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#789 – Routh Street Women’s Clinic in Dallas, TX

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ROUTH STREET WOMEN’S CLINIC
4321 N. CENTRAL EXPWY
DALLAS, TX 75205
214-748-8611

TAPE – 789

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: (Unclear) Women’s Clinic. This is Amelia. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, ma’am, we do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: How far are you into your pregnancy?

CALLER: I’m not really sure. How do you know?

CLINIC: Well, we usually calculate it from the first day of your last normal period.

CALLER: That was January 3rd.

CLINIC: Okay. So you’re still under 11 weeks. The fee is going to be $300 for the abortion service plus $25 for the medication that you’ll have to start taking, which makes it a total of 325.

CALLER: Okay. The thing is, I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No, ma’am. You have to have a parent’s consent.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Is there any way not to have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: No, ma’am.

CALLER: Well, I can’t tell my parents at all. What can I do?

CLINIC: Well, I’m sorry. But we do have to parent’s consent.

CALLER: There’s no way not to tell my parents then?

CLINIC: That is correct.

CALLER: Well, I haven’t had a pregnancy test. Could I come in there to get one?

CLINIC: That’s no problem. You can come in between 8 and 4:30.

CALLER: But would my parents have to know about that?

CLINIC: No, ma’am.

CALLER: My boyfriend would have to drive me there. Would that be all right if he was there with me for that?

CLINIC: It would be fine.

CALLER: If it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, but not today. You have to schedule that appointment.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? So first come in and get a test done first.

CALLER: But would anybody have to know if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay. All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: How much does birth control cost?

CLINIC: For the annual exam, it cost $70.

CALLER: How soon could I get that if I wasn’t pregnant?

CLINIC: Next Saturday.

CALLER: All right. If I had any other questions, could I call you?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: What was your name again?

CLINIC: Amelia.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my boyfriend and me were talking about all this, and we don’t want anybody to know. But if he was paying for everything, would anyone have to know about him?

CLINIC: Well, we will have to have a parent’s consent.

CALLER: For the pregnancy test and the birth control?

CLINIC: We don’t charge for a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Well, for the birth control too?

CLINIC: No. For that, that’s fine.

CALLER: So nobody would have to know about him?

CLINIC: That is correct.

CALLER: All right. Okay.

CLINIC: Bye.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#790 – Aaron’s Women’s Health Center in Dallas, TX

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AARON’S WOMEN’S HEALTH CENTER
6546 L.B.J. FWY # 200
DALLAS, TX 75240
972-385-1333

TAPE – 790

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: (Unclear) Women’s Health Center. This is Sandra. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: How man weeks pregnant are you?

CALLER: I’m not sure. How do you know?

CLINIC: When was your last period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: Was that the first day of your period or the last day?

CALLER: The first day.

CLINIC: So right now you’re looking at being 10 weeks pregnant. That’s $315 up until the 11th week.

CALLER: The thing is, I’m going to be 14 right around this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it?

CLINIC: Is your boyfriend doing the abortion?

CALLER: What?

CLINIC: Is your boyfriend doing the abortion?

CALLER: I don’t know. What do you mean?

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 on the 19th.

CLINIC: And your boyfriend is how old?

CALLER: Twenty-two.

CLINIC: Oh boy. No, you would need your parents. And, technically, that’s considered statutory rape.

CALLER: What?

CLINIC: That’s considered statutory rape.

CALLER: He’s not raping me. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Well then, I would suggest you talk to your parents about having the termination if you’re going to get married.

CALLER: I mean, we’re not going to get married like soon. He has to finish going to school.

CLINIC: Okay. Sweetheart, we would not be able to help you. The only way that we would be able to help you is if you went to a judge and got a judicial bypass. And you’re going to have to justify to the judge why you want to do the termination, and see if he thinks that you’re fully in control of all your capacities.

CALLER: How much does that cost?

CLINIC: That’s free.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Do I need like a lawyer or anything?

CLINIC: Do you need like a what?

CALLER: A lawyer.

CLINIC: Yes. They will provide a lawyer for you free.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, does the judge ever say no?

