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#848 – Auroura Medical Services in Seattle, WA

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AUROURA MEDICAL SERVICES
1207 N. 300TH SL # 214
SEATTLE, WA 98133
206-546-8891

Tape – 848

(Dialing) (1 ring)

CLINIC: Aurora Medical Services this is Lori.

CALLER: Hi, yeah, I call to see if, umm, you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Yeah, we do them Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: It depends on, umm, a bunch of things. Do you have insurance?

CALLER: Well, no. My boyfriend said he would pay for everything.

CLINIC: Umm, do you make any money?

CALLER: Well, no. Well the thing is, umm, I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to, umm, tell my parents about all this, but my boyfriend’s 22 is he old enough to take care of it and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody? He said he’d pay cash for everything.

CLINIC: No, I know. I’m just, umm, saying because you could actually probably
qualify for medical coupons–

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: –through the Department of Social and Health Services.

CALLER: But would they have to tell anybody if I was there for that?

CLINIC: No, no. They wouldn’t tell anyone. I mean, you can keep it confidential, if you need to keep it, umm–

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Do you know when you last menstrual period was?

CALLER: Umm, it was like February 3rd.

CLINIC: February 3rd? My birthday. Hang on a second, I’m gonna just see how exactly how far you’d be.

CALLER: Oh, I mean January 3rd. I’m sorry.

CLINIC: Its January 3rd?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. Umm, okay, so, right now you’re between 11 and 12 weeks. So you’re almost 12 weeks actually. Umm, so you probably would want to get this done as soon as possible, because the longer you wait now, the abortion actually changes the kind of procedure they use. Umm, it actually changes at–

CALLER: Well, is there any minimum age to get an abortion, or ?

CLINIC: Oh, let me find out. Hold on a second, okay?

(music)

CLINIC: Yeah, there’s no parental consent for any age here in Washington state.

CALLER: ‘Cause I’ll be 14 April 4th. So, that would be alright?

CLINIC: Yeah, I mean there’s no age of consent here.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So, you don’t have to worry about that. Umm-

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: –but, as far as getting it paid for, umm–

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend’s 22, he has a job, is that alright? He can take of it?

CLINIC: I mean, it’s fine if he wants to – what I’m saying is that its real – its pretty expensive. So, umm–

CALLER: Well, how much?

CLINIC: Well, because, umm, you’re – you would be getting a discount, because you don’t make any money, it would be 511 dollars for up to 12 weeks.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But if you pass 12 weeks, then it would be – it would get more and more expensive.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So, umm, that would be 650 dollars between 13 and 14 weeks, and after that, it would become a two day procedure, and that would be 893 dollars, okay?

CALLER: Okay, so, well, its just- me and my boyfriend were talking about all this, and we didn’t want anyone to know about us. If he was paying for it all, would he have to sign anything, or have his name on any forms?

CLINIC: Umm, well, not if it was cash–

CALLER: Okay

CLINIC: –you know, but I mean, you would have your name on everything.

CALLER: Alright.

CLINIC: I mean, well, what this really – what I’m saying is that, I mean, he can pay for it all in cash, but to me it makes more sense that you would just go and get these coupons from the government and –

CALLER: Oh. But we don’t want anyone to know about us, so-

CLINIC: Well, no one would know except for, you know, the state government and you. Unless, I mean, and if you told them not to send the coupon to your home, then they shouldn’t do that.

CALLER: But would the state government have to say anything about me and my boyfriend, or anything? Like how old he is or anything?

CLINIC: Oh, I see what you’re saying. Right. Because that’s legally – no that’s illegal

CALLER: Why?

CLINIC: What I’m saying is–

CALLER: We just don’t want anyone to know about us. Why is it illegal?

CLINIC: Oh, its illegal because that’s considered statutory rape. (unclear)

CALLER: What!? He’s not raping me. I mean – we’re in love, we’re going to get married. He’s going to take care of me forever.

CLINIC: No, don’t freak out or anything. I’m not trying to criticize or whatever, but legally in the eyes of the government I’m pretty sure that’s considered statutory rape.

CALLER: Well, what could happen.

CLINIC: Umm, What could happen for him? Like, I mean, nothing unless somebody prosecuted him. So, its just –

CALLER: Would you guys?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: So, it’d be okay if he came in and you guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody, or get him in trouble or anything.

CLINIC: I don’t think so. I really don’t believe so, its just that your confidentiality is totally held very, very private here. Okay?

CALLER: Oh, alright.

CLINIC: Umm.

CALLER: Well, I haven’t taken a pregnancy test yet. Would you guys do that beforehand just to make sure.

CLINIC: Umm. We would like you to actually do one first. Umm, how do you know that your pregnant if you haven’t had a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Well, I just haven’t had my period for a long time and I’m scared.

CLINIC: Okay. I need you to take a pregnancy test first.

CALLER: So do I come in there for that?

CLINIC: You could come in here and do one. That’s fine. Where do you live?

CALLER: Umm, I live in Seattle.

CLINIC: Like in downtown Seattle?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Umm, then I would say that you could go to, I mean, any doctor’s office and get one, or you could even take one from the store.

CALLER: Oh, are those usually right though?

CLINIC: Yeah, they’re pretty accurate if you just follow the directions properly. But if you’re worried about it then I would say go to Planned Parenthood or something.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: There’s a couple of – in downtown that you could go to and –

CALLER: Oh, would they have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Well, you don’t tell them anything. All you tell them is that you want a pregnancy test and they do it for free.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Umm, where do you live in Seattle.

CALLER: Umm, I live with a friend of mine right now, so.

