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#646 – Commonwealth Women’s Center in Falls Church, VA

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COMMONWEALTH WOMEN’S CENTER
916 W. BROAD ST.
FALLS CHURCH, VA 22046
703-533-3700

TAPE – 646

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Good morning, Commonwealth Women.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Oh. Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: Locals, you’re awake during the procedure, $290; general, you’re asleep during the procedure, $475.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And that’s by appointment only.

CALLER: I’m just worried. My friend told me that since I’m going to be 14 later on this month, you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No, ma’am.

CALLER: No?

CLINIC: No. We need parental notification. That means your parents have to come with you.

CALLER: Is there any way around that?

CLINIC: No, ma’am.

CALLER: Because I can’t tell them at all. If they found out — they know my boyfriend; they just don’t like him. But if they found out that we were having sex, I don’t know what they would do. They can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: When was the first day of your last normal period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: We still need parental notification. It’s the law.

CALLER: Well, could I come in for a pregnancy test just to make sure?

CLINIC: You certainly can. We do —

CALLER: But would you have to tell my parents then?

CLINIC: No, ma’am. Urine pregnancy tests cost $5; blood tests cost $25.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my boyfriend and I were talking about all this, and we don’t want a whole bunch of people to know about us. He said he would pay for everything. But would he have to sign anything if he’s paying for everything?

CLINIC: No, he wouldn’t.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control the same day?

CLINIC: You would have to set a GYN appointment with our nurse practitioner.

CALLER: Oh, all right. But would anybody have to know if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: Only if you told them.

CALLER: Really? Okay. All right. So there’s no way that I wouldn’t be able to do this without my parents knowing?

CLINIC: For the termination your parents need to know.

CALLER: Well, what can I do?

CLINIC: I can’t advise you on that.

CALLER: Oh, all right. Well, if I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: You can talk to anyone who answers the phone.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, are they as nice as you?

CLINIC: I believe so, yes. We have a nice group of people here.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All righty?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Um-hmm. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#647 – Charlottesville Obstetrics – Planned Parenthood in Charlottesville, VA

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CHARLOTTESVILLE OBSTETRICS – PLANNED PARENTHOOD
CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA 22911
804-977-0200

TAPE – 647

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Susan. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: For the surgical abortion it’s $370. We do that between 6 and 13 weeks.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how do you know how far you are?

CLINIC: When was your last period?

CALLER: January 3rd

CLINIC: January 3rd? Can you hold for must one moment?

CALLER: Okay.

(Short pause)

CLINIC: Sorry to keep you holding. You said January 3rd was your last period?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Let me look at my calendar. My math is so terrible; I have to count. You’re probably five weeks or so, because generally women get pregnant mid cycle. So you probably got pregnant about somewhere around two weeks after your last period.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I just haven’t had my period since then.

CLINIC: Right. I’m looking at the calendar. I would say you’re probably around six weeks or so.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Which I could go ahead and schedule you if you wanted to. We do the procedures on Monday, Wednesdays and Thursdays.

CALLER: Well, I’m going to be 14 on the 20th, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is, and they wouldn’t have to tell anyone?

CLINIC: No. Unfortunately, the only thing — and I don’t even know. You’re 13 now?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: The only thing if you don’t want to tell your parents, you can go to court and get a judicial bypass.

CALLER: What is that?

CLINIC: Where you have to go explain to the judge why you want to do this and why you don’t want to tell your parents. I don’t even know how to tell you to do that. That’s the only way we can —

CALLER: But he would say it’s okay?

CLINIC: I don’t know. I mean, he might say yes. He might say you’re too young. I’m thinking he may say no.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Yeah. Usually like if you’re 16 or 17, you’re getting close to being 18, the judge will go ahead and write you out a paper. I don’t know that with you being so young.

Can you hold just a moment? Let me ask my manager what she thinks?

CALLER: All right.

(Pause)

CLINIC: You still there?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: I’m going to give you a phone number to call. It’s the juvenile court. And I asked our center manager, and she said that you’re not too young to request a judicial bypass. And what you need to do is just call them and tell them your situation. And tell them that you’re wanting a judicial bypass so that we can see you here in our clinic for the abortion procedure.

CALLER: How much does that cost?

CLINIC: It’s $370.

CALLER: For the judicial bypass?

CLINIC: No, no. I don’t think there’s a cost for that. I thought you meant the cost for the procedure.

CALLER: But would they have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: I can give you that phone number– 979-7191.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: And call them, and they can give you the information. Just tell them you need to get information how to go about getting a judicial bypass. Okay?

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend doesn’t want a whole bunch of people to know about us. If he was paying for everything, would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So I could come in there for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: We don’t do that here. You could go to the Arlington Road — you could go over there, and they could counsel you about all that there.

CALLER: A pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Would they have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Any medical information — it’s not just regarding abortion. But any medical information is confidential. So by law people are not allowed to discuss you or your medical situation at all.