CLINIC: If he sees that you can’t provide adequate proof, he does.

CALLER: Well, if he says yes, then I could come in there, and you wouldn’t have to have my parents there?

CLINIC: Correct.

CALLER: Okay. The thing is, my boyfriend and I were talking about all this, and we don’t want to anyone to know. But he said he’s going to pay for everything with cash. So would he have to sign anything or fill out any forms if he was —

CLINIC: Your boyfriend is not having the termination; you are.

CALLER: But he said he was going to pay for everything.

CLINIC: Yeah. But the only person that we would need to sign papers or to have anything would be you.

CALLER: Okay. So nobody would find out about him?

CLINIC: We don’t even want to know about him, because technically we would have to report him to the cops.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Just like I said, that’s statutory rape. And statutory rape means that in the legal books, in the penal code, it says that if you are having sex with a person who is two years younger than you, then that’s considered rape.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: And he should know better too. He’s 22 years old. You’re only 14.

CALLER: But we’re in love. But if the judge says it’s all right, you wouldn’t have to say anything to anybody?

CLINIC: I would not be able to tell you what the judge would say. You would have to —

CALLER: But if he does say it’s okay.

CLINIC: I don’t know, sweetheart. You would have to talk to the judge. I don’t know what their criteria.

CALLER: Okay. But after I talk to the judge, and he said it was all right, I could come in there, and you guys wouldn’t have to say anything about anything?

CLINIC: Correct.

CALLER: Okay. I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Would I be able to come in there and get that just to make sure I am pregnant?

CLINIC: I would do that first. Bring a sample of your urine in a sealed container, in a jar with a lid. Drop it off and fill out some forms. And then you can find out if you’re pregnant or not.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how soon would I be able to find out?

CLINIC: Monday through Friday we take the pregnancy tests from 9 to 5.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how long does it take to find out?

CLINIC: And hour-and-a-half.

CALLER: Okay. If it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: No, ma’am. We would not be able to help you. The only people that we provide services for are people who have done pregnancy terminations with us. After that we do gynecological services.

CALLER: Well, do you know where I could go to get birth control?

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood would be your best bet.

CALLER: Oh, okay. But would they have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I don’t think so.

CALLER: If I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Sandra.

CALLER: Okay. How would I get a hold of the judge?

CLINIC: I can give you the number to speak to the lady that runs the judicial bypass. And her name is Diane. And the number is 1-866-999-5263.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Just call her and see what she let’s you know.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thank you.

CLINIC: Um-hmm. Bye bye.

***END***

#477 – Planned Parenthood in El Paso, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
10761 PEBBLE HILLS BLVD. # F
EL PASO, TX 79935-2037
915-595-1564

TAPE – 477

(dialing sound) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood East. This is Natalie. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was talking to Lupe, but the phone got disconnected. So –

CLINIC: Oh, okay. I’m sorry. And your name, ma’am?

CALLER: It’s — well, she just put me on hold.

CLINIC: Okay. Can I have your name?

CALLER: It’s Christine.

CLINIC: Just a moment. (long pause)

Ma’am?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: I know you’re holding for Lupe. She’s on another call right now. Is there anything I can help you with?

CALLER: Well, yeah. What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Natalie.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, I was just actually wanting to ask some questions, but like I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, sweetie, we don’t. But I can give you the number where we refer our patients.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: It’s for Women’s Reproductive Services, and let me get that number for you. Just a moment. Just a second.

CALLER: Well, do you know — like I’m just really worried because like I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: And my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Ummm — that’s a really touchy situation because of his age.

CALLER: Why?

CLINIC: Because that’s probably considered statutory rape.

CALLER: But he’s not raping me. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Right. I can just give you the number, ma’am. I really can’t give you any other information.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: It’s 544-2861.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? I really wouldn’t know how to advise you on that.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: All righty, hon?

CALLER: Well, do you know if I could come in there for like a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Uh, they do that there.

CALLER: Oh, well, it’s just my boyfriend told me to call you guys.

