route is — do you have a family member that is 25 years or older who would vouch for you? Or to get a clergy-member or to get the courts to listen. They do that all the time. You go and see the DA and then you present your case of why you do not want — you don’t want to have that child. And then they can — they’ll just ask you questions and then they’ll vouch for you.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do they usually say yes?

CLINIC: A lot of the times that I’ve experienced, yes. Definitely if you — because it is your choice. So they just have to make sure hat you’re sound mind and everything like that, so it’s kind of a technicality really.

CALLER: Well, would they do anything? Would they ask about my boyfriend or anything?

CLINIC: Well, that’s what if you mention it, yeah. They’ll — the law requires them that they report it. So that’s up to you what you’re going to tell them. If they ask you questions know that if you do tell them that age and everything or if he’s with you or anything, they will take matters in their own hands.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: The abortion?

CALLER: The judicial thing.

CLINIC: No, that’s part of a service.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Would they have to tell my mom and dad or anybody that I was there for that?

CLINIC: No. No, they don’t. They do not need to. That is something that you do on your own like that’s why you’re going to them.

CALLER: Okay. So if my boyfriend didn’t come in I could get a pregnancy test there?

CLINIC: Right.

CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody anything?

CLINIC: Right.

CALLER: Okay. Well if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant could I get birth control though?

CLINIC: Right, absolutely you can get birth control.

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell anybody about that though?

CLINIC: No, don’t need to tell anybody about that. We are confidential about what we talk about to the point and what services we do give you. We don’t need permission for anybody to give you birth control or to do testing. Only your own permission.

CALLER: Okay. So you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about my boyfriend then?

CLINIC: Well, just hang on. I want to ask one question about that. Do you know what I want to do is take your name and phone number, okay? Can I do that? And call you back? I just want to clarify stuff for you, make sure.

CALLER: Okay. Well, can I call you back real quick? I just have to get my boyfriend’s cell phone number because that’s the one that he wanted to use, but I can’t — I don’t remember what it is right now.

CLINIC: Okay. Yeah. You can call me back. I’m just going to verify some things before I tell you because I don’t want to tell you anything that I’m not sure of. So why don’t you give me a call back in about 10 minutes, okay?

CALLER: All right. So what was your name so I can call you back?

CLINIC: My name is Carrie, C-A-R-R-I-E. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: Thank you. Bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Val Phillips Center. This is Deb.

CALLER: Hi. Is Carrie there?

CLINIC: She is. Can I tell her who’s calling?

CALLER: It’s Christine.

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on, Christine.

CLINIC: Hello, this is Carrie. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi, yeah. I was talking to you earlier about –

CLINIC: Right. I know. I left a message with my administration, and I’m just waiting to hear back from them for the current, you know, updated things about what the issues are and everything. So I tried, I called a couple people but they were gone at lunch. But they’re going to get back to me.

CALLER: Okay. When would be –

CLINIC: They should be back to me shortly. If they don’t call me by 1:30 I’m going to call them again and then if you want to you can either call me back at 2:00 or I can call you back.

CALLER: Well, I should probably call you –

CLINIC: You want to call me?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: At 2:00?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Because we’re open until 6;00 if you’d want to come in and get some testing and stuff.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just, I don’t want my boyfriend to get in trouble if I came in. So.

CLINIC: Right. Either do I.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: I mean, I want what you want to a point, but I also want what’s healthy, okay? And I want to do what’s right. That’s why I want to let you know the facts, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay, and what is your name, Christi?

CALLER: Christine.

CLINIC: Right. Okay. Then just give me a call back and ask for Carrie. Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Thanks.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

(phone clicks)

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Val Phillips. This is Deb.

CALLER: Hi. Is Carrie there?

CLINIC: She is. Can I tell her who’s calling?

CALLER: It’s Christine.

CLINIC: Hi there. This is Carrie.

CALLER: Hi.

CLINIC: Yeah. I talked to the administration. Basically you know, I’m just can give general information with the phones for like I said was if any client comes in to any of our Planned Parenthoods, abortion clinics, whatever, and somebody tells us they’re 13 and their partner is — the person says they’re one age and then a partner of a different age, depending on the law or what age you are we have to, we are liable as healthcare providers, to report to a specific agency. So that’s anywhere you go. But that’s all the general information –

CALLER: Well, what does all that mean?

CLINIC: What?

CALLER: What does all that mean?

CLINIC: It just means that if you go in to any other Planned Parenthood or anyplace or health place, especially the state-funded and everything, anyplace even private healthcare provider has to by law report if there is a minor with somebody that is not a minor. So if you tell of if any client mentions this, that person would have to under law contact authorities.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: If that is not known, then that’s not known.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: That’s what matters, you know? So that’s basically — and that’s the only general information –

CALLER: So if I don’t say anything about it it will be all right?

CLINIC: Well, I can’t say that either. Like I’m not supposed to say anything about that. But I think you got the picture, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Well, if I come in for a pregnancy test and it came out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Of course you could. Definitely. So I would call a place that doesn’t know you or first name or name.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You know where you’re close to? I can refer you to one?

CALLER: Well, I’m just in Milwaukee here, so.

CLINIC: Okay. Do you know where all the clinics are?

CALLER: Yeah. I got, my boyfriend gave me a list of them to call, so.

CLINIC: Okay. Because of our discussion I would be — you know. You can call –

CALLER: So I should go someplace else then?

CLINIC: I’m not trying to say that, but (laughs). I’m not denying, but you know, since I know what I know I’m just telling you what I generally would have to do.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? Does that make sense?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: But I definitely want you to get service, okay?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: But there’s a good 10 other clinics too.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: I hope I helped. Do you have any other questions?

CALLER: No. I don’t think so.

CLINIC: Okay. Okay. You take care, and good luck to you, and yeah. I hope everything goes okay. Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: Okay. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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