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#457 – Planned Parenthood in Austin, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
12885 RESEARCH BLVD. # 101 A
AUSTIN, TX 78750-3223
512-331-1288

TAPE – 457

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: We sure don’t, but I’ve got some numbers of places that do.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Have a pen?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. I have the Austin Reproductive Services. The number’s 458-8274. I have the Austin Women’s Health Center. The number’s 443-2888. And I have one more if you’d like it. 835-6403. That’s the Austin Community Healthcare Center.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know if — well, I’m just really worried because like I’m going to be 14 in March and my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents. But like my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. Yeah, you have to be 18 in order to get an abortion in Texas. So if that was — have you done a pregnancy test?

CALLER: No. I’m just really scared because I haven’t had my period since like December 21st.

CLINIC: Okay. What you would want to do is, if it ends up that you are pregnant I can give you some numbers to call. Hold on one second for me, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: (pause)

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CLINIC: Okay. Still there?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. If you find out that you are pregnant and you, you know, your parents won’t go with you to get an abortion or they won’t let you, you can call this number, and these people could possibly help you out.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? You have a pencil?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. It’s 1-866-999-5263.

CALLER: Okay. And who are they exactly?

CLINIC: This is a — it’s called Jane’s Due Process, and it’s an organization that works for equal access for Texas minors to abortion.

CALLER: Okay. Does it cost anything?

CLINIC: Probably very, very little.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: But you might want to give them a call and just — first of all, you’re going to want to do a pregnancy test to make sure before you start calling, you know, them.

CALLER: Well, could I go in there for, where you’re at and do it?

CLINIC: Yeah, you can come in here and do a pregnancy test. You can do that. It runs $20.

CALLER: Okay. Well, he said he was going to pay for everything, but we didn’t want anyone to know anything about us. Would you guys have to know about him and ask questions, or –

CLINIC: I don’t have to know anything about him as long as you don’t tell me.

CALLER: Okay. Okay. Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys have birth control there?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: You do?

CLINIC: Yeah. We would have to set you up an appointment to meet with the nurse.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay? So that would be –

CALLER: It’s just I don’t want to have to go through all this again, so.

CLINIC: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So then you need to do a pregnancy test and figure out where you are from there.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if I was on birth control, would you guys have to tell anybody that I was?

CLINIC: No. I wouldn’t have to tell anybody that you were on birth control. No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: No. No. I just don’t want to know anything about your boyfriend. All right?

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, it’s just I don’t drive. Would he be able to pick it up though? I mean, I’m not old enough to drive yet. He would be the only way I could pick them up.

CLINIC: Right. Yeah, as long as they know he’s not your boyfriend.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: Yeah. I need to not know that. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. You’ve been a big help. What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Janet. You just need to — you know, because you all are treading on some treacherous ground there with the age differences. Do you know what I’m talking about?

CALLER: No, not really.

CLINIC: Okay. Because you’re -

CALLER: What do you mean?

CLINIC: Well, he’s a whole lot older than you, and he could — he could get himself into some trouble.

CALLER: What kind? What do you mean?

CLINIC: Well, he could go to jail because there’s a big age difference.

CALLER: He could go to jail?

CLINIC: He could if someone pressed charges.

CALLER: But we’re in love. We’re going to get married. Why would — he’s, he has to be there to take care of me. I don’t understand.

CLINIC: I know, sweetie, but it’s because you’re a minor.

CALLER: But he loves me. I mean — he’s the only one that’s there for me.

CLINIC: I understand. I’m just telling you for your own, for your own knowledge, okay? It’s not a Planned Parenthood rule. It’s a Texas rule.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: So it’s better just not to have him involved, or not to say anything?

CLINIC: Right, not to, not to say that there’s — yeah. So tell me, how old are you?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Okay, 14, and are your parents around here, or –

CALLER: Oh, I live with my parents.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: But they just can’t — like they know we’re going out, but they just don’t really like him because they think he’s too old for me. But I mean, he’s only 22. I mean, he’s not that old.

CLINIC: Right. But –

CALLER: And he loves me, and we’re happy.

CLINIC: Right.

CALLER: And he’s the only one that ever listens to me.

CLINIC: Yeah, and I’m glad that he’s there for you. I am. I’m glad that he is, but the age difference in Texas if you all are having sex, it would be reportable if anybody wanted to report it.

