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#848 – Auroura Medical Services in Seattle, WA

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AUROURA MEDICAL SERVICES
1207 N. 300TH SL # 214
SEATTLE, WA 98133
206-546-8891

Tape – 848

(Dialing) (1 ring)

CLINIC: Aurora Medical Services this is Lori.

CALLER: Hi, yeah, I call to see if, umm, you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Yeah, we do them Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: It depends on, umm, a bunch of things. Do you have insurance?

CALLER: Well, no. My boyfriend said he would pay for everything.

CLINIC: Umm, do you make any money?

CALLER: Well, no. Well the thing is, umm, I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to, umm, tell my parents about all this, but my boyfriend’s 22 is he old enough to take care of it and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody? He said he’d pay cash for everything.

CLINIC: No, I know. I’m just, umm, saying because you could actually probably
qualify for medical coupons–

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: –through the Department of Social and Health Services.

CALLER: But would they have to tell anybody if I was there for that?

CLINIC: No, no. They wouldn’t tell anyone. I mean, you can keep it confidential, if you need to keep it, umm–

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Do you know when you last menstrual period was?

CALLER: Umm, it was like February 3rd.

CLINIC: February 3rd? My birthday. Hang on a second, I’m gonna just see how exactly how far you’d be.

CALLER: Oh, I mean January 3rd. I’m sorry.

CLINIC: Its January 3rd?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. Umm, okay, so, right now you’re between 11 and 12 weeks. So you’re almost 12 weeks actually. Umm, so you probably would want to get this done as soon as possible, because the longer you wait now, the abortion actually changes the kind of procedure they use. Umm, it actually changes at–

CALLER: Well, is there any minimum age to get an abortion, or ?

CLINIC: Oh, let me find out. Hold on a second, okay?

(music)

CLINIC: Yeah, there’s no parental consent for any age here in Washington state.

CALLER: ‘Cause I’ll be 14 April 4th. So, that would be alright?

CLINIC: Yeah, I mean there’s no age of consent here.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So, you don’t have to worry about that. Umm-

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: –but, as far as getting it paid for, umm–

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend’s 22, he has a job, is that alright? He can take of it?

CLINIC: I mean, it’s fine if he wants to – what I’m saying is that its real – its pretty expensive. So, umm–

CALLER: Well, how much?

CLINIC: Well, because, umm, you’re – you would be getting a discount, because you don’t make any money, it would be 511 dollars for up to 12 weeks.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But if you pass 12 weeks, then it would be – it would get more and more expensive.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So, umm, that would be 650 dollars between 13 and 14 weeks, and after that, it would become a two day procedure, and that would be 893 dollars, okay?

CALLER: Okay, so, well, its just- me and my boyfriend were talking about all this, and we didn’t want anyone to know about us. If he was paying for it all, would he have to sign anything, or have his name on any forms?

CLINIC: Umm, well, not if it was cash–

CALLER: Okay

CLINIC: –you know, but I mean, you would have your name on everything.

CALLER: Alright.

CLINIC: I mean, well, what this really – what I’m saying is that, I mean, he can pay for it all in cash, but to me it makes more sense that you would just go and get these coupons from the government and –

CALLER: Oh. But we don’t want anyone to know about us, so-

CLINIC: Well, no one would know except for, you know, the state government and you. Unless, I mean, and if you told them not to send the coupon to your home, then they shouldn’t do that.

CALLER: But would the state government have to say anything about me and my boyfriend, or anything? Like how old he is or anything?

CLINIC: Oh, I see what you’re saying. Right. Because that’s legally – no that’s illegal

CALLER: Why?

CLINIC: What I’m saying is–

CALLER: We just don’t want anyone to know about us. Why is it illegal?

CLINIC: Oh, its illegal because that’s considered statutory rape. (unclear)

CALLER: What!? He’s not raping me. I mean – we’re in love, we’re going to get married. He’s going to take care of me forever.

CLINIC: No, don’t freak out or anything. I’m not trying to criticize or whatever, but legally in the eyes of the government I’m pretty sure that’s considered statutory rape.

CALLER: Well, what could happen.

CLINIC: Umm, What could happen for him? Like, I mean, nothing unless somebody prosecuted him. So, its just –

CALLER: Would you guys?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: So, it’d be okay if he came in and you guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody, or get him in trouble or anything.

CLINIC: I don’t think so. I really don’t believe so, its just that your confidentiality is totally held very, very private here. Okay?

CALLER: Oh, alright.

CLINIC: Umm.

CALLER: Well, I haven’t taken a pregnancy test yet. Would you guys do that beforehand just to make sure.