CLINIC: Well, if you’re considering termination of pregnancy I would go ahead and have everything done at one place so it’s not so much confusion.

CALLER: Well, I wasn’t really sure if I was pregnant actually. I’m just really scared because I haven’t had my period since like December 21st. And I’m worried.

CLINIC: I don’t blame you. You can come in.

CALLER: What time?

CLINIC: Well, do you have Medicaid?

CALLER: No. My boyfriend said he would pay for everything.

CLINIC: Okay. Can you hold for a moment, please?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Can you hold on for one second?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Thanks. (pause)

CALLER: (dialing sounds) (busy signal) (dialing sounds) (busy signal) (dialing sounds) (ringing)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood East. This is Natalie. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was just on the phone with you, but my friend’s mom came in and I had to hang up.

CLINIC: Right. I came back to the line. Can I give you a number you can go? There’s a confidential place you can go.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: For free pregnancy tests. Okay? It’s called the Sierra Teen Resource Center. Okay? And the number there is 755-8336. And it is free. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, would they have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: I don’t know what their policies are, dear. Okay? But –

CALLER: Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t’ pregnant, could I come and get birth control?

CLINIC: Yes, you could.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Do you have — you don’t have Medicaid, right?

CALLER: Right. Yeah. My boyfriend said he would pay for everything.

CLINIC: Okay. Why don’t you go ahead and find out –

CALLER: It’s just we don’t want to have to go through all this again.

CLINIC: Why don’t you go ahead and find out what’s going on? Okay? And then when you know call us back, and we can go ahead and talk to you and set up for an appointment.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if I was on birth control, would you guys have to tell anybody though?

CLINIC: There are laws that we have to follow regarding positive pregnancy tests or positive STDs in people under the age of 14. Okay? We have to abide by those laws.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: As far as telling your parents just if you come in? No, it is confidential. Okay? We do encourage you to talk to your parents. Your visit will be confidential. You know, we just have to follow the laws that we’re required to under the Texas statute. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, would it be all right if my boyfriend came in with me though?

CLINIC: You know, regarding that, it’s fine if you want to bring somebody in. But you’re telling me that he’s 22 and you’re 13?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. And you know, there are certain things that we have to do. We would need to talk to you in person. Okay? If you can bring somebody else with you it would be better. If you are dead set on bringing him, that’s fine. You do understand though that in Texas being that you’re 13 years old and he’s 22, that is considered statutory rape. You do understand that, right?

CALLER: Well, I don’t — I guess. I don’t know.

CLINIC: Okay. Why don’t you find out what’s going on first? Call the number that I gave you, and when you know what’s going on why don’t you give us a call and we can maybe talk about that a little bit further?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

(phone clicks)

*** THE END ***

#467 – Planned Parenthood in Harlingen, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
712 N. 77TH SUNSHINE STRIP
HARLINGEN, TX 78550
956-423-8584

TAPE – 467

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t. We can refer you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: I can give you the number where you can call.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: It’s called Reproductive Services, and the number there is 428-6242.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know if — well I’m just really worried because like I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents.

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Uh-uh.

CALLER: Well, is there any way that my parents don’t have to find out?

CLINIC: I don’t think there’s a way to go around it.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Uh-uh.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: No, because it’s just a new law that came out, and if you are a minor then, yeah, they would have to let your parents know. Or you can call them and see what they can do for you, how they can help you. They would know more about it.

CALLER: Well, it’s just I’m really worried about all this because like the main reason why is because I haven’t had my period since like December 21, and I’m just scared.

CLINIC: Have you had a pregnancy test done?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Then that would be the first thing for you to do.

CALLER: Could I come in there for that?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Okay. Well, would you have to tell my parents that I was there for that?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: No?

CLINIC: Uh-uh.

CALLER: It’s just — me and my boyfriend were talking and he said he was going to pay for it, so is it– like is it all right if he was there with me?

CLINIC: Yeah. Can you hold on just a minute?

CALLER: Sure.

CLINIC: Let me let you talk to the manager. She can give you a lot more information on this. Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Hold on. (pause)

CLINIC: This is (Malinda?). May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wanting to ask a couple questions about getting an abortion?