CALLER: Do you think that maybe I’m not pregnant and I can get birth control?

CLINIC: Yes. I would call them, and I would ask them. Talk to them about that, because that’s what they do at that clinic. They do your yearly exams and things. They can get your set up with birth control pills and all of that.

CALLER: And nobody would have to know that I was on birth control too?

CLINIC: I think you can get around that also.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You would just need to call them and talk to them.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Thanks a lot.

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#179 – Planned Parenthood in Blacksburg, VA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
700 N. MAIN ST. # J
BLACKSBURG, VA 24060-3312
540-951-5184

TAPE – 179

(dialing sound) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Good morning. Planned Parenthood. This is Donna. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: We don’t do abortions at our clinic, but we do — they do perform abortions at the Roanoke clinic.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Would you like their number?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. The clinic in Roanoke is 562-3457. And the area code is 540.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know if there’s like a specific age requirement for that? Because like I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Okay. There is an age requirement.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: But to get a — can you hold on one second? I’m going to find out this information for you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Can I get your first name?

CALLER: It’s Christine.

CLINIC: Christine. Hold on. (pause) Ma’am?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Okay. Because of your age, because you’re under 18, you have two options.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: First option is if you’re going to have an abortion is to have one of your parents accompany you.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I can’t do that at all. Like, well, my boyfriend’s 22, and we’re planning on getting married, but they can’t find out because they hate him. They think he’s too old for me.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, the second option is something called judicial bypass. And to do that you have to go see a judge.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Are you in Montgomery County?

CALLER: I’m in Mountain Lake.

CLINIC: Well, I’m going to give you the number for the juvenile court in Montgomery County.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And if you can’t go through them, they’ll give you the number to the one that you can go through.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? Okay, the number there, and then we know that the judges there are very supportive —

CALLER: Okay. Do I have to get a lawyer or anything?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, all right.

CLINIC: I don’t think so. But you can call them. They’ll give you all that information. Also the Roanoke clinic, because they actually do the procedures there, will have more information for you.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Do you have the Roanoke clinic already, right?

CALLER: Uh-huh. Yeah.

CLINIC: Here’s the Montgomery County Juvenile Court phone number. Are you ready for it?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: It’s 540-980-3822.

CALLER: Okay. Say that like — do you guys do like a pregnancy test there?

CLINIC: We do pregnancy tests here, yes.

CALLER: Okay. Would you have to tell my parents about that?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay, so nobody has to know or anything?

CLINIC: No. You can come in and get a free pregnancy test. Are you already two weeks late with your period?

CALLER: Well, my last period was like the first week in December.

CLINIC: Yeah. So you can come here and get a pregnancy test and people will explain your options to you as far as, you know, if you want to terminate or have the baby or whatever.

CALLER: Okay. Is it all right if like my boyfriend brings me, because that’s the only way I’d be able to get there.

CLINIC: Definitely. (laughs) Yeah.

CALLER: And you guys wouldn’t have to ask about him or anything?

CLINIC: Oh, no, no. He can come in and sit in the office or whatever. It’s all about you, and we’re into confidentiality.

CALLER: Okay. Because he just doesn’t want to tell anybody about this, so.

CLINIC: That’s — it’s all up to you. It’s all your choices.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All we do is give you information.

CALLER: If like the pregnancy test was negative, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do. And to get birth control you can ask the person — someone will talk to you no matter what happens with the results. They’ll give you the results, you’ll go to a room, and then they’ll say, you know — you can ask them all the questions. We do annual exams — to get birth control?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Which you probably want to consider anyways or you might want to consider — if you want to do that you can do that through our office. You have to get something called an annual exam which is a pelvic –

CALLER: Well, do my parents have to know anything about birth control?

CLINIC: They have to know nothing about anything.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Unless you tell them.

CALLER: So nobody will know?

CLINIC: No one will know unless you tell them.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: And you can get your pills here too.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Or the shot or whatever you choose to do.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just my boyfriend says he doesn’t want anybody to know, so.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, it’s up to you guys. We don’t call. We’re not going to call your parents or anything. We don’t — you know, you won’t go through insurance or anything.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So everything is just done here, and yeah. So if you have any further questions just go ahead and give us a call.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? And you take care of yourself.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

*** THE END ***

#180 – Planned Parenthood in Lynchburg, VA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
2138 LANGHORNE RD.
LYNCHBURG, VA 24501-1424
434-845-3178

TAPE – 180

(dialing sound) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Charlotte. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, honey. At our Charlottesville and Roanoke office.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Would you like their numbers?

CALLER: Yes, please.

CLINIC: Okay. Roanoke is area code 540-562-3457.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know if they have to — like is there like an age requirement for that or anything? Like I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Is there a what, honey?

CALLER: Is there like an age requirement to have an abortion?

CLINIC: Is there an age?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Yeah. 18 and over you don’t need permission.

CALLER: Permission?

CLINIC: Under 18 you need a parent.