CLINIC: Umm. We would like you to actually do one first. Umm, how do you know that your pregnant if you haven’t had a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Well, I just haven’t had my period for a long time and I’m scared.

CLINIC: Okay. I need you to take a pregnancy test first.

CALLER: So do I come in there for that?

CLINIC: You could come in here and do one. That’s fine. Where do you live?

CALLER: Umm, I live in Seattle.

CLINIC: Like in downtown Seattle?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Umm, then I would say that you could go to, I mean, any doctor’s office and get one, or you could even take one from the store.

CALLER: Oh, are those usually right though?

CLINIC: Yeah, they’re pretty accurate if you just follow the directions properly. But if you’re worried about it then I would say go to Planned Parenthood or something.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: There’s a couple of – in downtown that you could go to and –

CALLER: Oh, would they have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Well, you don’t tell them anything. All you tell them is that you want a pregnancy test and they do it for free.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Umm, where do you live in Seattle.

CALLER: Umm, I live with a friend of mine right now, so.

CLINIC: Like, how – but, where?

CALLER: I’m not really sure. I’m just visiting like for like- but I’m from Yukama, and I’m just visiting her ’cause – well, she told me about you guys and stuff, so..

CLINIC: Oh, okay. Umm, mmm. So this is a tough situation. Umm, how – is your friend have a car or something?

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend does.

CLINIC: Oh, okay.

CALLER: Its just she -she has been through all this before so.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. Umm, cause like, umm, you could get one over the counter, like a test, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And if you don’t want to deal with the government at all. Umm, I mean, that’s just the best situtation.

CALLER: That’s what my boyfriend said, so.

CLINIC: He doesn’t want to deal with that at all?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: Okay, then I would say you should just go get an over-the-counter test to make sure you’re pregnant, first of all. Umm, and – and if that is negative or something, then I would go to a Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And there’s one right downtown. Umm, and you can just get a test done. Are you downtown in Seattle? That’s – well, what I’m asking is you could you come here or do you just want to do it downtown? What’s good for you?

CALLER: Well, she told me to call you guys and talk to you guys and go there. So –

CLINIC: Okay, so can you tell me like where your address is and then I could what would be closer for you to do.

CALLER: Well, I don’t really want to tell you my address. It’s just, I’m at her house and if, like, you guys send us anything it would like be to her family- I’m not on the address, or – I’m not usually here to get mail or anything.

CLINIC: Oh, I wouldn’t send you anything. I mean, well, another thing is this, like, I’m not trying to scare you away from anything. No one is going to divulge your confidentiality here, okay? First of all, I want you to know that, okay? Umm, but they do need, like, umm, an address in case of needing to, umm, send information to you somehow.

CALLER: Well, umm, could I give you my boyfriend’s address?

CLINIC: Yep, you totally could do that, and its also for emergency stuff, they need an emergency contact, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So you need to be comfortable about divulging that kind of information, okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, let me call my boyfriend and see, but I was also wondering, umm, if it came out that I wasn’t pregnant after I do like the home pregnancy test, would I be able to get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: Yeah, totally.

CALLER: Its just that we don’t want to have to worry about all this again.

CLINIC: Yeah, definitely. I mean, you could even do that after you have your procedure. Umm, so you can come here and have a pregnancy test, or you can do it if your downtown in Seattle, do it downtown. I mean, its really just kind of dependent on where you live where would be most convenient for you. Or, you could just get one over the counter, and then, so that’s your first step, make sure that you’re definitely pregnant. Do you feel any symptoms of pregnancy?

CALLER: What do you mean?

CLINIC: Do you – have you – can you – well, if you’d be at 12 weeks right now you might be feeling, like, that you’re gaining weight, but you may not be showing at all. I mean, you probably would be showing a little bit in your belly area, but have you had any breast tenderness?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Have you had any nausea or vomiting?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: No? Okay. Have you bled or had any cramping or anything like that in the past two months?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: In the last 2 or 3 months – No? Okay. I mean, you could very well not be having those symptoms, but, umm, but it’s a good idea to take a pregnancy test first, okay. Before you start freaking out over everything. But you should – if its negative, you could surely come here and get birth control too.

CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No, not at all.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Not at all.

CALLER: And you’re sure nobody has to know about any of this.

CLINIC: Yep! We have patients here that are underage all the time.

CALLER: Okay. I just wish I could talk to my mom like I talk to you.