CLINIC: Yes, ma’am.

CALLER: Well, it’s just — well I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just — is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody about anything?

CLINIC: No. Not at all. As a matter of fact — what’s your name?

CALLER: It’s Christine.

CLINIC: Christine, as a matter of face, it’s against the law for a 22-year-old to have sex with a 14-year-old, so don’t even say that.

CALLER: What do you mean?

CLINIC: It’s against the law. A 22 cannot have sex with 14-year-old. That’s rape.

CALLER: But he’s not raping me. We’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Right.

CALLER: What can I do?

CLINIC: Well, you’re 14. You had a pregnancy done already?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Okay, so you don’t really know that you are pregnant, right?

CALLER: Well, I just haven’t had my period since like December 21st.

CLINIC: So more than likely you are.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Okay. Have you been late with your period before?

CALLER: No, not really.

CLINIC: Okay. So you’ve been having sex and not using any protection?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: Right. Okay. Well, what they’re going to do is, you can go in and talk to them, you know, and call them on the phone and talk to them, but normally the parent has to sign for this.

CALLER: Oh. But my parents can’t find out at all. I mean, if they knew that we were having sex, I don’t know what they would do.

CLINIC: Right. They also have — they can waive this. You can go in there and talk to them and they can waive this, but in good — you would have to go in front of the judge and ask him, and go that way, you know, go around your parents by going to the judge and maybe he can waive this.

CALLER: Well, how much does all that cost? Like do I need a lawyer for that?

CLINIC: No. Uh-uh. No, you don’t need a lawyer. The termination itself is about — how far along though are you? It depends on how far along.

CALLER: I don’t know.

CLINIC: Okay. When was the first day of your last period?

CALLER: December 21st.

CLINIC: December 21st.

CALLER: That’s why I was wanting to come in and get a pregnancy test.

CLINIC: If you are pregnant, that’s going to put you –

CALLER: Do you know if it would be all right if my boyfriend came in with me to get a pregnancy test? He said that he was going to pay for everything.

CLINIC: When you come in — well, there’s no charge for the pregnancy test. But what happens, when you come in and you tell the girls that you’re 14 and he’s 22, that we will report this. We are going to report this to Child Protective Services.

CALLER: Oh. So what can I do then?

CLINIC: You can come in by yourself and have the pregnancy test done and don’t even — you know, don’t even say. But if, if you come and tell me then I need, my policy is I need to report this.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: I can’t do anything over the phone, but I can do it when you are here.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Let’s see. But that’s the law. Now February the 22nd you will be 9 weeks pregnant.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Oh, you were nine weeks pregnant already. So to terminate this pregnancy on March the 15th would be the last day to terminate this pregnancy. So you need to move on here, girl. You need to get in here so we can do a pregnancy test. You can go to any clinic you want to go and do a pregnancy test. Then talk to them and they will — then you would need to go to — the best thing to do would go — there’s some papers, some forms that we have that you need to fill out and take them to the Reproductive Services, and they can work with you on this.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Or just go into the Reproductive Services and have the pregnancy test done there, let them handle the paperwork and get you going as soon as possible.

CALLER: Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, ma’am. Um-hum.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody about that?

CLINIC: No. Everything here is confidential. No. We would not tell anybody about that. This is very confidential.

CALLER: Well, it’s just the thing is, that I don’t drive. I’m not old enough, but could my boyfriend pick up the pills if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No. You would need to come in.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Well, he can — I guess he can pick them up if you sign for the, but there’s a special form that we have. So where you can sign and give us permission, giving him permission to pick up the pills.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: But most of the time, you know, you need to — he can bring you and we can give you the pills.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: But you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about him or anything?

CLINIC: No, not at all, not — not if — if you didn’t say anything then we don’t know, right?

CALLER: Right. Okay.

CLINIC: And I just gave you a little heads up. (laughs)

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: But yeah, call Reproductive Services and tell them that you’re doing this and like I say, you can either come here or go there and do a pregnancy test and fill out the forms and they will guide you how to do this.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well –

CLINIC: If you have any questions then give us a call.