CALLER: But you wouldn’t have to report him if we came in there?

CLINIC: Not if I didn’t know about it.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: Um-hum. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#447 – Planned Parenthood in Dickinson, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
3315 GULF FWY
DICKINSON, TX 77539-4116
281-337-4618

TAPE – 447

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Good afternoon. Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, ma’am. Do you have (unclear) Houston, Galviston?

CALLER: I live in Dixon or Dickenson.

CLINIC: Okay, let me give you that number for that place, okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: It’s the one in Denton, Houston, and it’s 713-535-2400.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know like — I’m just worried because like my friend told me –

CLINIC: Hold on one second for me, please. Okay? Don’t hang up. Hold on. (pause) Thank you for hold. What was the –

CALLER: Well, I’m just worried because my friend told me that since like I’m going to be 14 in March she said that they would have to tell my parents.

CLINIC: That’s right.

CALLER: But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just — is he old enough to care of it and –

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: — they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. No, they would have to tell your parents.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Well, would there be any way not to have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: No. No, because of your age.

CALLER: Oh. Well, but I can’t tell them at all. I mean, I don’t know what they would do if they found out.

CLINIC: Yeah. But you know, you understand that’s it because of the law they have to report it to your parents.

CALLER: Well, so there’s no way not to tell my parents at all?

CLINIC: Um-hum. You already know you’re pregnant?

CALLER: Well, not really. I’m just scared because I haven’t had my period since like December 21st.

CLINIC: Have you had a home pregnancy test or anything like that?

CALLER: No. But could I come in there for a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Yeah, you can come in over here for a pregnancy. It’s only be like $25.

CALLER: Oh. Would you have to tell my parents though?

CLINIC: For a pregnancy test?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: No. No. Let me find out about that. How old are you?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March. I’m 13 right now.

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on one second, okay? (pause) Okay, thank you for holding. Okay. They say yes.

CALLER: They said they would have to tell if I was getting a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No. Not your parents, but they’re going to have to report it to CPS.

CALLER: Oh. Well, who is that?

CLINIC: Child protective service.

CALLER: Well, what would happen?

CLINIC: Because you’re 13 years old they have to report it that you’re, you know, sexually active and all that.

CALLER: Well, could I get in trouble?

CLINIC: Yes, ma’am.

CALLER: Well, what would happen?

CLINIC: They have to report it, so I know CPS going to call your parents and all that kind of stuff and try to talk to your parents and see what’s going on.

CALLER: But they can’t tell my parents. I mean –

CLINIC: I know what you’re saying, but you know that’s the way it goes. I know you don’t want them to find out or whatever. What I can tell you, maybe just go ahead and go to the pharmacy, get you one of those home pregnancy tests and see.

CALLER: Would they have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Just buy it or go to K-Mart, WalMart and get you one of those over-the-counter pregnancy tests and just do it yourself, just follow the instructions.

CALLER: Well, after that, like if I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: You can, but you have to wait until you’re 14 because we still have to report it to CPS if you come now.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Just make sure you wait until you’re 14. So you’re going to have sex, make suer you use condoms.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: But, well — you’ve just — thanks. What was your name?

CLINIC: Hmm.

CALLER: You’re just so nice. I don’t know what — if I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Judith.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right then. Bye bye.

CALLER: Thanks.

(phone clicks)

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#458 – Planned Parenthood in Austin, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
2919 MANCHACA RD. # 100 A
AUSTIN, TX 78704-4817
512-441-5421

TAPE – 458

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Betsy.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: We don’t, but I’m happy to give you numbers of places that do.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Are you here in South Austin?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. The closest one to Austin is the Austin Women’s Health Center. Their number is 443-2888.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: But there are other ones in town too. The Ladies Center. Their number is 835-6403. And then the Austin Women’s Health Center is 443-2888.

CALLER: Okay. Well, it’s just — my problem is, like I can’t tell my parents because like –

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Oh, okay.

CALLER: But is there any way I wouldn’t have to tell my parents? Like my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of it and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Well, you do need a letter from a judge saying that you’re mature enough to make your own decisions and that your parents don’t need to be notified. That’s called a judicial bypass.

CALLER: Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: Well, it should be free. It just takes a little bit of time. And there’s actually a place here in town that specializes in that, and if you’ll — if I can put you on hold for a second I’ll get their phone number.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Thanks.

