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#669 – Utah Women’s Clinic in Salt Lake City, UT

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UTAH WOMEN’S CLINIC
515 S. 400 E.
SALT LAKE CITY, UT 84111
801-531-9192

TAPE – 669

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Utah Women’s Clinic.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: If you are under 12 weeks it’s 450.

CALLER: Well, how do you know how many weeks you are?

CLINIC: We start counting from the first day of your last menstrual period.

CALLER: Oh. Well, that was like January 3rd.

CLINIC: January 3rd?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Yeah, you’re under 12 weeks.

CALLER: The thing is, I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: How old you are? I’m sorry.

CALLER: I’m 13. I’ll be 14 on the 20th.

CLINIC: We need to have one of your parents here.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Is there any way not to have my parents there? I mean, I can’t tell them at all.

CLINIC: No. But if you want I can give you the phone number in other state. You can talk to them about it.

CALLER: In another state?

CLINIC: Yeah, because here in Junta you need to bring one of your parents with you. That’s a problem. So you want it?

CALLER: Yes, please.

CLINIC: Dr. (unclear) Ambrino (ph). The phone number is 1-775-827-0616. Let me give you in Colorado. It’s 1-800-535-1287.

CALLER: Could I come in there for a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Yeah, you can come to the clinic.

CALLER: Would you have to tell anybody then?

CLINIC: No, not for a pregnancy test.

CALLER: The thing is, me and my boyfriend were talking about all this, and he said that he would pay for everything, but we don’t want anybody to know about us. Would he have to sign anything if he was paying for the pregnancy test?

CLINIC: The pregnancy test is free.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: The abortion is the one you have to have one of the parents with you.

CALLER: Oh, okay. If it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there too?

CLINIC: Yeah, we can do that.

CALLER: Would you have to tell anybody about birth control though?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay. I can’t drive. Would my boyfriend be able to pick up the pills if I had birth control?

CLINIC: No, you need to come and see the doctor.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Yeah, we make appointment to see the doctor. Probably they’ll be free for you, but you need to see the doctor.

CALLER: All right. I need to talk to my boyfriend and see if he had any questions. If I had any other questions, could I call and ask —

CLINIC: Just call me back, all right?

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Mariam (ph).

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right. Thank you. Bye bye.

***END***

#549 – Planned Parenthood in Park City, UT

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
PO BOX 682188
PARK CITY, UT 84068-2188
435-649-5989

TAPE – 549

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: We don’t. We do the consult, the 24-hour consult.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know of any place that does do abortions?

CLINIC: Yeah. You can go to Salt Lake or Heber. But you need to have a consult, like a 24-hour consult before you go and do an abortion.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: So you can come and do the consult, and then you can go to do the abortion anywhere you want to go.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, you know, I’m just worried about — my friend told me that since like I’m going to be 14 in March that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and you won’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Well, the abortion — we don’t, we don’t need any information, but the abortion people will ask you for an ID. You have to be 18. If not, your parents have to — they have to go with you. So, I mean, that’s nothing to do with us, but when you go to do the abortion you will have to show an ID or you will have to take your parents.

CALLER: Oh. So if I had an ID I wouldn’t have to take my parents?

CLINIC: Yeah. If you have an ID of 18, you don’t have to take your parents.

CALLER: Oh. Well, what if I wasn’t 18? Like I’m only 13. I’ll be 14 next month.

CLINIC: Yeah, you have — I don’t. I mean, I can ask the nurse. She’s with a patient. She can give you a call. Or do you want to call her back? Do you want to leave me a phone number?

CALLER: Oh. Well, I’m at my friend’s house and her mom would answer the phone, so I can’t leave that.

CLINIC: So do you want to call her like in half an hour?

CALLER: Well, I don’t know. Could I ask you real quick — could I come in for like a pregnancy test there?

CLINIC: Yeah, you can come and do this, and then you can speak with her.

CALLER: Oh. Well, I’m just worried because like I haven’t had my period since like December 21st, and I’m scared.