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Umm, I need to call my boyfriend and see, but what was your name so I
could–

CLINIC: My name’s Lori. So if you want to us just,umm, figure out how you’re going to do that and see where you are located. If you want to come here, you can come here and get a pregnancy test done. Or —

CALLER: What are your hours?

CLINIC: Today we are actually open until probably around, umm, 7:30. But, usually we’re only open until around 5:30. Like Mondays and –

CALLER: So, if I came in today I could get it done and that would be–

CLINIC: Oh, what, a pregnancy test?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Yeah. You could totally do it today. Umm, the abortion, the times we schedule are Thurs- or Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. Because of where you’re at, and supposely, because we don’t know first of all where you’re at in your pregnancy, like if it is your last menstrual period was on January 3rd, then that would make you at 12 weeks. Umm, so we would need to schedule you probably, umm, on a Thursday or Friday, just because, umm, of not really knowing, and not being that confident, case, you know, you would have to come back in and do a two-day procedure, or if you needed to do a two-day procedure.

CALLER: Okay. Just as long as nobody has to know.

CLINIC: Yeah! No nobody will have to know about anything. Confidentiality is totally maintained here, okay? So don’t be afraid of all that.

CALLER: Yeah, I feel a lot better.

CLINIC: Yeah. Umm, its totally legal for you to have all this stuff done at your free will, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Umm, so why don’t you figure out how you’re going to do the pregnancy test, first. Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And then give me a call back, and, umm, and we’ll figure out from there. Okay?

CALLER: Alright, thank you.

CLINIC: Okay, you’re welcome. Bye, bye.

CALLER: Bye.

#812 – Planned Parenthood Of Spokane & Whitman Counties in Spokane, WA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF SPOKANE & WHITMAN COUNTIES
123 E. INDIANA AVE.
SPOKANE, WA 99205
509-326-2142

TAPE – 812

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

RECORDING: Hello. You have reached Planned Parenthood. If you know the extension number of the person you are calling, please enter that extension number now. To reach the scheduling desk, press 4. You can press zero or stay on the line for further assistance.

Our regular clinic hours are Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. (Dial button pressed 1x).

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Rene. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I can barely hear you. Can you talk a little louder?

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Oh, that’s better. I was actually calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Do you know how much it cost for that?

CLINIC: 450 or 550.

CALLER: What’s the difference?

CLINIC: How far along you are.

CALLER: How do you know?

CLINIC: If it’s more than 11 weeks and 6 days, it’s the higher amount.

CALLER: Well, I’m not really sure. I just haven’t had my period since January 3rd.

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: So do you know?

CLINIC: Well, let me have you talk with someone in the back. Just a moment, please.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Vicky (sp). May I help you?

CALLER: What was your name again?

CLINIC: Vicky (sp).

CALLER: Oh, okay. I was calling to ask some questions about getting an abortion. And the other lady I talked to said there was a price difference for how far you are, but I don’t know how far I am. And my last period was January 3rd. So I was wondering.

CLINIC: Okay. Hang on just one second. January 3rd was the first day of your last period?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: Today is March 8th. So today, you’re nine weeks.

CALLER: Okay. So how much would it cost then?

CLINIC: 450. Where do yo live?

CALLER: I live in Spokane.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, you can apply for medical coupons. How old are you?

CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 later on this month. That was another one of my questions. My friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is that old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Well, we don’t tell anybody.

CALLER: All right. I was just kind of worried about that.

CLINIC: You can apply for emergency medical coupons through the Department of Health and Social Services.

CALLER: Well, would they have to tell my parents though?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, all right.

CLINIC: You just tell them you don’t want your parents to know.

CALLER: Do you do the pregnancy test there?

CLINIC: You haven’t had one yet?

CALLER: Well, no. I just haven’t had my period in a long time, and I’m just really scared.

CLINIC: Yeah, I don’t blame you. Why don’t you come in this afternoon. Can you come in?

CALLER: How late are you guys open today?

CLINIC: Until 6.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my boyfriend gets off of work at 5. How long does it take to take the pregnancy?

CLINIC: Well, it doesn’t take long. It just depends how many people are ahead of you. But we’re going to see you for sure. And you have to wait for him to bring you; is that the deal?

CALLER: Yeah. He’d be the only way I could get there because I’m not old enough to drive yet.

CLINIC: Okay. Just come as quickly as you can, okay?

CALLER: Well, if turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: Oh, yeah.

CALLER: It’s just that we don’t want to worry about all this again.

CLINIC: Well, yeah, that would be a good idea.

CALLER: So how much does it cost to get birth control?

CLINIC: Well, don’t worry about that. Let’s do this first.