CALLER: Okay. What was your name?

CLINIC: Minnie.

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

*** THE END ***

#478 – Planned Parenthood in Lubbock, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
3821 22ND ST.
LUBBOCK, TX 79410
806-795-7123

TAPE – 478

(dialing sound) (ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Teresa. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: No. Aron’s (sp) Women’s Clinic.

CALLER: Do you have the number for that?

CLINIC: I don’t know. Hold on one moment. (pause)

Okay. It’s in the phone book. I’m not sure of the number.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know if — I’m just really worried because like — well my friend told me — like I’m going to be 14 in March. And she said that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend is 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. If you’re under 13, I mean under 14, it needs to be reported.

CALLER: Reported to who?

CLINIC: To the state.

CALLER: Well, what would happen?

CLINIC: He’ll get investigated for child abuse.

CALLER: Well, but he’s not abusing me. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: I understand that, but that’s just the law.

CALLER: Well, what should I do? I mean, I don’t want him to get in trouble.

CLINIC: Umm. That’s — I don’t know. Maybe you could just not tell them who. I don’t know. I don’t know what you could do. I mean, that’s the law.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You know, nothing I could tell you to do really.

CALLER: Well, it’s just I’m really worried about all this because like I haven’t had my period since like December 21st, and I’m scared. So I don’t know what to do.

CLINIC: Yeah. Well, you need to make an appointment there, and then let — they could tell you from there what you need to do because I’m not real familiar with that situation since we don’t do that here.

CALLER: Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test? It’s just, my friend told me to go to you guys because it was better.

CLINIC: Yeah. You could come here. They’re 8 if they’re negative and 30 if they’re positive because then they do an exam to see how far along you are.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Do you know like if you would have to tell my parents if I was there for that though?

CLINIC: Hold on. Yeah, we have to tell your parents.

CALLER: Oh. Well, would it be better — well, is there any way not to have to tell my parents at all?

CLINIC: I don’t know. Here, we would — I don’t know what other agencies do, but here we would have to. You might want to try the Storks Nest. They do free pregnancy testing there.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: What was that again?

CLINIC: The Storks Nest.

CALLER: Where is that?

CLINIC: That’s at Highland.

CALLER: Oh, okay. But if I came in for a pregnancy test you would have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Well, what if I wasn’t pregnant? Could I get birth control and you wouldn’t have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: You’d have to make an appointment here and get a pap smear done to become a patient here.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody if I was getting birth control there?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Okay. So — well I’m just really worried. I don’t know what to do.

CLINIC: I understand. Well go over there first and see if you are pregnant, and if you’re not then call back and make an appointment here. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

(phone clicks)

*** THE END ***

#468 – Planned Parenthood in Pharr, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
129 E. CAFFERY ST.
PHARR, TX 78577-4846
956-787-9452

TAPE – 468

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood. (Desiree?). Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, ma’am, we don’t.

CALLER: Do you know of anybody that does?

CLINIC: We have a booklet that has a list of, little booklet of places that you can call to, but you need to come in and get it in here.

CALLER: Okay. Well do you know like — I’m just really worried about all this because like I haven’t had my period since like December 21st, and I don’t know what to do because like — well my friend told me — like I’m going to be 14 in March, and she said that they would have to tell my parents that I was getting an abortion. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody about anything?

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: So you’re 13. Far as you doing anything right now, the abortion, you need to let your parents know.

CALLER: But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it?

CLINIC: No, because the patient would be you.

CALLER: So they would have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Well, is there any way not to tell my parents, because if they found out I don’t know what they would do.

CLINIC: Um-um.

CALLER: I mean, they would, they would be furious.

CLINIC: You would need to probably call to other places that does that. And you can ask them, see maybe if they go by confidentiality or what.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Even if you do come in for a pregnancy test, do we need to let your parents know. It would be best if you just call there where they do that. Come and get a booklet where different places you can call to and probably see what they do.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: And when is your birthday?