CLINIC: Yeah. You can come and get the pregnancy test, and then you can talk to her.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: If that’s okay for you.

CALLER: Well, it’s just me and my boyfriend were talking about all this. Like he said he would pay for it, so would it be all right if he came with me?

CLINIC: Yeah. That’s okay.

CALLER: Okay. Well, it’s just we don’t want my parents to know. Would he have to — if he’s paying for it, would he have to like sign anything?

CLINIC: For the pregnancy test?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: So nobody would have to know about us?

CLINIC: No one will know, no.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Everything is confidential.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control?

CLINIC: Yes, you can.

CALLER: It’s just, we don’t want to have to go through all this again.

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: But if I was on birth control you wouldn’t have to tell anybody either?

CLINIC: No. Nothing.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Everything is confidential. The only thing, the abortion people have to tell your parents. That’s all.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But we don’t tell anyone.

CALLER: Well, could I call you back if I had other questions? I Need to talk to my boyfriend. But what was your name?

CLINIC: Yvette.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

*** THE END ***

#550 – Planned Parenthood in Orem, UT

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1842 S. COLUMBIA LN.
OREM, UT 84097-8036
801-226-5246

TAPE – 550

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: I’m sorry. What?

CALLER: Do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: We do the informed consent.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: The Utah Women’s Clinic up in Salt Lake does the procedures. So you want their number?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. It’s 1-801-531-9192.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know, my friend told me that since like I’m going to be 14 in March she said that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody about anything?

CLINIC: No. They have to take, talk to your parents about it.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Well, is there any way not to tell my parents?

CLINIC: Who is your guardian?

CALLER: Huh?

CLINIC: Who’s your guardian?

CALLER: My parents.

CLINIC: Yeah, exactly. So that’s who they need to need to notify.

CALLER: Well, is there any way not to tell them, because they can’t find out all. I mean, if they found out I don’t know what would happen.

CLINIC: I know. Yeah. That’s a toughie, but they have to be notified.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: They’re probably going to have to go with you.

CALLER: Okay. Well –

CLINIC: You can give them a call. Utah Women’s Clinic. They’ll tell you about everything you want to know.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I just haven’t had my period yet since like, since December 21st. And that’s the main reason why I’m concerned about all this. But could I come in there for a pregnancy test to see?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell my parents about that?

CLINIC: No. Not at all. It’s confidential. You can come in today. They’re $5 today.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend would be the only way I could get there. Would that be all right if he’s there?

CLINIC: No, that’s not a problem.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just –

CLINIC: You can just come in any time.

CALLER: We were talking about all this, and we don’t want a whole bunch of people to know about us. So if he was paying for everything would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: No. No, no, no. All you have to do is just fill out a paper and we could do that, get urine sample, go (unclear) back again and we run the test and tell you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. You have to schedule an appointment.

CALLER: Oh. Well, how long does that take?

CLINIC: To the 11th of March. That’s when our next opening will be.

CALLER: No, like how long does it take to get the exam?

CLINIC: Until the 11th of March.

CALLER: Oh, well, how –

CLINIC: We’re filled up right now so.

CALLER: Huh?

CLINIC: We are booked right now.

CALLER: Oh. Well, I mean, like how long does it — like does it take a long time to do the actual exam itself, or –

CLINIC: No, no, no. Once you come in for your appointment it takes 30 to 45 minutes.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: All right. Well, I have actually a lot of questions that I can’t think of right now, but could I call and ask you? What was your name?

CLINIC: That’s fine. That is not a problem. It’s Ruth.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Not a problem. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

*** THE END ***

#551 – Planned Parenthood in Salt Lake City, UT

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
654 S. 900 E.
SALT LAKE CITY, UT 84102-3430
801-322-5571

TAPE – 551

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

RECORDING: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood. The clinic will be open on Monday February 18, President’s Day, from 9:00 until 1:00. If this is a medical emergency, please call 911. (Spanish interpretation) For information in English, please press 4. (dial sound) Thank you. One moment, please. The requested extension is unavailable. For information in English, please press 4. (dial sound)

Planned Parenthood is located at 654 South and 900 East. You do not need an appointment for emergency contraception or the morning after pills, pregnancy tests, and HIV tests. If you would like to make an appointment, please press zero. (dial sound)

Please hold for the operator.