RECORDING: (music) — stay on the line and a staffmember will be happy to give you more information. (music)

CLINIC: Okay. Their number is 1-866-wwwjane — so what is that? It’s 999-5263.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: And tell me what — the judicial bypass is a fairly straightforward thing here in Austin, and I know abortion clinics can certainly help you with that too. Do you have any idea how far along you are?

CALLER: Not really. I’m just really worried because like my last period was like December 21st, so.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. You can come here for a pregnancy test if you want.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Yeah, and it costs $20.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, that would be cool. But would you guys have to tell my parents about that though?

CLINIC: No, we wouldn’t, except that anyone who’s 13 or under who has a positive pregnancy test — and this is anywhere in Texas including the clinic — is required by law to make a phone call to the Child Protective Services.

CALLER: Why?

CLINIC: Just because it’s kind of a warning sign. It tends to be that people who are pregnant when they’re under 14 years old, it just happens that a higher percentage of those people are victims of abuse.

CALLER: Really? But I’m not being abused. Like my boyfriend, we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Yeah. Yeah. And that’s great, and Child Protective Services probably wouldn’t even call. I just kind of wanted to give you a heads up about that because that’s a good thing to know beforehand. That’s not — I’m sure that they would just make the phone call and then nothing else would happen. And certainly we would tell Child Protective Services to not call because you don’t want your parents to know and all that kind of stuff.

CALLER: Yeah. Well, what do you mean there’s like a higher percentage? I mean –

CLINIC: Well, it happens that — okay, imagine this. If like a 9-year-old was pregnant. I mean, to me that would be a problem.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Yeah, she probably wasn’t wanting to be pregnant. And you sound like you’re really together, and you know to call us, and you’re going to do the next steps, and that’s fine. So you’re a little bit different. But someone who’s 10 years old and pregnant, a lot of times that’s not a good situation for her to be in. And that happens sometimes to people who are 11 years old too. So you sound like you’re a little bit different from the average, but there are just — it tends to be that when people are like 11 years old, 12 years old, even 13 years old sometimes when they’re pregnant that’s kind of a red flag. Sometimes saying maybe we should check into this situation to make sure they’re okay. For us, checking into that situation that’s all we need to hear is you say that you’re fine and you guys are happy, and that kind of thing, and that it’s your choice to have sex.

CALLER: Oh. So if we were all right you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Well, we would still have to call, but that would be the end of it. All we have to do is write down a case number so that basically they know that we checked with you to make sure that you were okay. Yeah. So we definitely would not tell your parents. Child Protective Services probably wouldn’t either.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just me and my boyfriend have been talking about this, and we don’t, we just don’t want anybody to know about us.

CLINIC: Yeah. No, for sure. And all of our services — beyond that law, I mean, that’s the law by the state of Texas, and beyond that law we certainly would respect your confidentiality.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted you to kind of know about that beforehand.

CALLER: Okay. But –

CLINIC: Yeah. But other than that, no, you’re fine. And I really — yeah. No, you’re fine. It’s nothing to be concerned about. I just wanted to let you know.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: They will be like asking that question.

CALLER: So like if my boyfriend was there with me would you guys have to tell on him or anything?

CLINIC: Oh, no. Uh-uh.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: No, we wouldn’t.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Yeah. Yeah.

CALLER: Even if like it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant?

CLINIC: If you weren’t pregnant? Then we wouldn’t have to do anything.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, could I get on birth control if I wasn’t pregnant?

CLINIC: Absolutely. Yeah, you can do that with us.

CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about that either?

CLINIC: No, not at all. That’s a good question, but we don’t tell anybody about that stuff. It’s just that the state of Texas says if there’s a positive pregnancy test then we have to do this.

CALLER: Oh, okay. It’s just I would rather be on birth control so we don’t have to go through all this again.

CLINIC: Yeah, absolutely. And you know, you can start using condoms now if you want. You can come in before 5:00 today for a pregnancy test or tomorrow between 9:00 and 12:00 and 2:00 and 5:00.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I’d have to call my boyfriend to see, but probably tomorrow afternoon maybe.