CALLER: Okay. But would you have to tell anybody if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No, honey. We don’t tell anybody anything.

CALLER: Okay. All right.

CLINIC: What’s your name?

CALLER: Lisa.

CLINIC: Lisa what?

CALLER: Carter.

CLINIC: And what’s your date of birth?

CALLER: March 19, 1988.

CLINIC: When you come in, ask for Penny.

CALLER: Are you Penny?

CLINIC: No, but I’m going to tell her that you’re coming.

CALLER: Oh, that’s right. You’re Vicky. I’m sorry.

CLINIC: I am. She can see you right when you get here, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And you thought your last period was when?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: Okay. All right, hon.

CALLER: Okay. Thank you.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye.

***END***

#672 – Aradia Women’s Health Center in Seattle, WA

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ARADIA WOMEN’S HEALTH CENTER
1300 SPRING ST.
SEATTLE, WA 98104
206-323-9388

TAPE – 672

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Aradia Women’s Health Center. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yeah, we do.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: It’s based on your monthly or yearly income on a discounted fee schedule. Can you estimate for me how much you make?

CALLER: Well, I don’t have a job.

CLINIC: Okay. So then the other thing it’s based on is whether you’re in your first or second trimester. First trimester is under 12 weeks, and second trimester is over 12 weeks. Do you know if you might be under 12 weeks?

CALLER: I don’t know. I just know my last period is like January 3rd, and that’s why I’m like worried about all this.

CLINIC: Okay. So the first day of your last period was January 3rd?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay, yeah. So you’re definitely still in your first trimester at this point. It looks like if we’re counting from that day probably about eight weeks and three days or so. So on that case the fee would be 475. That’s our lowest discounted fee. And that is due at the time of service. We don’t do payment plans.

CALLER: Oh, okay. The thing is, I’m going to be 14 on the 20th, and my friend said you guys would have to tell my parents.

CLINIC: No, that’s not true.

CALLER: But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of it?

CLINIC: He doesn’t need to do anything. We don’t need to tell your parents at all. They don’t need to be involved.

CALLER: But does anybody have to know about me and my boyfriend though?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: No. Your parents don’t need to be involved at all.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: One thing you might want to look into is the money might be hard for you to come up with —

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything. I mean, he’s 22. He’s got a job and everything.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: So I’m not really worried about that. I’m just worried about someone finding out.

CLINIC: No. We don’t need to talk to your parents at all. They don’t need to give their consent or anything. It’s just all your consent.

CALLER: Would you have to tell anyone besides my parents?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay. It’s just we don’t want anybody to know about us. So if he was paying for everything would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: Well, if he was paying with a credit card, he would have to sign the credit card slip. But if he was paying with cash, no. If he wanted to be with you during the actual procedure, he would need to sign a consent form.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: But that’s only if he wants to be with you during the surgery.

CALLER: Well, could he just stay in the lobby or whatever?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Yeah.

CALLER: Oh, okay. And that’s all right?

CALLER: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Do you think that there would be any way that I’m not pregnant?

CLINIC: Are your periods usually pretty normal?

CALLER: Well, usually, but I haven’t had them that long, so I don’t know.

CLINIC: Have you done a pregnancy test yet?

CALLER: Well, no.

CLINIC: No? Okay. It’s very possible — are you having any symptoms? Are you nauseous? Are your breasts tender? Are you more tired than normal?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: No? It’s possible that you might be having irregular periods, and you might not be pregnant. Did you want to come in for a pregnancy test?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. What part of town do you live in?

CALLER: I live in Princeton.

CLINIC: Where’s that?

CALLER: It’s like east of where you’re at.

CLINIC: Oh, okay.

CALLER: If I took the pregnancy test and it came out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Yeah. We would need to make a different appointment for that probably.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody about that though, if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: Nope. We don’t need to talk to anybody but you about anything that goes on here.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, I just have a lot of questions, but I need to talk to my boyfriend and see. Could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Anitra.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Yeah. You can talk to me or you can talk to anybody who answers the phone. But yeah, you can ask for me if you want.

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

***END***

#673 – Planned Parenthood in Sunnyside, WA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1616 GREGORY AVENUE EXT.
SUNNYSIDE, WA 98944-1651
509-837-6979

TAPE – 673

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Socorro. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: We don’t do them here, but our Tri-City office does. And we also refer out to Yakima.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you have the number for the one in Yakkamaw?

CLINIC: Um-hmm. You may need a referral first.

CALLER: Okay. What is that?

CLINIC: We need to take a pregnancy test and write out a referral slip.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So I can come there for that?