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: We actually don’t, but I can give you the numbers of clinics that do.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: You have a pen?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: The Utah Women’s Clinic is 531-9192. And the Mountain View Women’s Center, 272-5289. And Wasach (sp) is 263-2111.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know, like my friend told me that since like I’m going to be 14 in March that they would have to tell my parents I’m getting an abortion. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: You know what? I’m not exactly sure of the laws on that, so I wouldn’t want to give you the wrong information. But I think that you do have to have parental consent at your age. I would call each clinic and see what the laws are on that. Don’t trust me for that answer. They do the abortions there, and so they’ll know for sure. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know — like I’m just really concerned about all this because I haven’t had my period since like December 21st, and I don’t know what to do.

CLINIC: Right.

CALLER: But could I come in there for a pregnancy test to see?

CLINIC: Yeah, you can. And also the Utah Women’s Clinic, the first number I gave you — well, each of these clinics will obviously do a pregnancy test. But I know for a fact that the Utah Women’s Clinic does free testing.

CALLER: Oh. Well, my friend said to come to you guys, so.

CLINIC: Yeah, you can do either one.

CALLER: And my boyfriend said he would pay for everything, so.

CLINIC: For the pregnancy test here it’s $10 if you want to come to us, and you can do that before 7:00 p.m. tonight.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: But like the thing is, me and my boyfriend were talking about all this, and we don’t want anyone to know about us. If he was paying for it would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: No. If you come in and do the pregnancy test with us, we don’t have to report necessarily.

CALLER: Report?

CLINIC: You can come in — report.

CALLER: What do you mean report?

CLINIC: When I mean report I mean you don’t have to have parental consent to come in here and get a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: So bring your boyfriend in, come and get it, $10, and we don’t tell anybody. The abortion might be a different story. You’d have to check with their clinics.

CALLER: Well, so, if I wasn’t pregnant could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Yeah, and that would be a separate appointment that we would have to make for that.

CALLER: Well, how long would it take to get birth control?

CLINIC: Depending on where our book is right now it would probably be a couple days out.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell anybody if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: Well, that’s actually kind of different than a pregnancy test. If the clinician — the clinician will be taking you back and talking with you about your situation. If she feels there’s something going on that doesn’t sound right to here, then she does need to report.

CALLER: Like what?

CLINIC: Like someone being a lot older than you that you’re having intercourse with. I’m not the one to make that call. The clinician would. So it’s just up to each clinician.

CALLER: Well, is it bad if like my boyfriend’s 22?

CLINIC: Actually, that might be one the case you might want to call, because that’s quite a bit older than — you know, as far as the state’s concerned. I’m not saying that you’re in a wrong situation. But that might be kind of a difference in age that they would be concerned about.

CALLER: Well, who would she have to report it to if she was –

CLINIC: It’s the Child Protective Services.

CALLER: Well, would my boyfriend get in trouble?

CLINIC: These are all questions you’d have to ask the clinician, and she’d be talking to you about it. It wouldn’t be out of your hands completely. But it is something to keep in mind if you come in to us for an appointment. We try and keep things confidential, but if it’s something the clinician feels a bad feeling about then she might want to — she might call and report it.

CALLER: So I shouldn’t tell her anything?

CLINIC: Well, that is true. You could, you could do that if you wanted to.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: So, you could change his age or something if you feel that you need to.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Don’t tell anyone I said that. (laughs)

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Come in for the pregnancy test, and if it’s negative we can make an appointment for the birth control.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, you’ve been a lot of help. If I had any other questions could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Audrey (Aubrey?).