CLINIC: Like, how – but, where?

CALLER: I’m not really sure. I’m just visiting like for like- but I’m from Yukama, and I’m just visiting her ’cause – well, she told me about you guys and stuff, so..

CLINIC: Oh, okay. Umm, mmm. So this is a tough situation. Umm, how – is your friend have a car or something?

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend does.

CLINIC: Oh, okay.

CALLER: Its just she -she has been through all this before so.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. Umm, cause like, umm, you could get one over the counter, like a test, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And if you don’t want to deal with the government at all. Umm, I mean, that’s just the best situtation.

CALLER: That’s what my boyfriend said, so.

CLINIC: He doesn’t want to deal with that at all?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: Okay, then I would say you should just go get an over-the-counter test to make sure you’re pregnant, first of all. Umm, and – and if that is negative or something, then I would go to a Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And there’s one right downtown. Umm, and you can just get a test done. Are you downtown in Seattle? That’s – well, what I’m asking is you could you come here or do you just want to do it downtown? What’s good for you?

CALLER: Well, she told me to call you guys and talk to you guys and go there. So –

CLINIC: Okay, so can you tell me like where your address is and then I could what would be closer for you to do.

CALLER: Well, I don’t really want to tell you my address. It’s just, I’m at her house and if, like, you guys send us anything it would like be to her family- I’m not on the address, or – I’m not usually here to get mail or anything.

CLINIC: Oh, I wouldn’t send you anything. I mean, well, another thing is this, like, I’m not trying to scare you away from anything. No one is going to divulge your confidentiality here, okay? First of all, I want you to know that, okay? Umm, but they do need, like, umm, an address in case of needing to, umm, send information to you somehow.

CALLER: Well, umm, could I give you my boyfriend’s address?

CLINIC: Yep, you totally could do that, and its also for emergency stuff, they need an emergency contact, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So you need to be comfortable about divulging that kind of information, okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, let me call my boyfriend and see, but I was also wondering, umm, if it came out that I wasn’t pregnant after I do like the home pregnancy test, would I be able to get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: Yeah, totally.

CALLER: Its just that we don’t want to have to worry about all this again.

CLINIC: Yeah, definitely. I mean, you could even do that after you have your procedure. Umm, so you can come here and have a pregnancy test, or you can do it if your downtown in Seattle, do it downtown. I mean, its really just kind of dependent on where you live where would be most convenient for you. Or, you could just get one over the counter, and then, so that’s your first step, make sure that you’re definitely pregnant. Do you feel any symptoms of pregnancy?

CALLER: What do you mean?

CLINIC: Do you – have you – can you – well, if you’d be at 12 weeks right now you might be feeling, like, that you’re gaining weight, but you may not be showing at all. I mean, you probably would be showing a little bit in your belly area, but have you had any breast tenderness?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Have you had any nausea or vomiting?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: No? Okay. Have you bled or had any cramping or anything like that in the past two months?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: In the last 2 or 3 months – No? Okay. I mean, you could very well not be having those symptoms, but, umm, but it’s a good idea to take a pregnancy test first, okay. Before you start freaking out over everything. But you should – if its negative, you could surely come here and get birth control too.

CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No, not at all.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Not at all.

CALLER: And you’re sure nobody has to know about any of this.

CLINIC: Yep! We have patients here that are underage all the time.

CALLER: Okay. I just wish I could talk to my mom like I talk to you.

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Umm, I need to call my boyfriend and see, but what was your name so I
could–

CLINIC: My name’s Lori. So if you want to us just,umm, figure out how you’re going to do that and see where you are located. If you want to come here, you can come here and get a pregnancy test done. Or —

CALLER: What are your hours?

CLINIC: Today we are actually open until probably around, umm, 7:30. But, usually we’re only open until around 5:30. Like Mondays and –

CALLER: So, if I came in today I could get it done and that would be–

CLINIC: Oh, what, a pregnancy test?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Yeah. You could totally do it today. Umm, the abortion, the times we schedule are Thurs- or Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. Because of where you’re at, and supposely, because we don’t know first of all where you’re at in your pregnancy, like if it is your last menstrual period was on January 3rd, then that would make you at 12 weeks. Umm, so we would need to schedule you probably, umm, on a Thursday or Friday, just because, umm, of not really knowing, and not being that confident, case, you know, you would have to come back in and do a two-day procedure, or if you needed to do a two-day procedure.

CALLER: Okay. Just as long as nobody has to know.

CLINIC: Yeah! No nobody will have to know about anything. Confidentiality is totally maintained here, okay? So don’t be afraid of all that.

CALLER: Yeah, I feel a lot better.

CLINIC: Yeah. Umm, its totally legal for you to have all this stuff done at your free will, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Umm, so why don’t you figure out how you’re going to do the pregnancy test, first. Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And then give me a call back, and, umm, and we’ll figure out from there. Okay?

CALLER: Alright, thank you.

CLINIC: Okay, you’re welcome. Bye, bye.

CALLER: Bye.

#812 – Planned Parenthood Of Spokane & Whitman Counties in Spokane, WA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF SPOKANE & WHITMAN COUNTIES
123 E. INDIANA AVE.
SPOKANE, WA 99205
509-326-2142

TAPE – 812

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

RECORDING: Hello. You have reached Planned Parenthood. If you know the extension number of the person you are calling, please enter that extension number now. To reach the scheduling desk, press 4. You can press zero or stay on the line for further assistance.

Our regular clinic hours are Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. (Dial button pressed 1x).

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Rene. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I can barely hear you. Can you talk a little louder?