CLINIC: Okay, and we take cash or credit card for that. I’m Betsy. I know your story. You can ask for me so that you don’t have to go through the whole thing again.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: If you want you can just walk in any time between 2:00 and 5:00 tomorrow afternoon, and we take cash or credit cards for that.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: It’s $20.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right, thanks.

CALLER: Thanks. Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#437 – Planned Parenthood in Fort Worth, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
3863 MILLER AVE.
FORT WORTH, TX 76119-2965
817-536-4942

TAPE – 437

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood. This is Sonja. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Let me give you a number, okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: 817-882-1175. Okay?

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, do you know — it’s just I’m worried because like my friend told me that since, well, I’m going to be 14 in March, she said that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. Your parents have to be notified.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Well, is there any way not to tell them at all? Like I don’t know what would happen if they found out.

CLINIC: When you call them, ask them what all you can do to do it, keep him them from finding out. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know — like, well could I come in there for a pregnancy test then?

CLINIC: Yeah. They’re $15.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, would you guys have to tell anybody that I was getting a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No. We don’t have to tell any — the only thing we have to tell is when you’re doing an AB.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You have to come in between 1:00 and 4:30. Okay?

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend can bring me. Is that all right if he’s there with me?

CLINIC: Yeah. That’s fine.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: He can’t come to the back until after we talk to you, and then after we talk to you he can come back there. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, he said that he would pay for everything. Would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: So nobody has to know about him or anything?

CLINIC: Uh-uh.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: If it ended up that like after the pregnancy if it said that I wasn’t pregnant, would I be able to get birth control?

CLINIC: We can see if how many people show up. If a lot of people don’t show up we’ll let you stay.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? And the exams start at $35.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody –

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: — if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No. Nobody has to know.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay. And what was your name again?

CLINIC: Sonja.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#448 – Planned Parenthood in Bryan, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
4112 E 29TH ST
BRYAN, TX 77802-4302
979-846-1744

TAPE – 448

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Sara. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: How many weeks along?

CALLER: I’m not really sure. I just –

CLINIC: The first day of the last period?

CALLER: It was December 21st.

CLINIC: Okay. It will be $390 at this point.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know, like — do you know if I have to be — like, well, I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents I’m getting an abortion. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he — is he old enough to take care of it and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. By law we have to at least notify your parents. They don’t have to give consent, but they have to be notified.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: I just — is there any way not to tell my parents? Because I don’t know what would happen if they found out. I mean, they can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: Basically by law, there’s really nothing else we could do. There is a thing called a judicial bypass. You have to go through the court system to do that. And it usually takes quite a while.

CALLER: Oh. Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: I don’t know. You’d have to call the courthouse and talk to hem about it.

CALLER: Oh, would they have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: No, that’s the whole reason.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: To call them is to not have to tell your parents.

CALLER: Okay. Well, does the judge ever say no or anything?

CLINIC: Actually, nobody’s ever tried it in this county before.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Have you already taken one at home?

CALLER: No. I didn’t know if the ones that you could take at home were right.

CLINIC: Yes, they’re pretty dang accurate.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Yep.

CALLER: Okay, well, could I come in there anyways and take one?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: I just don’t know — I just would rather have you guys do that.

CLINIC: Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. And how old are you?

CALLER: Huh?

CLINIC: You’re 14 you said?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Okay. It would be, I believe, $10 to have that done.

CALLER: Okay. Well, me and my boyfriend talked about all this, and we decided that like he was going to pay for everything, but we don’t want anyone to know about us or anything. Would you guys ask any questions or anything?

CLINIC: By law we’re required to.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Um-hum. By law. There’s nothing we can do besides follow the law.

CALLER: Oh. Would he get in trouble or anything?

CLINIC: There’s a possibility.

CALLER: Well, what could happen?

CLINIC: It just depends on what the court system would decide to do.

CALLER: Well, if I came in for a pregnancy test you would have to talk to the court?

CLINIC: Yes. We would have to call and report it to the Child Protective Services.

CALLER: Oh. Okay. Well, so like even if the pregnancy test came out that I wasn’t pregnant?

CLINIC: Correct.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: If you just came in for a pregnancy test on your own and if you didn’t fill out like — basically you don’t really have to fill out too much paperwork when you come in for a pregnancy test. And if you just — it’s hard to explain to you, but whatever you write down is what we ask you about. If you don’t write it down we don’t ask you.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So if I came in without him and the pregnancy test said that I was not pregnant, could I get birth control?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Would you guys have to tell anybody that I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: Nope.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Yep.