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

*** THE END ***

#552 – Planned Parenthood in West Valley, UT

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
2107 E. 3500 S.
WEST VALLEY, UT 84119-3441
801-973-9675

TAPE – 552

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

RECORDING: Thank you for calling West Valley Planned Parenthood. On President’s Day our clinic will be open between the hours of 8:00 to 12:00 with limited services. These services are morning after pills, pregnancy tests, depo and Lunell (sp) shots, and (unclear). As you know, the Olympics are here. Our clinic hours during the Olympics are Monday through Friday between the hours of 8:00 to 4:00 p.m. and Saturday between the hours of 9:00 to 5:00 p.m. — during the Olympics only. Thank you.

Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood. For information in English please press 5. For information in Espanol — (dial sound) Planned Parenthood West Valley is located at 2107 West 3500 South. You do not need appointments for emergency contraception or the morning after pill, pregnancy tests or HIV tests. If you would like to make an appointment, please press zero. (dial sound)

Please hold for the operator.

CLINIC: Hello. West Valley.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: No?

CLINIC: Uh-uh. No.

CALLER: Well, do you know of any place that does?

CLINIC: You have to call 521-9192.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, do you know — like I’m just worried because my friend told me that since like I’m going to be 14 in March that they would have to tell my parents I’m getting an abortion. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody anything?

CLINIC: Nope. That’s not going to work. And actually your boyfriend could get in a lot of problems because you’re not 14 yet.

CALLER: Well, what kind of trouble? What do you mean?

CLINIC: With — let me tell you before you call them, okay? Because I know all the laws and I’m going to help you, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Your boyfriend could get in a lot of problems because you are under 14. If you go in and get an abortion you’re only 13, your boyfriend could get into — does your parents know that you’re dating somebody that old?

CALLER: Well, yeah, but they don’t know we’re having sex. That’s why they can’t find out. I mean, if they found out we were having sex, I don’t know what they would do.

CLINIC: They could press charges and put him in prison.

CALLER: Well, he would go to jail?

CLINIC: What?

CALLER: He would go to jail?

CLINIC: What?

CALLER: They would send him to jail?

CLINIC: It could happen. You’re only 13, and you’re pregnant, and your boyfriend is more than 21 — what 23?

CALLER: He’s 22.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. It could happen.

CALLER: Well, he can’t go to jail. I mean, he’s going to take care of me for the rest of my life. He can’t –

CLINIC: I’m just telling you what I know. I’m not telling you that’s going to happen or not. That’s going to depend on your parents. You’re only, you’re under 13.

CALLER: Well, what can I do?

CLINIC: I don’t know.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: I don’t know because I mean, either way you go to — either way you’re going to — because you’re only 13. That’s the whole case.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Okay? If you were — I think I’m not sure what the laws — I know that if you’re a minor, if you’re under 18, one of your parents have to sign for you to get an abortion in the state of Utah, but it has to be with your parents.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Well, I’m not really sure if I’m pregnant actually. I just haven’t had my period since like December 21st, and I’m scared.

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Well, is there any –

CLINIC: The whole thing is that you are 13.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: So that’s a big deal.

CALLER: Could I come in there for a pregnancy test to see if I was pregnant?

CLINIC: Yeah, but can you hold on? Let me find out something. If you come in here and do a pregnancy test because you’re under 13 we might have to kind of –

CALLER: Well, I’m 13 right now. I’m not under 13.

CLINIC: Right. Do you want to hold on for a second and let me find out?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on. Hello?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. Yeah. We would have to do the same thing. The only reason because you are 13.

CALLER: Oh, for like a pregnancy test I would have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: No, you wouldn’t have to tell your parents. What we do, we call the DFD.

CALLER: What is that?

CLINIC: That is — I think DFC or — it’s where child protective service. That’s DFS I think it is — child protective service. And what they do, they find out things like your boyfriend, this and that, and all the other things.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, so I couldn’t go in there for a pregnancy test without my boyfriend getting in trouble?

CLINIC: You don’t have to — we wouldn’t ask you hold old you are.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: You’re going to have to fill out a form where you put your date of birth. (talking low) Whatever you put in there is confidential. We don’t ask you.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: If you want, that’s up to you, you know, you have to be older than 14. So we don’t have to tell nobody.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? But you could come in and do a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Okay. Just don’t tell you guys that I’m 14?