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Oh, that’s better. I was actually calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Do you know how much it cost for that?

CLINIC: 450 or 550.

CALLER: What’s the difference?

CLINIC: How far along you are.

CALLER: How do you know?

CLINIC: If it’s more than 11 weeks and 6 days, it’s the higher amount.

CALLER: Well, I’m not really sure. I just haven’t had my period since January 3rd.

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: So do you know?

CLINIC: Well, let me have you talk with someone in the back. Just a moment, please.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Vicky (sp). May I help you?

CALLER: What was your name again?

CLINIC: Vicky (sp).

CALLER: Oh, okay. I was calling to ask some questions about getting an abortion. And the other lady I talked to said there was a price difference for how far you are, but I don’t know how far I am. And my last period was January 3rd. So I was wondering.

CLINIC: Okay. Hang on just one second. January 3rd was the first day of your last period?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: Today is March 8th. So today, you’re nine weeks.

CALLER: Okay. So how much would it cost then?

CLINIC: 450. Where do yo live?

CALLER: I live in Spokane.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, you can apply for medical coupons. How old are you?

CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 later on this month. That was another one of my questions. My friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is that old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Well, we don’t tell anybody.

CALLER: All right. I was just kind of worried about that.

CLINIC: You can apply for emergency medical coupons through the Department of Health and Social Services.

CALLER: Well, would they have to tell my parents though?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, all right.

CLINIC: You just tell them you don’t want your parents to know.

CALLER: Do you do the pregnancy test there?

CLINIC: You haven’t had one yet?

CALLER: Well, no. I just haven’t had my period in a long time, and I’m just really scared.

CLINIC: Yeah, I don’t blame you. Why don’t you come in this afternoon. Can you come in?

CALLER: How late are you guys open today?

CLINIC: Until 6.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my boyfriend gets off of work at 5. How long does it take to take the pregnancy?

CLINIC: Well, it doesn’t take long. It just depends how many people are ahead of you. But we’re going to see you for sure. And you have to wait for him to bring you; is that the deal?

CALLER: Yeah. He’d be the only way I could get there because I’m not old enough to drive yet.

CLINIC: Okay. Just come as quickly as you can, okay?

CALLER: Well, if turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: Oh, yeah.

CALLER: It’s just that we don’t want to worry about all this again.

CLINIC: Well, yeah, that would be a good idea.

CALLER: So how much does it cost to get birth control?

CLINIC: Well, don’t worry about that. Let’s do this first.

CALLER: Okay. But would you have to tell anybody if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No, honey. We don’t tell anybody anything.

CALLER: Okay. All right.

CLINIC: What’s your name?

CALLER: Lisa.

CLINIC: Lisa what?

CALLER: Carter.

CLINIC: And what’s your date of birth?

CALLER: March 19, 1988.

CLINIC: When you come in, ask for Penny.

CALLER: Are you Penny?

CLINIC: No, but I’m going to tell her that you’re coming.

CALLER: Oh, that’s right. You’re Vicky. I’m sorry.

CLINIC: I am. She can see you right when you get here, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And you thought your last period was when?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: Okay. All right, hon.

CALLER: Okay. Thank you.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye.

***END***

#670 – A Woman’s Choice Clinic / Cascade Family Planning (office Of Dr. D.w. Williamson) in Lakewood, WA

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A WOMAN’S CHOICE CLINIC / CASCADE FAMILY PLANNING (OFFICE OF DR. D.W. WILLIAMSON)
7509 CUSTER RD. W
LAKEWOOD, WA 98467
253-473-6031

TAPE – 670

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: A Woman’s Choice Clinic. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does that cost?

CLINIC: Do you know how far along you are?

CALLER: Well, no.

CLINIC: Do you know the first day of your last period?

CALLER: It was January 3rd.

CLINIC: As long as you are under 12 weeks, you make less than $30,000 and you’re by yourself —

CALLER: Well, I don’t have a job.

CLINIC: It will be $450 on our sliding fee scale. The normal price is $1275.

CALLER: Okay. The main reason why I’m worried is because I’m going to be 14 on the 20th, and my friend said you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: You’re saying you’re 14 years old?

CALLER: Yeah. Well, I’ll be 14 on the 20th.

CLINIC: We don’t have to tell your parents because you live in Washington State.

CALLER: So I don’t have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You live in Washington?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: There’s no informed consent that you need in the state of Washington.

CALLER: Well, my friend said you guys would have to know that my boyfriend is 22 as well. Does that make any difference?

CLINIC: We write it down in your chart, yeah. Was the sex consensual?

CALLER: Yeah. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married, and he’s going to take care of me forever. It’s just we’re not married yet, so we don’t want to have a baby right now.

CLINIC: Right. They would just write it in your chart, hon, because you have to write down all that stuff.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Would you guys do a pregnancy test first to make sure?

CLINIC: We do an ultra sound.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: If you make an appointment for an abortion procedure, we do an ultra sound first. Then you have some lab work, and then you have a counseling session before the actual procedure.

CALLER: Do you think it’s possible I’m not pregnant?

CLINIC: It’s entirely possible.

CALLER: The main reason why I’m worried is because I haven’t had my period since January 3rd. I haven’t done a pregnancy test yet or anything.

CLINIC: Yeah. If you want, you can either go get a home pregnancy, or you could come into one of the clinics, or even Planned Parenthood, or someplace and take a pregnancy test, because you want to find out for sure.

CALLER: Well, could I come in there then?

CLINIC: Sure. What city do you live in?

CALLER: I live in Parkland.