CLINIC: Yes. We also (unclear).

CALLER: I’m just kind of worried. I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about it anything?

CLINIC: You’re 14?

CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 later on this month.

CLINIC: You’ll be 14? No, everything’s confidential.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Do you want to come in tomorrow at 2?

CALLER: Well I’d have to call my boyfriend to see, but maybe.

CLINIC: If you can’t make it at 2, you can go ahead and come in anyway at 2 or 3.

CALLER: I can barely here you. Can you speak up?

CLINIC: We have teen clinic tomorrow. And we’re going to start at 2:00. What we’re going to do is we’re going to get you the pregnancy test and get you the referrals that you need.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, uh-huh.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No. It’s completely confidential.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: So go ahead and come on in. Teen clinic is from 2 to 5:30.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if I had any other questions — I’m just really confused about all this — could I call and talk to you? What was your name again?

CLINIC: My name is Socorro.

CALLER: How do you spell that?

CLINIC: S-o-c-o-r-r-o.

CALLER: Okay. And tomorrow after 3?

CLINIC: Yeah. From 2 to 5:30.

CALLER: All right. Thank you.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Bye.

***END***

#670 – A Woman’s Choice Clinic / Cascade Family Planning (office Of Dr. D.w. Williamson) in Lakewood, WA

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A WOMAN’S CHOICE CLINIC / CASCADE FAMILY PLANNING (OFFICE OF DR. D.W. WILLIAMSON)
7509 CUSTER RD. W
LAKEWOOD, WA 98467
253-473-6031

TAPE – 670

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: A Woman’s Choice Clinic. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does that cost?

CLINIC: Do you know how far along you are?

CALLER: Well, no.

CLINIC: Do you know the first day of your last period?

CALLER: It was January 3rd.

CLINIC: As long as you are under 12 weeks, you make less than $30,000 and you’re by yourself —

CALLER: Well, I don’t have a job.

CLINIC: It will be $450 on our sliding fee scale. The normal price is $1275.

CALLER: Okay. The main reason why I’m worried is because I’m going to be 14 on the 20th, and my friend said you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: You’re saying you’re 14 years old?

CALLER: Yeah. Well, I’ll be 14 on the 20th.

CLINIC: We don’t have to tell your parents because you live in Washington State.

CALLER: So I don’t have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You live in Washington?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: There’s no informed consent that you need in the state of Washington.

CALLER: Well, my friend said you guys would have to know that my boyfriend is 22 as well. Does that make any difference?

CLINIC: We write it down in your chart, yeah. Was the sex consensual?

CALLER: Yeah. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married, and he’s going to take care of me forever. It’s just we’re not married yet, so we don’t want to have a baby right now.

CLINIC: Right. They would just write it in your chart, hon, because you have to write down all that stuff.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Would you guys do a pregnancy test first to make sure?

CLINIC: We do an ultra sound.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: If you make an appointment for an abortion procedure, we do an ultra sound first. Then you have some lab work, and then you have a counseling session before the actual procedure.

CALLER: Do you think it’s possible I’m not pregnant?

CLINIC: It’s entirely possible.

CALLER: The main reason why I’m worried is because I haven’t had my period since January 3rd. I haven’t done a pregnancy test yet or anything.

CLINIC: Yeah. If you want, you can either go get a home pregnancy, or you could come into one of the clinics, or even Planned Parenthood, or someplace and take a pregnancy test, because you want to find out for sure.

CALLER: Well, could I come in there then?

CLINIC: Sure. What city do you live in?

CALLER: I live in Parkland.

CLINIC: Where’s that at?

CALLER: It’s south of where you’re at.

CLINIC: All three of the clinics are tied together. Actually you’re talking to somebody in Yakima right now. And so we’re over the mountain. So you’re probably not 20 minutes from me. And I need to know which of the two other clinics that you were —

CALLER: Well, I was actually wanting to go to where you at so people I know don’t see me.

CLINIC: You want to come to Yakkamaw?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Oh, okay.

CALLER: And my boyfriend gave me this number. We were talking about all this. He said he would pay for everything. We just don’t want a whole bunch of people to — like we don’t want anyone to know about us, so we wanted to go there.

CLINIC: Right.

CALLER: Would you guys have to tell anybody about us?

CLINIC: We would have to write it in your chart.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Do your parents know that you date him?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: And he’s that old and stuff?

CALLER: Yeah. They know him. He works with my dad, and they know we’re going out. It’s just they don’t know we’re having sex. If they knew we were having sex I don’t know what they would do. They just can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: Right. Okay. So you want to come to Yakkamaw and —

CALLER: And get a pregnancy test first I guess.