CLINIC: I don’t know.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: But when is your birthday?

CALLER: March 19.

CLINIC: What?

CALLER: March 19, 1988.

CLINIC: Okay. So you’re only about — if you want — yeah. If you are older than 13 like I said, we could give you birth control.

CALLER: Oh, okay. And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Not if you’re older than 14.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: And don’t say nothing about how old your boyfriend is (speaking low).

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: So I’m just telling you so you know. But if you are 13 at this time, you might want to wait. If you’re not pregnant you might want to wait until you’re 14. Or if you could come in tomorrow if you want.

CALLER: Okay. Well, you’ve been a lot of help. Thanks. Well, if I thought of any other questions could I call and ask you? What’s your name?

CLINIC: Sara.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: I’m leaving in a few minutes, but tomorrow I’ll be here between 9:00 and 11;00.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: Okay. Good bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

*** THE END ***

#553 – Planned Parenthood in Logan, UT

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
550 N. MAIN ST. # 117
LOGAN, UT 84321-3984
435-753-0724

TAPE – 553

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Hello. This is Susan.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: We don’t. But, you know, we have information about, there’s some places in Salt Lake. We have a sheet about all the places that are nearby that do, and, you know, there’s like a 24-hour consultation they want you to have to kind of make sure you’ve thought of all our options. So we can do that 24-hour counseling service. And then we have some handouts that will give you other information.

CALLER: Well, could I ask you a quick question? I’m just worried about all this because, well my friend told me that since like I’m going to be 14 in March that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Would he able to sign whatever it is, and you guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: — 14.

CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 next month.

CLINIC: Yeah. Do you think you’re pregnant?

CALLER: Well, I’m not sure. I just haven’t had my period since like December 21st, and I’m worried.

CLINIC: Well, you can come in and get a pregnancy test. You know, the thing is, it is illegal for a guy that old to take advantage of someone your age if you’re just 14.

CALLER: He’s not taking advantage of me. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Yeah. And what you need to do is, you would have to work through Family Services because even though you want to grow up, you know, you’ve got a whole life ahead of you, and it is illegal for a guy to have sex with a girl less than four years younger than him.

CALLER: Well, what could happen?

CLINIC: You know, it just depends if you want to say that you’re okay, you know, you basically go through some screening. They just want to make sure you didn’t get forced into that situation and you feel good about yourself. Otherwise, I don’t have control over the law, you know. We can help you get some birth control, but we will also report, you know — we do have to report anybody under — let me ask. I think it’s under 15. Latieshea (sp)? She just ran by this doorway here. And we do have 14-year-olds, and then the only concern is, because he’s 22. He just — you know, he just should not be taking a 14-year-old wife. They just don’t want him to be doing that. If he’s 30 and you are, what, how old? How many years older than you is he, like 8?

CALLER: I think so.

CLINIC: No. He’s like — yeah, 8 years older than you and he wants to take an 8-year-younger wife. He can. But, you know, I guess our goal in this society is to let you finish high school and know how to function later on as you grow older. You know, if something happens to your relationship you will have missed out on a lot of growing up.

CALLER: Well, I’m just worried because I haven’t had my period since like December 21st. Could I come in there for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: You can come in here for a pregnancy test, yeah.

CALLER: Well, would anybody have to ask anything about him?

CLINIC: We’d have to ask your name. And we would — and you know, Family Services would probably check with your parents why you’re not being supervised at age 14 and allowed to go out and date people like that.

CALLER: So you would have to tell my parents if I come in for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: I leave that up to Family Services.

CALLER: Oh. Well, who is Family Services?

CLINIC: They’re just the state social workers. They’d probably stop by and try and find out how — you know, they try to be subtle, but it’s hard.

CALLER: So you guys would have to tell on me then?

CLINIC: Well, you know, I leave it to them to work with it. Is your mom home at all when you’re around, or — does she supervise you? You sound like you’re a mature person, and if you want to fight your case, it may be okay. But you know, our concern is that — you know, we wanted you to grow up a little bit more and it is just illegal for someone that old to be taking on someone who’s not old enough to know what your rights are.