CLINIC: Where’s that at?

CALLER: It’s south of where you’re at.

CLINIC: All three of the clinics are tied together. Actually you’re talking to somebody in Yakima right now. And so we’re over the mountain. So you’re probably not 20 minutes from me. And I need to know which of the two other clinics that you were —

CALLER: Well, I was actually wanting to go to where you at so people I know don’t see me.

CLINIC: You want to come to Yakkamaw?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Oh, okay.

CALLER: And my boyfriend gave me this number. We were talking about all this. He said he would pay for everything. We just don’t want a whole bunch of people to — like we don’t want anyone to know about us, so we wanted to go there.

CLINIC: Right.

CALLER: Would you guys have to tell anybody about us?

CLINIC: We would have to write it in your chart.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Do your parents know that you date him?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: And he’s that old and stuff?

CALLER: Yeah. They know him. He works with my dad, and they know we’re going out. It’s just they don’t know we’re having sex. If they knew we were having sex I don’t know what they would do. They just can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: Right. Okay. So you want to come to Yakkamaw and —

CALLER: And get a pregnancy test first I guess.

CLINIC: Where do you live right now?

CALLER: I’m in Parkland.

CLINIC: Parkland?

CALLER: Yeah. It’s south of Tacoma.

CLINIC: So you’re going to drive two hours here for a pregnancy test?

CALLER: Well, I just don’t want anybody to know me. That’s where my boyfriend wanted to go.

CLINIC: Right. All I’m saying is you should probably have a pregnancy test first and make sure that you’re pregnant before you have to drive two hours.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Is there anyplace in Tacoma that you know of?

CLINIC: Actually, there’s a good place. It’s called the Cascade Family Planning. And they are at 7509 Custer Road. And that’s Tacoma, 98499. Do you wane me to make you an appointment for there?

CALLER: Well, I don’t know. I’d have to call my boyfriend to see. But do you know if I wasn’t pregnant if I could get birth control?

CLINIC: Yeah. And they would give it to you.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Would they have to know about anything or tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. They would have a nurse practitioner give you a pap smear and stuff, and then she would just make sure that you’re okay; you don’t have any weird spells or anything. And then she would give you some birth control pills or Depo or Levonelle.

CALLER: And they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. Nobody needs to know what kind of birth control you use.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, if I had any other questions, could I call you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Lisa.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And let me give you the number for Cascade. They won’t be answering the phones until probably after 3 today. But their phone number is 1-800-822-7857.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Thank you.

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#671 – Eastside Women’s Health Clinic in Olympia, WA

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EASTSIDE WOMEN’S HEALTH CLINIC
1100 EASTSIDE ST.
OLYMPIA, WA 98501
360-943-5127

TAPE – 671

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Eastside Women’s Health.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does that cost?

CLINIC: Well, if you’re under 12 weeks the cost for a pre-exam is between 90 and $105. The procedure cost is 380. And then you’re billed separately for your lab work which is around $20 for blood work.

CALLER: Okay. The thing is, I’m going to be 14 on the 20th, and my friend said you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Not in the state of Washington, you don’t have to inform your parents.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Really.

CALLER: So my boyfriend could be there with me and it be all right?

CLINIC: Oh, yeah. That’s fine. Have you had a pregnancy test done anywhere?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Are you here in Olympia?

CALLER: I live in Lacey.

CLINIC: Okay. You can come down to our office. And if you can do a urine sample for us we can give you a confirmation of pregnancy. And you can apply by phone for DSHS. It will pay for all your medical here.

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything. But the thing is, we don’t want anyone to know about us. So if he was paying for it all, would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: No. Nobody’s going to tell anybody anything.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: But if you didn’t have the money you can apply for the state in your own right for medical due to pregnancy.

CALLER: Well, he’s 22. He has a job and everything.

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: He said he would take care of everything.

CLINIC: That’s fine. So what is it you need now at this point in time? What do you want to do?

CALLER: I just have to call and see when I can come in basically.

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on one second.

(Long pause)

CLINIC: Are you still there?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: I’m sorry to keep you holding for so long. Can you tell me the first day of your last menstrual cycle?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: January 3rd. Today’s the 4th. You’d be under five weeks, so you wouldn’t be eligible for a surgical procedure. You would be eligible for a medical procedure if you’re right. The cost is different. It’s $590, and that includes lab fees.

CALLER: Well, do you know if there’s any way I couldn’t be pregnant?

CLINIC: Do I know what now?

CALLER: Is there any way that I’m not pregnant?

CLINIC: You don’t have sex.

CALLER: Well, no. Like I haven’t had my period for a long time. Is there any way that I’m not pregnant?

CLINIC: Well, it hasn’t been that long. You said January 1st was your last period, right?

CALLER: January 3rd, yeah.

CLINIC: January 3rd. Yeah. So it hasn’t been that long.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You would be under five weeks.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, I could come in there for birth control — could you guys do a pregnancy test and make sure?

CLINIC: You can walk in and do a free pregnancy test.

CALLER: And if it came out that I wasn’t pregnant, could you guys do birth control?

CLINIC: You’d have to make an appointment to do that.

CALLER: But would anybody have to know if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: Nope, only you. Believe me that’s at anyplace you go to in the state of Washington. It’s all confidential. Okay? So don’t stress about that.

CALLER: Okay. I just have so many questions, I don’t know. If I thought of anything else could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Candace (sp).

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Yep, that’s fine.

CALLER: So when do you guys ordinarily do pregnancy tests there?