CALLER: Oh. Is there any way not to tell my parents?

CLINIC: No. Absolutely not.

CALLER: Because like my parents can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: I’m sorry. Absolutely not. I’m sorry. You have to tell them if you’re thinking of having an abortion.

CALLER: Okay. Well –

CLINIC: That is the law.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? No one will do an abortion on you without a parent. Absolutely no one.

CALLER: And there’s no way to get around it at all?

CLINIC: Absolutely no one.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: — will do an abortion under 18. Absolutely. It is a law, and each abortion facility are following it very carefully, by the book. So if it’s your parents who is with you, there is identification and proof. Yeah. There’s a lot that you have to do if you’re underage.

CALLER: Like my boyfriend doesn’t want anybody to know.

CLINIC: What did I just tell you, honey?

CALLER: Well, I know, but what can I do? I can’t tell them.

CLINIC: I just told you. There is absolutely no way you can get around having an abortion and being underage.

CALLER: Okay. Well, what if like — all right. Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: What’s that, honey?

CALLER: Well, I was wondering if like — well, what if I wasn’t pregnant? Do you guys like — like you have the pregnancy tests there?

CLINIC: We do do pregnancy tests.

CALLER: Do you have to tell — like do my parents have to know about that?

CLINIC: Not for a pregnancy test, no.

CALLER: Okay. So it’s all right. Like, well, after the pregnancy test if like I wasn’t pregnant do you guys do birth control or anything?

CLINIC: Yes, we do do birth control.

CALLER: Would it be all right like if my boyfriend paid for it?

CLINIC: We don’t have to tell your parents about that.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, is it all right if my boyfriend pays for it and everything?

CLINIC: That will be fine.

CALLER: Because like he’s got a job and he’s 22. He said he would take care of everything.

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Okay. How old is he?

CALLER: He’s 22.

CLINIC: Okay. Our clinic hours on Tuesdays from 9:00 to 3:00, on Thursdays from 9:00 to 7:00. You need an appointment.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I’d have to call him to see if he –

CLINIC: (unclear) Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay, dear.

CALLER: But no one has to know about like birth control or the pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No one has to know about that. Now the age issue between you and him, legally he could be prosecuted. You are way underage.

CALLER: What? I don’t — what could happen?

CLINIC: He is 22 years old.

CALLER: Yeah, but we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: I’m not going to debate that. I am only tell you, okay? It isn’t my business. I can see you but if anybody else finds out he can be charged.

CALLER: Well, what would happen to him?

CLINIC: You need — I can’t answer that. He is overage, and you’re underage.

CALLER: Well, what should I do?

CLINIC: I don’t know.

CALLER: He’s got to drive me. He’s the only one that could take me.

CLINIC: Okay. I mean, I can see you. I’m telling you. I can see you. I am only telling you, you are underage. He is an adult.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: He could be charged.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Not by us. I don’t interfere in that. I am telling you if your parents ever find out or anything, he could be charged. You are a minor.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: He is an adult. Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So I’m just telling you that, all right?

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Anything else?

CALLER: No. That’s it.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

(phone clicks)

*** THE END ***

#174 – Planned Parenthood in Falls Church, VA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
370 S. WASHINGTON ST. # 3
FALLS CHURCH, VA 22046-4418
703-533-5651

TAPE – 174 (Virginia)

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

RECORDING: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood of Falls Church. Please remember that according to our pharmacy policy you must call one week in advance to order supplies. If you’re calling to make an appointment and need supplies, please remember to order supplies at the same time so they’ll be ready for you at the time of your appointment. Our supply pickup hours are Monday, Thursday and Saturday 10 to 4, Tuesday 10 to 7, Wednesday 8:30 to 3:30, and Friday 11 to 3:00. For hours of operation press 1. For directions press 2. To make an appointment, press 3. (dial sound) One moment, please.
(ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Can you hold, please?

CALLER: Yeah. (pause)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Well, do you know how much that costs or anything?

CLINIC: It depends how far along you are. When was the first day of your last normal period?

CALLER: It was like around the first week in December.

CLINIC: December 5, December 6th? When about, hon?

CALLER: Probably like the 5th.

CLINIC: That’s going to make you right now about two weeks along. Do you — how old are you?

CALLER: Like, well I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Okay. Do you know that in Virginia you need parental consent?

CALLER: Oh. Is there any way not to do that? Because like my parents can’t find out because — well my boyfriend’s 22, and we’re going to get married and everything, but they think he’s too old for me, and they would totally flip out.

CLINIC: Your boyfriend’s 22?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay, hold on a second, hon. Let me see what else I can get you for, okay?

CALLER: Okay. (pause)

CLINIC: Honey?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. You can go to DC and there’s no parental notification laws.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right. You want to get their number?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: It’s 202-347-8512.

CALLER: Okay. And it’s all right like if my boyfriend takes me and everything?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: And they wouldn’t have to say anything?