CALLER: Well, what can I do? I mean, I don’t want to get in trouble.

CLINIC: Well, you know, if you’re pregnant, you’re pregnant, you’re going to need good healthcare, and at one point or other someone’s going to get a lecture. But, you know, in the long run I would say come in and get that urine test done and find out if you’re not pregnant, let’s help you get on birth control. And then, you know, you’re going to have to deal with stuff because you’re younger. It’s just part of the program.

CALLER: Well, if I didn’t say anything about my boyfriend, would you guys have to do anything then?

CLINIC: Oh, now you put me in a pickle. You know, at this point I guess not. We will ask you, you know, how old he is and how — you know, I can’t ask you how you met him, but I do have to ask you how old he is.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Yeah. And so, but come in and get the urine test done. If you’re not pregnant, then, you know, maybe we can just talk about it some more. It’s just that he can be — you know, how — does he work during the day?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: How often do you see him? How do you know he doesn’t have three or four girlfriends like you he’s taking advantage of?

CALLER: Well, he doesn’t. I mean, he’s a sweetheart. I mean, he’s a great guy. It’s just my parents –

CLINIC: Well, if he’s not using condoms and not making sure you’re on birth control, he’s not a real sweetheart. Does he want you to have a baby?

CALLER: Not right now. I mean, we want to get married first. But like, he’s already got a son like from the marriage that he’s in right now. I mean, he’s separated, and they’re going to — they’re going through a divorce. But.

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: But I mean, he takes real good care of his son. So.

CLINIC: Um-hum. Well, I just — oh, I don’t know. Those are the kinds of things that Family Services would deal with. You know, that’s not — I just have to go with what the law is. I say, come in and get a pregnancy test. Let’s find out. If you’re not pregnant, we can help you get on birth control, and we will not, not give you birth control. We just, you know, need to kind of let them evaluate, and if they think it’s an okay relationship you’re all right.

CALLER: Oh. Well, if I was on — if I wasn’t pregnant and I was on birth control, would you guys have to tell — would you guys have to report it then?

CLINIC: Just the, you know, just initially. And it’s not — it goes very confidentially. It doesn’t come where it’s come from or anything. They just have to go out and, you know, either check your school records or through your home.

CALLER: Well, I’m homeschooled.

CLINIC: As to your well-being. They might just check with your parents to see if –

CALLER: But if my parents found out anything — I mean, they can’t find out that we’re having sex. I don’t know what they would do if they found out.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: They can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: Okay. But if you’re pregnant, what are they going to find out?

CALLER: Well, that’s why I want to get an abortion.

CLINIC: Yeah. Okay. You know, I can’t — you know, those are things that are kind of hard to hide from parents forever. You know, if he’s not already helping you get on birth control ahead of time, if you’re not pregnant and you want to come in and visit about it, we could possibly get you on birth control. But, you know, usually not if he’s more than four years older than you.

CALLER: Oh. So basically if I come in there and talk to you guys you’re going to have to, might tell my parents in some way?

CLINIC: I’m not going to call your parents at all. I’m going to call Family Services, and they’re going to do their own investigation.

CALLER: So as soon as I walk in the door you guys would have to tell the Family Services people?

CLINIC: No. Well, yeah, basically because your partner’s 22 years old.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: I’m not going to call– well, why don’t you come do a urine test? If it’s negative, let’s just go from there. We don’t have to report anything if we’re doing a urine test.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And then, I’m trying to think of ways that we can help you. Family — you can go talk to Family Services and see what they can do. If you plead your case that you feel like you’re an independent minor and can handle this then that’s their decision, not mine.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You know? So you might want to go talk to them.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Does that help you any?

CALLER: Well, yeah.

CLINIC: I mean, I just have to be honest with you. I can’t share that I’m going to break the law and do something if they make the decision and not me, if they feel like you’re, you know somebody’s taking advantage of you and you’re just too naive to know that, then they have a right to talk to your parents.