CLINIC: You can walk in anytime, and we close at 4:30 today. We’re closed from 12 to 1 for lunch. The only days that we can’t do it is on Thursdays. That’s our surgery day. Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Good luck.

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

***END***

#672 – Aradia Women’s Health Center in Seattle, WA

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ARADIA WOMEN’S HEALTH CENTER
1300 SPRING ST.
SEATTLE, WA 98104
206-323-9388

TAPE – 672

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Aradia Women’s Health Center. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yeah, we do.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: It’s based on your monthly or yearly income on a discounted fee schedule. Can you estimate for me how much you make?

CALLER: Well, I don’t have a job.

CLINIC: Okay. So then the other thing it’s based on is whether you’re in your first or second trimester. First trimester is under 12 weeks, and second trimester is over 12 weeks. Do you know if you might be under 12 weeks?

CALLER: I don’t know. I just know my last period is like January 3rd, and that’s why I’m like worried about all this.

CLINIC: Okay. So the first day of your last period was January 3rd?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay, yeah. So you’re definitely still in your first trimester at this point. It looks like if we’re counting from that day probably about eight weeks and three days or so. So on that case the fee would be 475. That’s our lowest discounted fee. And that is due at the time of service. We don’t do payment plans.

CALLER: Oh, okay. The thing is, I’m going to be 14 on the 20th, and my friend said you guys would have to tell my parents.

CLINIC: No, that’s not true.

CALLER: But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of it?

CLINIC: He doesn’t need to do anything. We don’t need to tell your parents at all. They don’t need to be involved.

CALLER: But does anybody have to know about me and my boyfriend though?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: No. Your parents don’t need to be involved at all.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: One thing you might want to look into is the money might be hard for you to come up with —

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything. I mean, he’s 22. He’s got a job and everything.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: So I’m not really worried about that. I’m just worried about someone finding out.

CLINIC: No. We don’t need to talk to your parents at all. They don’t need to give their consent or anything. It’s just all your consent.

CALLER: Would you have to tell anyone besides my parents?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay. It’s just we don’t want anybody to know about us. So if he was paying for everything would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: Well, if he was paying with a credit card, he would have to sign the credit card slip. But if he was paying with cash, no. If he wanted to be with you during the actual procedure, he would need to sign a consent form.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: But that’s only if he wants to be with you during the surgery.

CALLER: Well, could he just stay in the lobby or whatever?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Yeah.

CALLER: Oh, okay. And that’s all right?

CALLER: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Do you think that there would be any way that I’m not pregnant?

CLINIC: Are your periods usually pretty normal?

CALLER: Well, usually, but I haven’t had them that long, so I don’t know.

CLINIC: Have you done a pregnancy test yet?

CALLER: Well, no.

CLINIC: No? Okay. It’s very possible — are you having any symptoms? Are you nauseous? Are your breasts tender? Are you more tired than normal?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: No? It’s possible that you might be having irregular periods, and you might not be pregnant. Did you want to come in for a pregnancy test?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. What part of town do you live in?

CALLER: I live in Princeton.

CLINIC: Where’s that?

CALLER: It’s like east of where you’re at.

CLINIC: Oh, okay.

CALLER: If I took the pregnancy test and it came out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Yeah. We would need to make a different appointment for that probably.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody about that though, if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: Nope. We don’t need to talk to anybody but you about anything that goes on here.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, I just have a lot of questions, but I need to talk to my boyfriend and see. Could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Anitra.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Yeah. You can talk to me or you can talk to anybody who answers the phone. But yeah, you can ask for me if you want.

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

***END***

#673 – Planned Parenthood in Sunnyside, WA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1616 GREGORY AVENUE EXT.
SUNNYSIDE, WA 98944-1651
509-837-6979

TAPE – 673

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Socorro. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: We don’t do them here, but our Tri-City office does. And we also refer out to Yakima.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you have the number for the one in Yakkamaw?

CLINIC: Um-hmm. You may need a referral first.

CALLER: Okay. What is that?

CLINIC: We need to take a pregnancy test and write out a referral slip.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So I can come there for that?

CLINIC: Yes. We also (unclear).

CALLER: I’m just kind of worried. I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about it anything?

CLINIC: You’re 14?

CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 later on this month.

CLINIC: You’ll be 14? No, everything’s confidential.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Do you want to come in tomorrow at 2?

CALLER: Well I’d have to call my boyfriend to see, but maybe.

CLINIC: If you can’t make it at 2, you can go ahead and come in anyway at 2 or 3.

CALLER: I can barely here you. Can you speak up?

CLINIC: We have teen clinic tomorrow. And we’re going to start at 2:00. What we’re going to do is we’re going to get you the pregnancy test and get you the referrals that you need.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, uh-huh.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No. It’s completely confidential.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: So go ahead and come on in. Teen clinic is from 2 to 5:30.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if I had any other questions — I’m just really confused about all this — could I call and talk to you? What was your name again?

CLINIC: My name is Socorro.

CALLER: How do you spell that?

CLINIC: S-o-c-o-r-r-o.

CALLER: Okay. And tomorrow after 3?

CLINIC: Yeah. From 2 to 5:30.

CALLER: All right. Thank you.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Bye.

***END***

#666 – Planned Parenthood in Ellenburg, WA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
312 N. PINE ST.
ELLENBURG, WA 98926-3366
509-925-7113

TAPE – 666

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: We do not.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know of anybody that does?

CLINIC: Yes, but I can’t give that information out over the phone.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You would need to come in.

CALLER: Okay. I’m just really worried because I can’t tell my parents at all. I’m going to be 14 on the 20th, and my friend said that I would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could I just have him sign whatever it is, and you wouldn’t have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: That’s correct.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: What we need to do is do a pregnancy test, because you have to have proof of pregnancy.