CLINIC: Well, I’ll give you a heads up.

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Your boyfriend’s quite older than you. Quite. And it’s very illegal for him to date you.

CALLER: What?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: I don’t understand. How is that illegal?

CLINIC: Because, honey, you’re not 18, and he’s over 18.

CALLER: Yeah, but we’re in love. I don’t understand what you mean.

CLINIC: There’s a law against that, honey. Considering how older he is.

CALLER: Is there anything — like would he get in trouble?

CLINIC: Yeah, he could.

CALLER: What would happen?

CLINIC: He can go to jail.

CALLER: Okay. Well, is there –

CLINIC: Take care of the first thing. If you want to go ahead and get an abortion, give them a call and make an appointment.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: He can go with you, but if anybody does ask you, in the future you could possibly get, you know, messy because he is significantly older than you.

CALLER: Oh. Well, what should I do?

CLINIC: I really can’t answer that question because, I mean, if I give you an answer you may not like it and then he could possibly go to jail, especially if your parents press charges against him.

CALLER: So but they — like — no one would tell my parents though, would they?

CLINIC: I wouldn’t tell.

CALLER: Oh, all right.

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay. Say that I wasn’t pregnant, would I be able to get birth control there at your office?

CLINIC: Yeah, you can get birth control at our office no matter how old you are.

CALLER: Oh, you guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody anything?

CLINIC: Nope.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: And you guys wouldn’t tell on my boyfriend?

CLINIC: Nope. Well, that would be — well, (sighs) — look, the problem is that because your boyfriend is so significantly older than you and the fact that you are under the age of 16 — now if you were 16 and he was what he is, that’s a whole other story. But since you’re 14 it makes it even worse.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Yes. So I mean, I’m not familiar with the Virginia laws, but it would be determined by the, one of our nurses if she did see you —

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: — if you’re in a bad situation. Now we won’t deny you birth control.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And you can come in anytime and get birth control, but I need you to start using birth control.

CALLER: Oh. Well, so like if I didn’t say anything it would be all right?

CLINIC: Yes. Now, my question is, that I have to ask you.

CALLER: Oh, you do?

CLINIC: Huh? I have to ask you these questions since we’re on the phone. Why don’t you make that appointment at the downtown clinic. How long have you and your boyfriend been dating?

CALLER: Like about a year.

CLINIC: Can you hold, please?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: (pause)
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(dialing sounds)

RECORDING: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood of Falls Church. Please remember that according to our pharmacy policy you must call one week in advance to order supplies. If you’re calling to make an appointment and need supplies, please remember to order supplies at the same time so they’d be ready for you at the time of your appointment. Our supply pickup hours are Monday, Thursday and Saturday 10 to 4, Tuesday 10 to 7, Wednesday 8:30 to 3:30, and Friday 11 to 3:00. For hours of operation press 1. For directions press 2. To make an appointment press 3. (dial sound) One moment, please.

(Ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Can I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. I was talking to someone.

CLINIC: You asked me. I’m back.

CALLER: I’m sorry. My friend’s mom came in and we had to hang up.

CLINIC: Okay. What’s your primary concern is this, is that if you do not want to keep the pregnancy to term you need to facilitate that soon before the price gets too big, okay?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Then — I want to give you a heads up though. I do not know what the clinician’s going to do when she does talk to you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So, the best thing is to always be honest. But if your parents do discover that he is dating you and his age, since you were dating as young as you were and I’m assuming correctly that you guys have been having sex for awhile –

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: — it can be a big thing. Not only could it be a big thing but it is a very big thing.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So he — I mean, I’m not passing judgment.

CALLER: Um-hum.

CLINIC: But his age dating you, the fact that you’re 14, no matter how in love you are is not a very good thing.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you have to tell anybody or anything?

CLINIC: I’m not going to tell anybody. I don’t know your name, whatever.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But if your parents ever found out, he will go to jail.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Okay. Well, is it okay if I call you back? Because I don’t know what to do, but –

CLINIC: My name is Samantha, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Call me back, okay?

CALLER: Okay, thanks.

CLINIC: All right. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

*** THE END ***
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#175 – Planned Parenthood in Charlottesville, VA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1928 ARLINGTON BLVD. # 100
CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA 22903-1561
434-296-2330

TAPE – 175

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Good morning. Planned Parenthood. This is Tisha (sp). How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No. Let me give you the phone number of the one that does. Are you ready?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: 977-0200.

CALLER: All right. Well, do you know if — like there’s an age requirement for that? Like I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: I’m sorry. Say that again?

CALLER: Is there like an age requirement to have an abortion?

CLINIC: Yes. Why don’t you give them a call and they could give you all the information?

CALLER: Oh. All right. Well, do you know if they have to — like my friend said that they would have to tell my parents. Is that true?

CLINIC: No, it’s not.

CALLER: No? Because like if they found out — well, like my boyfriend’s 22. We’re going to get married and everything, but like they can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: Why don’t you give the people, the phone number I gave you, and then can help you with all that information. Okay?