CLINIC: Where do you live right now?

CALLER: I’m in Parkland.

CLINIC: Parkland?

CALLER: Yeah. It’s south of Tacoma.

CLINIC: So you’re going to drive two hours here for a pregnancy test?

CALLER: Well, I just don’t want anybody to know me. That’s where my boyfriend wanted to go.

CLINIC: Right. All I’m saying is you should probably have a pregnancy test first and make sure that you’re pregnant before you have to drive two hours.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Is there anyplace in Tacoma that you know of?

CLINIC: Actually, there’s a good place. It’s called the Cascade Family Planning. And they are at 7509 Custer Road. And that’s Tacoma, 98499. Do you wane me to make you an appointment for there?

CALLER: Well, I don’t know. I’d have to call my boyfriend to see. But do you know if I wasn’t pregnant if I could get birth control?

CLINIC: Yeah. And they would give it to you.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Would they have to know about anything or tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. They would have a nurse practitioner give you a pap smear and stuff, and then she would just make sure that you’re okay; you don’t have any weird spells or anything. And then she would give you some birth control pills or Depo or Levonelle.

CALLER: And they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. Nobody needs to know what kind of birth control you use.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, if I had any other questions, could I call you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Lisa.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And let me give you the number for Cascade. They won’t be answering the phones until probably after 3 today. But their phone number is 1-800-822-7857.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Thank you.

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#671 – Eastside Women’s Health Clinic in Olympia, WA

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EASTSIDE WOMEN’S HEALTH CLINIC
1100 EASTSIDE ST.
OLYMPIA, WA 98501
360-943-5127

TAPE – 671

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Eastside Women’s Health.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does that cost?

CLINIC: Well, if you’re under 12 weeks the cost for a pre-exam is between 90 and $105. The procedure cost is 380. And then you’re billed separately for your lab work which is around $20 for blood work.

CALLER: Okay. The thing is, I’m going to be 14 on the 20th, and my friend said you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Not in the state of Washington, you don’t have to inform your parents.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Really.

CALLER: So my boyfriend could be there with me and it be all right?

CLINIC: Oh, yeah. That’s fine. Have you had a pregnancy test done anywhere?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Are you here in Olympia?

CALLER: I live in Lacey.

CLINIC: Okay. You can come down to our office. And if you can do a urine sample for us we can give you a confirmation of pregnancy. And you can apply by phone for DSHS. It will pay for all your medical here.

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything. But the thing is, we don’t want anyone to know about us. So if he was paying for it all, would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: No. Nobody’s going to tell anybody anything.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: But if you didn’t have the money you can apply for the state in your own right for medical due to pregnancy.

CALLER: Well, he’s 22. He has a job and everything.

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: He said he would take care of everything.

CLINIC: That’s fine. So what is it you need now at this point in time? What do you want to do?

CALLER: I just have to call and see when I can come in basically.

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on one second.

(Long pause)

CLINIC: Are you still there?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: I’m sorry to keep you holding for so long. Can you tell me the first day of your last menstrual cycle?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: January 3rd. Today’s the 4th. You’d be under five weeks, so you wouldn’t be eligible for a surgical procedure. You would be eligible for a medical procedure if you’re right. The cost is different. It’s $590, and that includes lab fees.

CALLER: Well, do you know if there’s any way I couldn’t be pregnant?

CLINIC: Do I know what now?

CALLER: Is there any way that I’m not pregnant?

CLINIC: You don’t have sex.

CALLER: Well, no. Like I haven’t had my period for a long time. Is there any way that I’m not pregnant?

CLINIC: Well, it hasn’t been that long. You said January 1st was your last period, right?

CALLER: January 3rd, yeah.

CLINIC: January 3rd. Yeah. So it hasn’t been that long.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You would be under five weeks.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, I could come in there for birth control — could you guys do a pregnancy test and make sure?

CLINIC: You can walk in and do a free pregnancy test.

CALLER: And if it came out that I wasn’t pregnant, could you guys do birth control?

CLINIC: You’d have to make an appointment to do that.

CALLER: But would anybody have to know if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: Nope, only you. Believe me that’s at anyplace you go to in the state of Washington. It’s all confidential. Okay? So don’t stress about that.

CALLER: Okay. I just have so many questions, I don’t know. If I thought of anything else could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Candace (sp).

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Yep, that’s fine.

CALLER: So when do you guys ordinarily do pregnancy tests there?