CALLER: Okay. Okay. Well, so just when I’m signing stuff don’t tell everybody everything?

CLINIC: You know, I can’t really say that but I’ll just tell you that anything that you list we have to ask you about.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Does that make sense?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. And if you wanted to make an appointment, I could definitely do that for you.

CALLER: Oh, what time?

CLINIC: Our next appointment would be Wednesday.

CALLER: Okay, what time on Wednesday?

CLINIC: We have morning and afternoon.

CALLER: Afternoon would probably be better.

CLINIC: Okay. How about 3:30?

CALLER: Yeah, I guess.

CLINIC: And what’s your name?

CALLER: Christine.

CLINIC: And what’s your last name?

CALLER: Smith.

CLINIC: What’s your phone number?

CALLER: Well, do you guys really need that?

CLINIC: Just in case we need to reschedule. Is there a phone number that we could call in case, you know, like if somebody gets sick and we have to reschedule the appointment?

CALLER: Oh. Well, my boyfriend got a new cell phone. Could I give you that number?

CLINIC: That’s fine.

CALLER: Okay, well I don’t know it yet because he just got it, but can I give you that? Like can I call you back with that?

CLINIC: That’s fine.

CALLER: All right. Well, what was your name so that I can call you back?

CLINIC: This is Sara.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Was there anything else you needed?

CLINIC: I don’t think so. We’ll just see you Wednesday the 27th at 3:00 if for some reason I don’t talk to you again.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#459 – Planned Parenthood in Waco, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
PO BOX 1518
WACO, TX 76703-1518
254-759-5750

TAPE – 459

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

RECORDING: Thank you for calling the Planned Parenthood Ross Street Clinic. To hear this menu in English, press 1. (dial sound) To make an appointment at this clinic, press 1. (dial sound) Please hold while I transfer your call.

We help individuals make informed decisions and responsible choices about their fertility and reproductive health, reduce, teen pregnancy, provide counseling for all –

CLINIC: Thank you for calling the Planned Parenthood. This is Alice for Surgi Clinic. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: We do them at the Columbus clinic.

CALLER: Okay. Do you have that number?

CLINIC: Yes. It’s 759-5772.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I’m just worried because like I’m — well, I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents that I was getting an abortion. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is –

CLINIC: No, no.

CALLER: — and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: There is a law that if you’re under 17 years old and you’re going to get an abortion, your parents do have to be notified.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: In fact, they have to come with you, your legal guardian or your parent has to come with you to sign an affidavit.

CALLER: Oh. Well, is there any way not to do that, because I don’t know what would happen if they found out. I mean –

CLINIC: The only way you can do that is you have to get ahold of a lawyer, and the judge has to overrule, has to overrule the parents consent and that they will give you a paper to bring to us.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But the only way you could do that is, you have to get ahold of a lawyer.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: And he takes it before a judge. And the judge would give you a form saying that, you know — in other words, you got to tell the judge why it wouldn’t be a good idea for your parents to know.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: And if the judge gives his okay, then you bring that paper to us.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does a lawyer cost?

CLINIC: I have no idea.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know if the judge ever says no?

CLINIC: I don’t know because the people go to different judges. There have been some cases where they bring the letter from the judge.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But it’s just a law now that if you’re under 17 and getting an abortion your parents do have to sign. Your parent or your legal guardian.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I’m just scared because like the whole reason is because like I haven’t had my period since like December 21st, and I don’t know what to do.

CLINIC: So how far along do you think you are?

CALLER: I’m not really sure.

CLINIC: You’re not sure. Okay. Well, they cost $190 if you’re under 13 weeks. And you say your period was started when?

CALLER: December 21st was my last period.

CLINIC: Okay, that’s when it started?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay, December 21st. Let me see how far along you are. December 21st. And this is February the 25th. Okay. You would still be considered first trimester. You really will have to get in there like kind of quick, like next Wednesday. We do abortions only on Wednesday mornings, and you will have to, you know, call over there and make your appointment.

CALLER: Well, could I come in for like a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Yeah, you can get a pregnancy test. I mean, if you get just the pregnancy test it’s $10.