CALLER: Well, it’s just my boyfriend said to call you guys, so.

CLINIC: Well, we don’t do the abortions here.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you do like birth control, or whatever?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: And would you guys have to tell anybody about that?

CLINIC: Absolutely not.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Would it be all right like if my boyfriend came and everything? Because he’d be the only way I could get there.

CLINIC: Well, what is it you need? You need birth control or do you need an abortion?

CALLER: Well, I don’t now if I’m pregnant but do you guys do the pregnancy tests there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do. We do the pregnancy tests.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Would you like to set up an appointment?

CALLER: Well, yeah.

CLINIC: Okay, did you want to come in today?

CALLER: Well, I’d have to call him and see.

CLINIC: Okay. Why don’t you give him a call and call me back?

CALLER: Well, do you guys have like a specific timeframe or anything?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: When is that?

CLINIC: Let me ask you question. Are you late on your period?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: How late are you?

CALLER: Well, like my last period was like the first week in December.

CLINIC: December.

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Okay. I can get you in Monday through Friday.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: So all right.

CLINIC: So call me back.

CALLER: What time Monday through Friday like?

CLINIC: Anywhere from 9 to 4:00.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Call me and let me know.

CALLER: Do you have to tell anybody about like having a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No. We don’t tell anybody anything.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#176 – Planned Parenthood in Virginia Beach, VA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
5441 VIRGINIA BEACH BLVD. # 103
VIRGINIA BEACH, VA 23462-1749
757-473-8116

TAPE – 176

(dialing sound) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Virginia Beach office. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: We do.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you have to be a specific age for that? Like I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Okay. What you would need to do, there are other options. There is also adoption.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my boyfriend — we just decided on doing this because they can’t find out at all about this because like — well like my problem is I can’t tell my parents at all because well my boyfriend’s 22 and we’re in love and we’re going to get married and everything, but like if they find out that — I don’t know what would happen.

CLINIC: Right. Okay. And we do offer prenatal care as well. What I’d probably need you to do is call our counselors. They can better assist you. Okay? You have to have counseling, and you will need parental consent.

CALLER: I can’t tell my parents at all.

CLINIC: Okay. I understand that. Can you hold on one moment?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: (pause) Ma’am?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Okay. Is there a number that we can reach you so that one of the counselors can call and talk with you, go over your options?

CALLER: I’m at my friend’s house and her mom’s here, so there wouldn’t be any way to call.

CLINIC: Okay. Can you call back in like 15 minutes?

CALLER: Oh. Who should I ask for?

CLINIC: You can ask to speak to Barbara.

CALLER: Barbara?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All righty.

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

(phone clicks)

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood, Virginia Beach Office. How may I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. Can I talk to Barbara?

CLINIC: This is she. Hold on one moment, okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. May I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. Can I talk to Barbara?

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: I was — my friend’s mom came in and I had to hang up real quick.

CLINIC: My name is Natishina Baldy (sp). I’m the clinical director.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Now, you’re 14 years old?

CALLER: Uh-huh. Well, I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: You’re 13.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: If you come in here and you tell me that your boyfriend is 22, I have to report it to the police.

CALLER: Well, what could — okay.

CLINIC: That is considered statutory rape. Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Upfront right now. Now, if you go to the courts and you’re 13 years old –

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: — you can go to the — you have to call the courts and find out where you go, and you get what they call just — you get a bypass.

CALLER: What’s that?

CLINIC: Where you can go to the court, tell them that you know what you want and that you don’t want your parents to know about it, and they will sign a paper and let you get the abortion.

CALLER: Okay. Well, like what if they say no?

CLINIC: Then you can’t do it.

CALLER: Well, what can I do then?

CLINIC: Not anything really. If you’re 13 years old, your parents have a lot of say about it. Where are your parents right now?

CALLER: They’re at home. I’m at my friend’s house.

CLINIC: Okay. And they don’t even know you’re pregnant?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: What will happen if they find out?

CALLER: I don’t know. I don’t want to find out.

CLINIC: Okay. The only thing you can do right now is to go to court.

CALLER: Okay. Do I need like a lawyer for that or anything?

CLINIC: No. No, no, no. You call them up and you ask — you tell them that you’re pregnant and that you want the abortion and that you’re underage, and ask them where you go from there.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, do they usually say no, or what?

CLINIC: They usually say yes, but we’ve never had a 13-year-old that’s come in. We’ve had 15-year-olds who come in.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay? The fact that you’re 13 — why can’t you tell your parents?

CALLER: Because they would totally — I don’t — they would flip out. Like they just hate my boyfriend because they think he’s too old, and they just — I can’t tell them at all.

CLINIC: Okay. You can’t leave the state because they can get him for kidnap. He’ll go to prison. He may even go to prison now, the fact that you’re pregnant.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Really.