CALLER: Oh, okay. How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: It’s not going to. I just need to find a place to put you.

CALLER: Well, my last period was like January 3rd. Do you think that there would be any way that I wasn’t pregnant?

CLINIC: Oh, there’s always the chance. Were you using birth control?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Let’s see.

CALLER: Well, if I came in there for a pregnancy test, would I be able to — say that I wasn’t pregnant. Would I be able to get birth control there too?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: Nope.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Nope, nope. I’m just trying to find an appointment date.

CALLER: Okay. But nobody has to know about my boyfriend either?

CLINIC: Nope.

CALLER: It’s just my friend said you guys would have to tell.

CLINIC: When you come in don’t tell me about your boyfriend.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: If you tell me, then yes we have to report it because of the age.

CALLER: But he was going to pay for everything.

CLINIC: There probably isn’t any cost.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: So when you come in the best thing for you to do is just not tell me or anyone here. If you do say that and it does get recorded, then yes we do have to report that because of the age. Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: My problem is that I am just so full this week. Can you come at 9:15 tomorrow morning?

CALLER: I have to call my boyfriend and see. Is it okay if I call and call you back? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Patrick.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And we are gone for lunch here in a minute, between 12:30 and 1:30. So give me a call after 1:30.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#624 – Planned Parenthood in Walla Walla, WA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
828 S. 1ST AVE
WALLA WALLA, WA 99362-4003
509-529-3570

TAPE – 624

(dialing sound) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Good afternoon. Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t. The closest place you could get one done would be in the Tri-Cities, and they only do first trimester.

CALLER: Okay. Do you have a number for that?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. It’s 783-2859.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, do you know — I’m just kind of worried because, well I’m going to be 14 later on this month. But my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22.

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Could he just sign whatever it is and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. You would actually be responsible for your own self. Your boyfriend couldn’t sign anything for you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: If you wanted to get services through us, you could. We don’t release any information unless you give us permission to.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, it’s just the thing is, the main reason why I’m worried about all this is I haven’t had my period since like December 26, and I’m just scared.

CLINIC: Yeah. What I would probably do is go ahead and schedule an appointment to at least have a pregnancy test done.

CALLER: Could I come in and do that with you guys?

CLINIC: Well, yeah. Let me — hold on a second, okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: (pause)

CLINIC: — schedule an appointment?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Okay. We can go ahead and do that for you. Did you want to come in on Monday, have that done?

CALLER: I would have to call my boyfriend to see. But do you know like if the pregnancy test came out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. We could go ahead and schedule an appointment and get you started on birth control. We would go over any birth control methods you were interested in and give you information on that. We would need to schedule an appointment for either to have a full exam or to have us just review your medical history and okay you for birth control. So if you want to check with him, you can do that and then you can just give me a call back and we can go ahead and schedule that.

CALLER: Okay. So what was your name?

CLINIC: Connie. And your options are as far as scheduling an appointment, Monday, Tuesdays or Thursdays.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? So check with him and then give us a call back.

CALLER: Well, if I was getting birth control, could — the thing is, I can’t drive yet. Could my boyfriend pick up the pills?

CLINIC: If you give us permission and you put his name on the form, he can.

CALLER: Okay. And nobody would have to know anything about it?

CLINIC: No, we don’t release information unless you give us permission to.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Okay, thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

***THE END***

#625 – Planned Parenthood in Kenmore, WA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
6610 NE 181ST ST. # 2
KENMORE, WA 98028-4867
425-482-1122

TAPE – 625

(dialing sound) (ringing 1X)

RECORDING: Thank you for calling Kenmore Planned Parenthood. Please listen to all the following options before making your selection. Our options include recorded messages for hours, directions and after-hour emergencies. You can press zero at any time to speak to — (dial sound) Please hold for the operator. (ringing 3X)

CLINIC: Kenmore. Can you hold, please?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Thank you. Thanks for holding. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Oh. How much does that cost?

CLINIC: It’s going to be based on your income.

CALLER: The thing is, I’m going to be 14 in March and I don’t have an income.

CLINIC: Okay. Then it’s probably about $350.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: What I recommend is that you apply for medical coupons.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: That way it will pay for the abortion.

CALLER: Well, do you know — I’m just kind of scared because like my friend told me you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about anything?

CLINIC: Well, we wouldn’t tell your parents. We have confidentiality here.

CALLER: Would you have to tell someone other than my parents?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But I’d still recommend applying for medical coupons.

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend said he would pay for everything, so.

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on a moment.

CALLER: Okay. (pause) Can you keep holding for a minute?

CLINIC: All right.

CLINIC: (new person comes to phone) Hi, there.

CALLER: Hi.

CLINIC: You had some questions about abortion? Jenna was — she’s back making appointment. You’re 13?

CALLER: Huh?

CLINIC: You’re 13?

CALLER: Yeah. Well, I’ll be 14 on the 9th. But I was wondering if they would have to tell my parents.

CLINIC: There’s no legal law we cannot tell your parents anything about having an abortion. It doesn’t matter how old you are.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: We have strict confidentiality here.

CALLER: It’s just my boyfriend’s 22. Would he be able to take are of everything though?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: He said he would pay for everything and — like when we were talking about it he said that he would pay for everything. It’s just we don’t want a whole bunch of people to know about us. Would he have to sign anything if he was paying for it all?