CALLER: Oh, okay. My boyfriend said he would pay for anything, for everything. But we were talking about all this, and we decided that we didn’t’ want anyone to know about us. Would you have to say anything to him? Like he would be the only way I could get there.

CLINIC: Do we have to say anything to your boyfriend?

CALLER: Huh? Yeah. Well, he said he would pay, but he’s just worried. He doesn’t want to sign anything.

CLINIC: Okay. No, he doesn’t have to sign anything for the pregnancy test.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: He doesn’t. As far as him — I mean, if you want us to tell him about your pregnancy we can, but if you don’t want us to we don’t have to.

CALLER: Well, he already knows. I mean –

CLINIC: Oh, okay. Okay.

CALLER: He’s taking care of everything. So.

CLINIC: As far as the abortion, you do have to have parents’ consent. Okay? That parent has to be there to sign.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes. We do it here at the Ross Clinic and at the Columbus Clinic.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, would you guys have to tell anybody if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No. No.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: No. Not if you’re on birth control.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know, like I’m not old enough to drive, but would my boyfriend be able to pick up the pills if –

CLINIC: No. You have to come in yourself.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? If you decide to go to the Columbus Clinic, the number there is 759-5772.

CALLER: Okay. Well, thank you.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: You’ve been real helpful. What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Alice.

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#438 – Planned Parenthood in Fort Worth, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
2470 JACKSBORO HWY
FORT WORTH, TX 76114-2201
817-625-2891

TAPE – 438

(dialing sounds) (ringing 7X)

CLINIC: Northside Planned Parenthood. Martha. Can you hold one second?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Thank you for holding. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Not here at this clinic. I could give you the number.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: 882-1175.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Where is that exactly?

CLINIC: It’s 817 the area code, and they’ll give you instructions.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I was actually talking to someone at a Ft. Worth number. It was Kathy, and she told me to talk to you guys about it.

CLINIC: Okay, but we don’t do them here at this clinic. That’s why I’m giving you that number. Just tell them that you need a number — that they do them here in Ft. Worth. Because this is not the number. All right?

CALLER: Okay. It’s just — I’m just worried because like I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is it all right if he takes care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I don’t have any information on that. Just call that number — 882-1175. They should be able to answer all your questions.

CALLER: Okay. Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: After for a pregnancy test or before?

CALLER: Like could I come in there for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: I don’t know if I’m pregnant.

CLINIC: Yes, you can come in here from 1:00 to 3:00 today.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No, we don’t. Everything’s confidential.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything. Would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: I don’t know about that, about abortion. I don’t know about that.

CALLER: Well, like for the pregnancy test.

CLINIC: Oh, for the pregnancy test? He could pay.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: That’s not a problem.

CALLER: Well, he wouldn’t have to sign anything if he was paying for it?

CLINIC: No, he don’t have to sign. He don’t have to sign anything.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell anybody that I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No. Everything’s confidential here.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, so it’s all right if like my boyfriend’s there with me for that too?

CLINIC: Well, not inside for your exam. He will come in, you know, for your visit but outside.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I just have so many questions, and I’m confused. I don’t know what to do. But is it all right if like I call you back? What was your name?

CLINIC: You can go ahead and call us back.

CALLER: Okay. Well, what was your name?

CLINIC: Josie.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Okay, bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#449 – Planned Parenthood in San Antonio, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
120 W. ASHBY PL
SAN ANTONIO, TX 78212-5838
210-736-2475

TAPE – 449

(dialing sounds) (ringing 3X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Lisa. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Not this clinic, ma’am, but the one on Babcock. You want the number over there?

CALLER: Yes, please.

CLINIC: Okay, it isn’t Planned Parenthood, however. It’s 736-3262.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know — like I’m going to be 14 in March. My friend — I’m just worried because like my friend said that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: You would have to ask them because they’re the ones that take care of it.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Yeah, the pregnancy test, the urine is $10 and the blood is $25.

CALLER: Okay. Well, would you have to tell anybody that I was getting a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: No. Uh-uh.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Um-um.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my boyfriend said that, like we were talking about all this, and he said that he would pay for everything. Would it be all right if he was there with me?

CLINIC: Can you hold on for one second?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay, ma’am? Pay for what, ma’am?

CALLER: The pregnancy test and everything.

CLINIC: Oh, that’s fine.