CALLER: Okay. So like what can I do so that he doesn’t get in trouble?

CLINIC: He might get in trouble, period, okay? I’m not trying to be ugly to you, angel, but 13-year-olds and 22 is just too much. It really is.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: So what you need to do is, you need to call for the juvenile courts and find out what you can do as far as going through an abortion.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Now if you want to call me back, you can call me back at this number.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: 641-1295.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But I mean, what we’re talking about is some really some serious stuff, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So call me back at 641-1295 after you’ve called the courts. What county do you live in?

CALLER: Well, I live in Princess Anne.

CLINIC: Okay. I would call the courthouse for the juvenile courts and find out how you can go about signing papers so that you can sign for your own procedure. Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right. Can I have your first name?

CALLER: I’m Christine.

CLINIC: Christi? Okay? I’m Nancy.

CALLER: Hi.

CLINIC: Okay. So call me back, okay?

CALLER: Well, like if I talk to the court, like will they have to talk to my boyfriend or anything?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Hold on. Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#177 – Planned Parenthood in Hampton, VA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
910 W. MERCURY BLVD.
HAMPTON, VA 23666-4334
757-826-2079

TAPE – 177

(dialing sound) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Hampton Planned Parenthood. How can I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: We do at our Norfolk location but not at Hampton. We can counsel you at Hampton.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: The procedure’s done at Norfolk.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know if there’s a specific age limit for that? Like I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: You’ll be 14 in March?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: You need to have a parent come with you –

CALLER: Is there any way not to do that? Like my parents can’t find out at all, because like — well the problem is like my boyfriend’s 22, and we’re going to get married, but they hate him because they think he’s too old for me. So they can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: Okay. You know, I mean, you can’t get married at 14.

CALLER: Well, yeah, we were going to wait, but –

CLINIC: Okay. Where do you live?

CALLER: I live in Ark.

CLINIC: In where?

CALLER: Ark.

CLINIC: Where’s that?

CALLER: It’s north of where you’re at.

CLINIC: How far from me?

CALLER: I’m not real sure.

CLINIC: Okay. Who would bring you?

CALLER: My boyfriend.

CLINIC: Okay. When could you get here?

CALLER: I don’t know. I’d have to call him and see.

CLINIC: Okay. Is there a number I can call you back?

CALLER: Well, no. I’m at my friend’s house and her mom’s here, so.

CLINIC: Is her — does her mom know what’s going on?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Okay. Can you call me back in 20 minutes?

CALLER: What’s your name?

CLINIC: My name is Pam.

CALLER: All right. Okay. Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay, Sweetie.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

(phone clicks)

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Hampton Planned Parenthood. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wanting to talk to Pam.

CLINIC: She just went in with a patient. May I take a message for her?

CALLER: Well, is it all right if I talk — if I just call back later?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Okay, thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

(dial sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Hampton Planned Parenthood. How can I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. I was calling to talk to Pam.

CLINIC: Okay. Could you hold, please?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: (recorded music, long interval) Thank you for holding. How can I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. I was asking about like my boyfriend. Is Pam there?

CLINIC: Oh. She’s with a patient. Are you the one that came in yesterday, Christian?

CALLER: No, I didn’t’ come in. I was asking questions.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Hold on. (music)

CLINIC: This is Pam. How can I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. I was asking about like my boyfriend and stuff.

CLINIC: Yes. Okay, sweetie. First of all, there’s two things I wanted to let you know. Number one, you know that 14 and 22 is illegal in the state of Virginia, right?

CALLER: What? I don’t understand.

CLINIC: That relationship is illegal. It’s considered statutory rape.

CALLER: What could happen? I don’t — but we’re in love. I don’t understand.

CLINIC: I can certainly understand how you feel. I’m just telling you the law. Okay?

CALLER: Well, what could happen? What do I do?

CLINIC: What could happen is, is that you can go to the court and get a judgement that would allow you to have the procedure without your parents’ consent. You have to get to the courthouse, file the papers, pay the fees whatever it costs, and you’d have to call the courthouse nearest you and find out how you’d do it, okay? But when they, when your partner comes in they’re going to see that you are 14 and he is 22, and they may very well press charges.

CALLER: Oh. Well, what should I say about him?

CLINIC: I don’t know what you can say. It’s considered illegal. I mean, there’s — I don’t know what else to tell you except for the fact that in the state of Virginia that’s a reportable, illegal offense.

CALLER: Would they take him to jail or what? Like what do you mean?

CLINIC: Yes, they might.

CALLER: They wouldn’t.

CLINIC: They might.

CALLER: Well what — I don’t know what to do. Like — well, what if like — I don’t know.

CLINIC: I think that — first of all, when was your last period?

CALLER: It was the first week in December.

CLINIC: Your period was the first week in December? So you’re over 12 weeks pregnant.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, what does that mean?

CLINIC: Well, it means that in the state of Virginia you can only have a termination up to 14 weeks.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So you are — let me see here — you are 11 weeks today.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right? By my dates, okay? Which means you have three weeks to get your papers filed and get into a clinic.