CLINIC: You can walk in anytime, and we close at 4:30 today. We’re closed from 12 to 1 for lunch. The only days that we can’t do it is on Thursdays. That’s our surgery day. Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Good luck.

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

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#666 – Planned Parenthood in Ellenburg, WA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
312 N. PINE ST.
ELLENBURG, WA 98926-3366
509-925-7113

TAPE – 666

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: We do not.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know of anybody that does?

CLINIC: Yes, but I can’t give that information out over the phone.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You would need to come in.

CALLER: Okay. I’m just really worried because I can’t tell my parents at all. I’m going to be 14 on the 20th, and my friend said that I would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could I just have him sign whatever it is, and you wouldn’t have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: That’s correct.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: What we need to do is do a pregnancy test, because you have to have proof of pregnancy.

CALLER: Oh, okay. How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: It’s not going to. I just need to find a place to put you.

CALLER: Well, my last period was like January 3rd. Do you think that there would be any way that I wasn’t pregnant?

CLINIC: Oh, there’s always the chance. Were you using birth control?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Let’s see.

CALLER: Well, if I came in there for a pregnancy test, would I be able to — say that I wasn’t pregnant. Would I be able to get birth control there too?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: Nope.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Nope, nope. I’m just trying to find an appointment date.

CALLER: Okay. But nobody has to know about my boyfriend either?

CLINIC: Nope.

CALLER: It’s just my friend said you guys would have to tell.

CLINIC: When you come in don’t tell me about your boyfriend.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: If you tell me, then yes we have to report it because of the age.

CALLER: But he was going to pay for everything.

CLINIC: There probably isn’t any cost.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: So when you come in the best thing for you to do is just not tell me or anyone here. If you do say that and it does get recorded, then yes we do have to report that because of the age. Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: My problem is that I am just so full this week. Can you come at 9:15 tomorrow morning?

CALLER: I have to call my boyfriend and see. Is it okay if I call and call you back? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Patrick.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And we are gone for lunch here in a minute, between 12:30 and 1:30. So give me a call after 1:30.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#620 – Planned Parenthood in Shelton, WA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
310 W. BIRCH ST. # 4
SHELTON, WA 98584-1799
360-426-2933

TAPE – 620

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

RECORDING: Thank you for calling the Shelton Planned Parenthood. Please listen to all the (dial sound.) Please hold for the operator. (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Hello. Shelton Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we do not.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know of anybody that does?

CLINIC: We can refer you to Olympia or if you want to check in the phone directory.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you have the number for the one in Olympia?

CLINIC: No. Here, there two different places is Sound Choice or Eastside Women’s Health.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: All right. Well, do you know — I’m just worried because like I’m going to be 14 like later on this month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: What do you mean? To do termination?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: You need to call them and I don’t know (unclear) but you need to talk to them.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test just to see if I was pregnant?

CLINIC: Over here?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Yes. Uh-huh.

CALLER: But my boyfriend would have to bring me. Would that be all right if he was there with me?

CLINIC: It won’t be any problem.

CALLER: Oh. But would you have to tell anybody that I was getting a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: You mean we?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: No. We cannot. We don’t. It’s up to you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Okay. But would you have to tell anybody if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No. We don’t do those kind of things. Unless you wanted to talk to somebody and let us know you want some help, but that’s it.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: (unclear) confidentiality. So no, we don’t.

CALLER: Well, if I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: If I give you what?

CALLER: If I had any other questions? Could I talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: Actually you can talk to any of us here.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: We do the same thing, and we will say the same thing.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just, you’re just so nice, so I would just rather talk to you actually. So –

CLINIC: It’s not necessary. But if you want to come back here to come here it’s in Shelter and please come after 1:00.

CALLER: After 1:00?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thank you.

CLINIC: You’re welcome.

(phone clicks)

***THE END***

#621 – Planned Parenthood in Yakima, WA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
208 N. 3RD AVE
YAKIMA, WA 98902-2688
509-248-3625

TAPE – 621

(dialing sound) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Good afternoon. Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we do not.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know of anybody that does?

CLINIC: Here in Yakima Valley?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Have you had a pregnancy test that was done at a clinic yet?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Do you have proof of pregnancy?

CALLER: Well, I just haven’t had my period since like December 26. So I’m just worried about it.

CLINIC: Okay. There is a clinic here. There’s other providers, but you do need referrals for that in order for you to go in to have that done — if you are pregnant. But we can schedule an appointment for a pregnancy test if you’d like.

CALLER: Well, if I wasn’t pregnant could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: You sure can.

CALLER: Okay. But would you have to — it’s just, the thing is –

CLINIC: We would do the pregnancy test first.