CLINIC: Well, here’s the deal. It’s up to you if you want to tell us his age when you come in.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You know? I mean, he can sign things. That doesn’t mean we’re asking how old he is.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: You know what I mean? Like if he has to a credit card or something like that, we’re not going to ask how old he is.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You know? If you want to give that information out you can, but then we’re going to have to deal with a whole other ball of wax.

CALLER: What do you mean?

CLINIC: Well, technically, you know, you’re a minor and he’s not, so we are responsible by law to deal with that if you if you tell us that.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Right now you don’t have to — whatever we’re talking about doesn’t count because I don’t know you, don’t know your name. You can come in and I won’t know if you’re the person I talked to because I don’t — don’t worry about it right now.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But when you come in, first thing is, we will not contact your parents whatsoever unless you sign a document telling us you want us to. Don’t worry about that. You can have an abortion, and that’s fine.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: As far as the age thing goes, it’s up to you if you disclose that information to us, like if you tell us that your boyfriend is 22 then we have to talk to you about it.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: I don’t –

CALLER: Just don’t — I don’t want him to get in trouble.

CLINIC: Right, because there’s laws around that, and they don’t — you know, they don’t apply — you know, they don’t always apply to everybody, but we have to by law deal with it.

CALLER: Okay. How long does it take to get an abortion?

CLINIC: You would be at the clinic 3 to 4 hours. The abortion takes about 3 to 4 minutes.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just, I would have to — my boyfriend would have to take me. I wouldn’t have any other way to get there. Would that be all right if he was there with me though?

CLINIC: Oh, yeah.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Like I said, it’s up to you if you tell us. We’re not going to ask you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: I mean, you give us whatever information you want. We don’t know if you’re telling the truth or not anyway.

CALLER: Oh, all right.

CLINIC: We just go with what you tell us. We’ll ask what your age is and you have to put it down on the form. But we don’t ask him any personal questions unless you tell us. Then if you tell us he’s 22, I mean, you know, then we know. But. You see what I’m saying?

CALLER: Yeah. Well, the main reason why I’m calling is, the main reason why I’m worried about all this is because like I haven’t had my period since like December 26, and we’re just really worried. So –

CLINIC: Have you taken a pregnancy test?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: You should probably come in and do that first.

CALLER: Oh, all right.

CLINIC: Because of your age, it’s very common to skip your period.

CALLER: Oh. All right.

CLINIC: Do you guys use any kind of birth control?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: No? Do you have sexual intercourse like on a regular basis?

CALLER: Well, yeah.

CLINIC: A couple times a week, whatever?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: You could be pregnant. So, yeah, you should probably — you can come in here. We do it on a walk-in. You don’t have to pay. And then we’ll do the test and find out first.

CALLER: Okay. If it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control?

CLINIC: Oh, for sure. Yeah, definitely. We can give that to you.

CALLER: Okay. Well, would anyone have to know about birth control?

CLINIC: Huh?

CALLER: Would anyone have to know if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No. There’s nothing. You can come here and be seen for anything you want to, and we don’t have to tell your parents.

CALLER: Okay. The thing is, since I can’t drive, would my boyfriend be able to pick up like the birth control pills though?

CLINIC: If you give us his first name.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And tell us that.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Our only concern is that, you know with such a huge age difference, you know making sure that you’re safe and that you’re choosing to be in this relationship.

CALLER: Well, yeah.

CLINIC: You know? And that you know –

CALLER: I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married. It’s just, we can’t have a kid right now.

CLINIC: Right. Okay. Do your parents know that you guys are together?

CALLER: Yeah. I mean, he works with my dad. But they don’t know we’re having sex. I mean, if they found out about that, I don’t know what they would do. So they just — they can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: So you sure you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Not if you don’t tell us.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: We only go with what you tell us.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You can tell us he’s 16. I don’t know. (laughs)

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You know?

CALLER: You’ve been so nice. I wish I could talk to my mom like this.

CLINIC: Yeah. We do have a counselor here if you need to talk with a counselor; at any point you can.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But come in for that pregnancy test first. I mean, it’s silly to even put the cart before the horse if you’re not pregnant. I mean, then we don’t need to worry about that.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You know what I mean?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: I think you should get the test, find out, and then decide what you want to do on that. My name’s Amy.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: I’m here most of the time.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And you can talk to me. I can do your tests for you if I’m here.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay, thanks.

CLINIC: Is that helpful?

CALLER: Yes, thank you.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Bye

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#626 – Western Washington Planned Parenthood in Seattle, WA

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WESTERN WASHINGTON PLANNED PARENTHOOD
4500 9TH AVE NE # 324
SEATTLE, WA 98105-4778
206-632-0345

TAPE – 626

(dialing sound) (ringing 2X)

RECORDING: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood of Western Washington’s University District Clinic. Please listen to the following options. (dial sound) Please hold for the operator. (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Oh. How much does that cost?

CLINIC: It’s based on your gross monthly income. Do you work?

CALLER: Well, no.

CLINIC: So how do you support yourself?

CALLER: Well, I’m going to be 14 this month, and I live with my parents.

CLINIC: Oh, you live with your parents. Probably about $347. Would you be able to swing that?

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything.

CLINIC: Oh, okay.

CALLER: It’s just, the thing is, he’s 22, and he’s got a job, so.

CLINIC: Okay. So yeah. It would be probably $347.

CALLER: Okay. So is it all right if he’s paying for it and –

CLINIC: Yeah, that’s fine.

CALLER: Okay. But would you have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: No. Everything’s confidential.

CALLER: Oh. All right. It’s just, the thing is, we were talking, me and my boyfriend were talking about all this, and we don’t want a whole bunch of people to know about us. If he was paying for it all, would he have to sign any papers or anything?