CALLER: Okay. What if the –

CLINIC: If you don’t, it gets into the thousands of dollars to have the procedure done.

CALLER: Well, what if the judge says no?

CLINIC: He may say no, which means you’ll either have to tell mom and dad. I can tell you this much. If you don’t tell your parents, you run a much higher risk because of the problems that you’re going to face in terms of your age of having this baby. And if you don’t want to have this baby, I just really suggest that you tell your parents.

CALLER: I just can’t tell them at all.

CLINIC: Why not?

CALLER: Well, because they would totally flip out. I don’t know what they would do.

CLINIC: But they love you more than anything else. I mean, they want to do what’s best for you.

CALLER: They just don’t ever understand anything. I don’t — I can’t talk to them.

CLINIC: Who — how are you going to pay for this?

CALLER: My boyfriend was going to pay for everything.

CLINIC: Does he know how much it is?

CALLER: Well, he was — he was asking me to call and see.

CLINIC: Okay. You’re talking — you’re going to be looking at around $400 minimum, okay?

CALLER: Okay. All right.

CLINIC: Is that doable?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. You need to call your local courthouse and see what the procedures are, but I wanted to give you a heads up on the fact that the relationship you’re entering into, even though it’s consensual meaning both of you consent, can still be looked at and charges can still be brought.

CALLER: Okay. Are you going to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No, ma’am.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: As your physician, everything is confidential that you tell me.

CALLER: If I came in there for the pregnancy test, would you have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. Do you know if you’re pregnant?

CALLER: Well, I, I don’t know. I took a home pregnancy test over the weekend, and –

CLINIC: And did it come up positive?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay, then you’re pregnant.

CALLER: Oh, all right. Well, are there any way that it would be wrong?

CLINIC: Probably not. Those are pretty accurate if you took it the right way.

CALLER: Oh. Well, all right.

CLINIC: I mean, you could certainly come in and see me. I just — if you’re far away from me I hate for you to wait, you know, waste travel time. But if you would like to both come in and talk with me, I can, you know, give you some of your options and kind of lay down, you know, what the Virginia law is.

CALLER: Okay. Well, we could both come in and talk to you?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: All right. And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No, not at this time because it would just be a consult.

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay, sweetheart. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#178 – Planned Parenthood in Roanoke, VA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
2207 PETERS CREEK RD. NW
ROANOKE, VA 24017-1618
540-562-3457

TAPE – 178

(dialing sound) (ringing 1X)

RECORDING: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood of the Blue Ridge. To place an order for pill pickup press 1. To speak to someone in the clinic, press 2. (dial sound) Please hold for the clinic. (music) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood. This is Wanda. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: You do?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Do you have to be a specific age for that? Like I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: You’ll be how old in March?

CALLER: 14.

CLINIC: Okay. No, you don’t have to be a specific age, but being you’re a minor then your parents would have to sign the notification.

CALLER: They wouldn’t — is there any way not to do that, because like my parents can’t find out at all. Like my boyfriend’s 22, and we’re going to get married, but they hate him because they think he’s too old for me, and they just can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: Well, your boyfriend is 22 and you’re 13?

CALLER: Yeah. But I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: But by the law, honey, that’s considered as being statutory rape.

CALLER: What? I don’t — what do you mean? I don’t understand.

CLINIC: Well, by you being underage 13, and he’s 22, then even though you do consensual sex with him then the law states that your mother can charge him with statutory rape.

CALLER: Well, is there any way not to — like is there any way not to let them find out?

CLINIC: Well, and you still could not get married to him without her consent because you’re underage.

CALLER: Well, we were going to wait to get married, but –

CLINIC: You still have to get her consent.

CALLER: Okay. Well, what can I do?

CLINIC: Well, if you — you can go to the court. Are you in a city or county?

CALLER: I’m in Boonsmill.

CLINIC: Okay. In Boonsmill?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. You can call to the courthouse there and tell them you would like to get a judicial bypass.

CALLER: Okay. Do I need like a lawyer for that or anything?

CLINIC: No, uh-uh. Can you remember that?

CALLER: Judicial bypass?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay. Call them and tell them that you would like to come in for a judicial bypass. They will give you the instructions on what to do from there, when to come in, and what they need you to do.

CALLER: Okay. But then it would be all right and everything?

CLINIC: I’m sorry?

CALLER: Then it would be okay?

CLINIC: Well, the judge — you’d have to go before the judge.

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Okay? And then the judge will give you — he will either grant it yes or grant it no.

CALLER: What if he says no? What do I do then?

CLINIC: If he says no then you just be in the position to where you’re going to have to let your parents know because you can’t get it done without them being notified.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I don’t — there’s nothing else you can do besides that at all?

CLINIC: No. Uh-uh. So those are the only two options that you have as of right now.

CALLER: Well, does he usually say no?