CALLER: Really? Well, would he — would you guys have to talk to him or ask him any questions? He just — we just don’t want anyone to know about us, so.

CLINIC: Um-um.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: You just get the $10 and you can come in for the pregnancy test.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control too?

CLINIC: You could. However, you would need an appointment for that.

CALLER: Oh, okay. But would you have to tell my parents I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No. Um-um. It’s confidential.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, do you know — like how much does it cost for a birth control actually?

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: It would just be a donation because there wouldn’t be any charges for you.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, if I was on birth control, would my boyfriend be able to pick up the pills? Because I can’t drive. He’d be the only way that I could get them.

CLINIC: Yeah, as long as you were to put him down.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Okay.

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Thanks.

(phone clicks)

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#460 – Planned Parenthood in El Paso, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1130 MONTANA AVE.
EL PASO, TX 79902-5510
915-543-3062

TAPE – 460

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC (male): Good afternoon. Planned Parenthood. Desert Rainbow Center. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: I’m sorry, no we don’t. All I know is on the clinics we do pregnancy testing. Other than that, nothing to do with abortions.

CALLER: Oh. Well, okay. Do you know of any place that does do them?

CLINIC: I sure don’t, not right offhand.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I just was wanting to ask some questions about it really. Do you — could I ask you real quick?

CLINIC: Okay. Can you hold on? I’ll get you someone that might be able to help you. Hold on a second.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC (female): This is Gail.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering about — I had a few questions about getting an abortion, and I was wanting to talk to someone.

CLINIC: Okay. All I can do is give you a phone number. We don’t do that here.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Let me put you on hold. Let me find the number for you, okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay, ma’am?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: It’s 544-2769.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know like — well, I’m just worried because like my friend — like I’m going to be 14 in March. And she told me that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just tell them?

CLINIC: You know what? I hate to tell you this, but, yeah, they have to tell your parents, and your boyfriend can get into a lot of trouble.

CALLER: For what? What do you mean?

CLINIC: You know, you’re 14 and he’s 22?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Yeah. Yeah. Do your parents, do they know you’re having sex?

CALLER: Well, no, that’s why they can’t tell them. They can’t find out at all. I mean, if they found out I don’t know what would happen.

CLINIC: Well, that’s the only thing. In the state of Texas you have to have your parents permission to get an abortion.

CALLER: Well, is there any way not to tell them?

CLINIC: You’re going to have to go up to a judge.

CALLER: Yeah?

CLINIC: And you’re going to probably have to persuade him.

CALLER: Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: I don’t know because we don’t do abortions. I can’t tell you. But if you want, call that number. They should be able to help you.

CALLER: Well, I was really just wanting to get like a pregnancy test. Could I do that there?

CLINIC: Okay, no. All we do here is HIV and AIDS testing and presentations. But they can help you at that same place that I give you the number at. They can help you with that also. They also do the pap smears and they do birth control also.

CALLER: Well, the guy that I talked to before said that you guys do pregnancy tests.

CLINIC: Not here. Not where we’re at. He’s a volunteer. All we do is HIV and AIDS testing here. He’s probably referring to the clinic. That’s probably what he was talking about. Yeah, clinics do the pregnancy test, but we don’t do them here in this building.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Yeah, we do HIV testing, presentations, things like that.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Okay? Once you get this taken care of, it’s really important, you might want to consider birth control.

CALLER: Well, would you guys be able to do that there?

CLINIC: No. You have to go to our clinics. All we do is HIV, presentations and things like that.

CALLER: Well, do you know if anybody would have to know if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: I’m sorry? Oh, no, no. That part, no.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: No. That part you wouldn’t have to tell your parents, but for the abortion you do have to go to your parents. Call them, calla the number I gave you. See what they tell you because they may be able to give you some more information. But like I said, since we don’t do it we don’t have that information. I don’t know what the procedure is. But, yeah, according to the law you would have to tell your parents if you do want to get an abortion.

CALLER: Okay. Well, you’ve been a lot of help thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: What’s your name?

CLINIC: My name is Gail.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#439 – Planned Parenthood in Waco, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1927 COLUMBUS AVE.
WACO, TX 76701-1032
254-759-5772

TAPE – 439

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Pam. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Yes, ma’am.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: Depends on how far along you are. When was the first day of your last period?

CALLER: December 21st.