CLINIC: Well, is he coming with you?

CALLER: Well, yeah. He was going to pay for everything.

CLINIC: Well, how’s he paying? Is he paying with cash, credit card?

CALLER: Cash.

CLINIC: Okay. No, he doesn’t have to fill out anything.

CALLER: Okay. So you wouldn’t have to tell my parents though?

CLINIC: No, I don’t think so.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Let me just check one other thing, okay? Can you hold for must a moment?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. I was just checking. I was calling our, one of our counseling coordinators to check out one thing because I don’t know — you know, when you’re telling me how old you were and how old your partner was?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: I don’t know as far as legalities as far as because he’s an adult and you’re not, that’s why I’m checking that one out. But she’s with a patient so I can’t get the answer for you right now, but I just wanted to, you know, give you all the information that you would need before you came in.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So that you –

CALLER: What do you mean by that?

CLINIC: Well, because of the fact that you’re under 16 and he’s an adult.

CALLER: Well, so — if I didn’t tell you, would it matter so much?

CLINIC: Yeah. Well, see right now, like I don’t even know any information about you. (laughs) So I’m just wondering, do you want to just call back in like about an hour?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: And I can just — I’ll talk to her and just run it by her and see.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? It doesn’t sound like it’s unconsensual. I mean, it’s a consensual thing, right?

CALLER: Well, yeah. We’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. And do your parents know about him and stuff?

CALLER: Yeah. Like he works with my dad.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. So your parents know you guys are dating and all that stuff?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: So it’s not like something where your parents –

CALLER: But they don’t know we’re having sex. I mean, they can’t find out about that at all.

CLINIC: Right. Right.

CALLER: If they knew I don’t know what they would do.

CLINIC: Right. Right. But they know that you guys are dating and that’s cool with them.

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Oh. Okay. Okay.

CALLER: They don’t really like him. But –

CLINIC: (laughs) But still, they know you’re dating and they don’t put up a fuss about that.

CALLER: Yeah. Well, do you know — like –

CLINIC: Normally, we would, I mean, we wouldn’t normally like have to tell your parents. I don’t think that we would have to tell your parents. But what I’m wondering is, what are we legally bound to as far as — you know, because like if — usually in that kind of a situation if you’re under 16 and he’s an adult, you have to legally make a report to CPS. So that’s what I was just going to just make sure that we don’t — you know, to see if we would have to do that or not. You know, I don’t want to panic you yet, but I want to just let you know what we might be legally bound to do.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Does that make sense?

CALLER: Well, so if I told you guys like hold old he was you would have to –

CLINIC: Well, see that’s what I don’t know. That’s what I have to talk to our counseling coordinator about to see what we would be legally bound to. But that’s why I wanted to find out, you know, do your parents know that you’re dating him, blah, blah. So this may not be even something that we’d even have to worry about. But I don’t know. I don’t know but in all fairness to you I think you should know that before you come in. So I’m just going to run it by her and then do you want to give me a jingle back and I can let you know?

CALLER: Could I ask you real quick?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: The main reason I’m worried about all this is because I haven’t had my period since like December 26, and I’m just really scared, so.

CLINIC: But you haven’t done a home pregnancy test yet or anything?

CALLER: Well, no. I didn’t know that those were all that right.

CLINIC: They’re pretty accurate, but you can go into any of our clinics and get a pregnancy test and they’re free.

CALLER: Oh, really? Would they have to tell anybody then?

CLINIC: No, no. I mean, yeah, you can come in and we wouldn’t have to tell anybody at all.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: If it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Oh, yeah. Just –

CALLER: It’s just me and my boyfriend don’t want anyone to know about all this.

CLINIC: I’m sorry. What?

CALLER: It’s just, me and my boyfriend don’t want to have to worry about all this anymore.

CLINIC: Okay. Hang oh. She’s on the other phone. Let me go get, answer that call. Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Are you there?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: She said if we know the age difference we’re bound by law to report that to CPS or to the police.

CALLER: The police?

CLINIC: Yeah. Well, it’s because it’s — because of the age difference if it’s more than 48 months when you’re a minor it’s considered statutory rape.

CALLER: But he’s not raping me. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: I know. But that’s what’s in the legality terms of it. That’s what they’re called — that’s what –

CALLER: What could happen?

CLINIC: What do you mean what could happen?

CALLER: What could happen if you guys find out and report it and –

CLINIC: I don’t know. I don’t know how they would handle it. That’s the problem, because we don’t — you know, we — if we had to report it would turn it over to them, but we don’t know how they deal with it. But by law anybody who has a license and knows that has to report that kind of an age difference to CPS or to the local police. So –

CALLER: So is the best thing just to not say anything about him?

CLINIC: Well, I can’t say that. All I can say is, if we don’t know the age difference — I mean, there’s — and we don’t, you know, then there’s nothing to report. But I can’t say that you can’t tell us that.

CALLER: Okay. If I come in for the pregnancy test and it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Sure, yeah. We can set you up an appointment to get birth control.

CALLER: Oh. But would you have to tell anybody anything then?

CLINIC: No, no. I mean, if you’re coming in just to get birth control, that sort of thing, you know, normally like you could come in and get services as a minor without your parental permission if that’s what you’re asking.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay. What time do you normally do the pregnancy tests?

CLINIC: Today we do them up until 4:00.

CALLER: Okay. Do I need an appointment for that?

CLINIC: No. We do a walk-in basis.

CALLER: Okay. If I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Mary.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye.

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