CLINIC: Well, they usually — well, it all just depends on what the case is, but a lot of times, you know, the judge will go ahead and grant it. But it all just depends on what the circumstances is. Now, you may have to tell him that your boyfriend is that age.

CALLER: Well, what — if like I didn’t tell him, do you think he’d say yes and it would be all okay?

CLINIC: Well, I mean, he may — well, I really –

CALLER: Does he have to know?

CLINIC: Well, I don’t know exactly what questions he will ask you. But he might ask you that about the age of the, you know, of the guy you’re involved with. And so then it may portray a problem for your boyfriend but –

CALLER: What could happen to him? What do you mean?

CLINIC: But just don’t worry about that part right now. Just the important thing is just to go ahead. Do you know how far along you are?

CALLER: Well, my last period was like the first week in December.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, let me see, okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Hold on. Let me see. (pause) Okay. Now, what was the first day of your last period? You said December?

CALLER: Yeah. Well, it was probably like the 5th.

CLINIC: Okay, December 5th.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. Let’s see. Okay, December 5th, and today is the 15th. Okay. According to what you’re telling me if that is correct, okay, you are 10 weeks and about 3 days.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And we only do them up to 12 weeks.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: Up to 12 weeks, and let me see what we would have open to that time. Let me see. Okay. We have the 22nd available.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? The 22nd would put you at 11 weeks and 2 days.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: If that is correct according to the information you’re giving me, okay?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Do you want me to put you down here to go ahead and schedule you because you can’t do it past 12 weeks here, but Chartlottsville do them up to 13 weeks.

CALLER: Well, I would — I don’t know. I have to call my boyfriend to see when he can get off work and ask him.

CLINIC: Okay. Really by you being so close, so far along in the weeks, then he really — I mean, you’re going to have to make the decision yourself when to schedule because –

CALLER: Well, he’s the only way that I’d get there.

CLINIC: So if he say well –

CALLER: And he’s the only one that could pay for it.

CLINIC: So if he say he can’t get off from work, then what are you going to do?

CALLER: Well, he just has to — he can get off work. He just has to ask for it.

CLINIC: See I only have two slots open, and they can fill up right after we hang up.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You see? Because we have people calling in all the time, you know, just like you’re calling in. So you know, I could have somebody call in right after you do, and see I only have the two slots for the 22nd, and then see you can’t wait until –

CALLER: Okay, well, what are those slots?

CLINIC: Because you only have — I have two appointments that’s open for February the 22nd at 8:45 and then — but see if you wait any later that will put you too far.

CALLER: Okay. Well –

CLINIC: Because our next one we schedule would be on the 26th, and the 26th would put you past 12 weeks.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does it cost?

CLINIC: Okay. It’s $295. And then it would be an extra $75 if your blood type is negative.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So it would be about $370. It could cost $370.

CALLER: Okay. So like if he brings me in, do you guys have to tell anybody or anything?

CLINIC: No. Uh-huh. It’s strictly confidential.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: No, we don’t tell anybody. The only way they find out is if you tell them.

CALLER: Okay. So you guys wouldn’t tell about him or anything, and he wouldn’t get in trouble or anything?

CLINIC: Well, no, that’s not up to us to do.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: You know, that’s really not our call, but we have to let you know that by the law that is classified as statutory rape, and it could be some problems down the line.

CALLER: Oh, but you wouldn’t tell anybody or anything?

CLINIC: No, but we don’t — we just — when you come in to see us we treat you and strictly confidential.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So, but do you want to go ahead and schedule?

CALLER: Yeah. Well, I don’t — I guess.

CLINIC: See, it’s probably best to put your — to go ahead and schedule you because if you call back then the appointments may be taken.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And then we couldn’t schedule you until the 26th, but you would be too far then.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I guess go ahead and schedule me.

CLINIC: Okay. Now, are you at a phone to where you can write down some stuff?

CALLER: Well, I have a pen and paper.

CLINIC: Okay. First of all, I have to ask you some information. Do you have a few minutes?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. Because I have to ask you some information so we can set you up a file when you come in. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, like after the abortion could I come and get birth control too?

CLINIC: Yes, uh-huh.

CALLER: And you guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody about that either?

CLINIC: Not getting birth control pills. You don’t have to. Your mom doesn’t have to sign. You don’t have to get consent for that.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You can just come in and you will get an annual physical, okay? And then we can go ahead and give you birth control pills.

CALLER: But like, is it all right like if my boyfriend brings me and everything?

CLINIC: Yeah, um-hum.

CALLER: Okay. And you guys wouldn’t have to tell anything about him?a

CLINIC: No, uh-uh. No. He’s just — you would just come in. You know, we would just deal with you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Because you want to get birth control pills, that’s okay.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And you can come in and get them and –

CALLER: All right. Oh. Can I call you back in just a sec? My friend’s mom is about to be here. I got to let you go.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Okay. Bye.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

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