CLINIC: Okay. It would be $390.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, do you know — like, well, I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about anything?

CLINIC: No, ma’am. One of your parents has to come with you.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Yes, ma’am.

CALLER: Is there any way not to have to tell them?

CLINIC: Not with you’re 14 and he’s 22?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Did you know that that’s statutory rape in the state of Texas?

CALLER: What do you mean? He’s not raping me. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Okay. Because of you age and because of his age we would have to report that.

CALLER: To who?

CLINIC: To the police.

CALLER: Well, what could happen?

CLINIC: Well, he could be arrested.

CALLER: He could be arrested?

CLINIC: Yes, ma’am.

CALLER: Well, he can’t be arrested. I mean, he’s — we’re going to get married, and he’s going to take care of me for the rest of our lives.

CLINIC: Hmm.

CALLER: I mean –

CLINIC: That’s just the law, ma’am.

CALLER: Uh-huh. Well, what can I do then?

CLINIC: I don’t know what you could do. If you come into this clinic, I’m letting you know ahead of time that we have to report that to the police.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: And that he stands the possibility of being arrested. So I did, I do want to let you know that.

CALLER: Well, what —

CLINIC: Plus, we have to send — one of your parents has to bring you for the procedure. Or you could go before a judge and get what’s called a judicial bypass with — but with your situation I don’t know if that would be good for you to do because of his age.

CALLER: Well, would it be better just not to tell anybody about him?

CLINIC: Well, they’re going to ask you some questions.

CALLER: Yeah? So you don’t think that I could get a judicial bypass?

CLINIC: If you explain that to the judge, it’s possible. I really couldn’t tell you. I really wouldn’t know. Hold on a minute.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: (pause) Do you have a good reason for not telling your mother?

CALLER: Well, I can’t tell them at all. I mean, I don’t know what would happen. They’d be furious.

CLINIC: Well, yeah. But I mean, that wouldn’t be a good enough reason for you to tell the judge. You have to be able to convince a judge why are you getting this procedure. You would have to be able to convince him.

CALLER: Well, what should I say?

CLINIC: Girl, I don’t know. In your situation, I don’t know.

CALLER: Well, how could I find out that I was pregnant for sure?

CLINIC: You could take a urine pregnancy test.

CALLER: Oh. Do I come in there for that?

CLINIC: Have you taken the test?

CALLER: No. I’m just really worried because I haven’t had my period for awhile.

CLINIC: Okay. You come here and you take this test, and your test turns out to be positive? We have to report that.

CALLER: But what if it was negative?

CLINIC: If it’s negative, you don’t have anything to worry about. But if your test is positive, then we have to report that.

CALLER: Well, could I get on birth control if it was negative?

CLINIC: Yeah. You can get on birth control.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Um-um.

CALLER: And my boyfriend wouldn’t get in trouble?

CLINIC: Have you missed a period?

CALLER: Yeah. Haven’t had it since December 21st.

CLINIC: Ooh. So, and you’ve been having unprotected sex?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, (sighs) it’s possible that you could be pregnant, and if you are pregnant and you come in here, we’d have to report it.

CALLER: Oh. But if I wasn’t, you wouldn’t have to say anything?

CLINIC: Right.

CALLER: Well, so, could I get birth control if I wasn’t pregnant then?

CLINIC: Yes, ma’am, you could get birth control. It’s $28 one-time charge and then the pills are $15 a pack. For your very first would be $43. And then it would be $15 a pack after that. But if you have a missed period, then you’re not going to be able to get birth control from us until you have a period. You’d have to be on your period to start the birth control pills.

CALLER: Well, would anybody have to know about my boyfriend if I was in birth control?

CLINIC: No, ma’am.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: No, long as your test comes out negative.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So you want to come in?

CALLER: Well, I got to talk to my boyfriend to see. But –

CLINIC: Yeah — you, yeah, that’s something you need to discuss with him, because if you come in here and your test is positive, we have to report that.

CALLER: Oh. All right.

CLINIC: Okay? And we definitely could not give you an abortion without one of your parents coming with you unless you got a judicial bypass, and I don’t even know how you would go before a judge with your situation. You know what I’m saying?

CALLER: Yeah. All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay. So –

CLINIC: Something to think about.

CALLER: So I’ll just call you back. Okay, thanks.

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

(phone clicks)

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