CALLER: Oh. All right.

CLINIC: Okay? But I don’t. The only thing I have to do is call them and say, you know we have this really young person and it may be if they get reports from other sides that there’s something going on in your home that you’re not supervised like you should be, then you’re in trouble. You know? And some of these guys are trying to get 10 and 12-year-olds, wooing them over the Internet and stuff. We don’t want that happening in our society. So, I don’t know. You have to plead your case if you feel like what’s going on is good. You’re already kind of doing it behind your parents’ back.

CALLER: Well, I mean, they know him. I mean, I met him because he worked with my dad. But I don’t know.

CLINIC: Do they know you’re dating him?

CALLER: Yeah. They just don’t know we’re having sex.

CLINIC: They just don’t know what?

CALLER: They just don’t know we’re having sex.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. All right. Well, come in and do your urine test and find out what’s going on.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: And then, you know, then I’ll send you over to Family Services and you can talk to them and see what you can justify. If the test is negative, that’s a good thing. You really need to get on birth control. And I can put you on birth control, but I – -I think I can. When did you turn 14?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 March 19.

CLINIC: So you’re not even 14 yet?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: Okay. Come in and do the urine test and ask for Susan, okay? And I’ll find out what information I can for you, whether I can help you at all or not. All right? I’m here until — we’re here until 5:00.

CALLER: Okay. And you’re Susan?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay. You know where we’re at?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Thanks.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

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#554 – Planned Parenthood in Ogden, UT

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
4387 HARRISON BLVD. # D8
OGDEN, UT 84403-3267
801-479-7721

TAPE – 554

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: We don’t. We do the counseling that’s required before them, but we don’t perform the abortions here.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know of any place that does, or –

CLINIC: There’s a few clinics in Salt Lake that do. I can give you the numbers if you want them.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay, that is –

CALLER: Well, what do I have to do, like, before, like coming in there?

CLINIC: It’s just a 24-hour counseling thing, just so you know what’s going to happen.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just — I’m just really worried about all this because like my friend told me that since like — well I’m almost 14. Like I’ll be 14 next month. And she said that you guys would have to tell my parents I’m getting an abortion. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of everything and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I’m not sure. You’d have to ask the clinic. We don’t — since we don’t do it here we don’t know all the answers.

CALLER: Oh. Well, I’m just scared because I haven’t had my period since like December 21st, and I don’t know if I really am pregnant, but I just haven’t had my period in awhile. I’m worried.

CLINIC: Okay. If you want, you can come in and take a pregnancy test to be sure that you are.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Yeah, before you actually call the clinic. They’ll ask you if you are, and if you say that you don’t know, then they’re just going to send you to get it anyways.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you guys have to tell my parents if I was getting a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No, we don’t have to inform anybody on a pregnancy test. You just come in, and we do it for you.

CALLER: Okay. Well, it’s just, me and my boyfriend were talking about all this, and we didn’t want anyone to know about us. Like he said he was going to pay for everything, but if he paid for everything would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: I don’t know. I don’t — about on the pregnancy test you can just come in, you know. He doesn’t have to do anything, and we won’t tell anybody about that.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: But on the abortion, I don’t know. You’d have to talk to the clinic.

CALLER: So for the pregnancy test he could be there with me?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Yes.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, would I be able to get birth control?

CLINIC: If you had an exam within the past year. If not, we’d have to do a pap smear.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: And then we could start you on birth control if everything’s okay.

CALLER: Well, is there like any age limit for birth control?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So would you have to tell anybody if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No. No. We just have your chart here, and it’s confidential. Nobody knows but whoever you tell.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, when do you guys normally do pregnancy tests?

CLINIC: We can do them anytime between 9:30 and 4:00.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But let’s see, let me think. We do them for free on Mondays.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: The regular cost for them is $15.

CALLER: Oh. Well, I just have a lot of questions. I don’t know. But is it all right if I call you and talk to you? What’s your name?

CLINIC: Yvette.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: Okay. You’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

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