CALLER: The thing is, I’m going to be 14 next month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of everything and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: We don’t — we are Planned Parenthood. We are strictly confidential. We don’t tell your parents.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Unless you want us to, but we don’t. Like say for instance your mom called to say, well my daughter was in there you know. I’m sorry. We can’t — you know. If she says, you know, can you look, or whatever, we cannot. We won’t tell anybody anything unless we have something in writing from you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okaying us, saying you can tell Dr. So and So what was done at my visit here with us. But unless we have written consent from you, we do not give any information out to anyone.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just me and my boyfriend were talking about all this, and he said that he was going to pay for everything, but we just don’t want anyone to know about us. So like if he was paying for it would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: Being that we don’t do the abortions here, we have — and being that you’re pregnant and you need, you want to have an abortion, we can give you referrals for like medical coupons.

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: And the medical coupon would pay for that service so your boyfriend wouldn’t have to pay for it. The state would.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So –

CALLER: But would the state have to, would the state know and have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. Not at all.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: No. Your parents don’t find out about that. Of course, when you come in if you do qualify for medical coupons then if you don’t — they’ll probably send them to you in the mail so one think you would want to remember is, don’t put the address, your home parents address. Put your boyfriend’s address.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: That way they go to his house and not to your house.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And you’re 14?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 on the 9th.

CLINIC: Okay. We do have Teen Clinic today. We see 19 and younger every Friday between 1 and 5. You’re more than welcome to come in today on a walk-in basis, and we can do a pregnancy test and then give you any referral or numbers that you may need for whatever choice you decide.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And we are strictly confidential. Let me mention that again.

CALLER: Okay. If it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant and I was on birth control — it’s just the thing is I’m not old enough to drive yet. Could my boyfriend pick up the pills?

CLINIC: When you come in, you fill out a form, and then on the form it asks you, an alternate person like say for instance you can’t come in, you want to put him on there to pick up pills for you, then if you put it on there then, yes, he can come.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: We’re here between 1 and 5. And the sooner you get here the better it is because sometimes we get busy but sometimes we’re not. But the sooner that you can get here to be seen we’ll be able to see you for whatever visit you have today.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: I just wish I could talk to my mom like I talk to you.

CLINIC: Ohh. I’m sorry. You know, I wish you could. You know, it’s hard I know. Parents just can’t understand. But I don’t know. But you know, if you ever have any questions whether you come here or not in the future, you’re more than welcome to call and we always have counselors that are — we’re always willing to help even if you wanted a phone number for Safeway we’d be able to give that to you. We don’t — you know. You know, don’t — if you ever feel that you need to speak to someone you can always call and talk to someone here. You don’t even need to come in person. You can call on the phone.

CALLER: Could I call and talk to you if I thought of anything else?

CLINIC: Oh, sure.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Adella.a

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: Okay? You’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

(phone clicks)

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#622 – Planned Parenthood in Pullman, WA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1125 NW NYE ST
PULLMAN, WA 99163-3430
509-334-1525

TAPE – 622

(dialing sound) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Sara.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering. Do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Not here. We get you set up for them. They do the actual procedures in Spokane.

CALLER: Okay. Do you know if they would — it’s just I’m worried because like I’m going to be 14 later on this month and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: We are strictly confidential.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: We would never say anything to anybody if you didn’t want us to.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: No, never. (laughs) It’s your choice and it’s up to you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: It’s just, the main reason why I’m worried about all this is because like I haven’t had my period since like December 26, and I’m scared. So.

CLINIC: So do you know that you are?

CALLER: Well, no. I just haven’t had my period for awhile.

CLINIC: Okay. So December 26. Okay, hang on. Today is March 1. Yeah, that puts you at 9.5 weeks.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: If you were. So my– what I would do, come in and take a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? So you know.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: They’re $12 here.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything, so.

CLINIC: Oh, good. Then come in here, take a test, and then if you are we can make you an appointment if that’s where you want to go.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: We could talk to you about it and get you set up for it, sure.

CALLER: Okay. And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about that though?

CLINIC: No, honey. We are strictly confidential, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: We don’t say anything if you don’t want us to.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Well, the thing is, I can’t drive yet. But would my boyfriend be able to pick up the pills?

CLINIC: If you wrote a note stating that he could, yes. You would have to come in first because we’d have to see you.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. What time do you normally do the pregnancy tests?

CLINIC: You can walk in for that any time. We close at 5:00.

CALLER: You close at 5:00 today?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: How long does the test take?

CLINIC: 15 minutes.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

(phone clicks)

***THE END***