CALLER: March 19, 1988.

CLINIC: Yeah. Call there. See what — come and get by and get a booklet and you can call there, see what they tell you. But as far as coming here, they will let your parents know.

CALLER: Oh. Well, if I wasn’t pregnant could I come in there and get birth control and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: It would be better after your birthday.

CALLER: Oh, so like after I’m 14 I could get birth control?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Because 13 we do. 14 we don’t.

CALLER: Oh, okay. All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, if like after I’m 14 and I came in for a birth control, would my boyfriend be able to pick it up? Because I still wouldn’t be able to drive to come get them.

CLINIC: He can come with you, but you need to be here.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All right. Okay.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Um. Bye.

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#480 – Planned Parenthood in Corpus Christi, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
3536 HOLLY RD.
CORPUS CHRISTI, TX 78415-3214
361-855-9107

TAPE – 480

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Pam. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know of any place that does?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Dr. Akino (sp) does in town here. It’s 888-7972.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know — I’m just really worried because like — well, I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend said that they would have to tell my parents. But like my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is, and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I don’t think he can. It has to be a relative.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: I believe it has to be your parent actually.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Call them and find out.

CALLER: Okay. I’m just really worried because like I haven’t had my period since like December 21st, and I’m scared.

CLINIC: Have you taken a pregnancy test yet?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Well, I would suggest you take one. You know, buy one at the store and take it first before you call Dr. Akino.

CALLER: Oh. Are those usually right though?

CLINIC: Oh, yeah. They’re very accurate. Um-hum.

CALLER: Oh. Well, my friend just told me to come in there because you guys were better to go to, and I would feel better if someone else was doing it.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, you can come in here, and they’re $12.

CALLER: Okay. But would you have to tell anybody that I was there for that though?

CLINIC: No. It’s completely confidential.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know — like I would just feel better if my boyfriend was there. Would it be all right if he was there with me?

CLINIC: Sure. Uh-huh.

CALLER: But would you guys have to ask anything about him? Like he would pay for everything he said, but does he have to sign anything? It’s just, we were talking about all of this, and we don’t want anyone to know about us. So.

CLINIC: Um-hum. Why don’t you both come in and then we can discuss it when you get here? Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant –

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: — would you guys be able to do birth control?

CLINIC: Well, we can get you an appointment for that one too. Uh-huh.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody that I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No. Everything is completely confidential.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All righty.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

CALLER: Thanks.

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#469 – Planned Parenthood in Raymondville, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
112 S. 1ST ST.
RAYMONDVILLE, TX 78580-2310
956-689-5585

TAPE – 469

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, ma’am, we don’t. I can give you a number.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: 428-6242.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know if, um, like I’m just really worried because like, well, I’ll be 14 in March. And my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents.

CLINIC: Right.

CALLER: But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of that?

CLINIC: I don’t think so. You can call and ask them.

CALLER: Oh. Okay. Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Okay. You can come on Wednesday. We’re closed already.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: I’m just really worried because like I haven’t had my period since like December 21st, so I don’t know what to do, and I’m scared.

CLINIC: Right. Well, do you want to try calling them? I think they do — what is your name, ma’am?

CALLER: It’s Christine.

CLINIC: Christine?

CALLER: Smith.

CLINIC: Smith?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Christine Smith. Can you come in — do you want to come in on Wednesday morning?

CALLER: Well, what time?

CLINIC: At 8:00.

CALLER: Yeah, I guess. I don’t know. I would have to call my boyfriend to see, but I think so.

CLINIC: Okay. You can come in then if you want to. If it’s positive, you wanted to have an abortion?

CALLER: Um, yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, maybe you can call that office and see if they can see you tomorrow and make other arrangements if you want it done right away.

CALLER: Okay. Well, it’s just –

CLINIC: If not, we can see you here Wednesday morning.

CALLER: Okay. Well, me and my boyfriend were just talking about this, and we don’t want anyone to know about us but –

CLINIC: Everything is confidential here, ma’am.

CALLER: All right. So you guys wouldn’t have to ask anything about him or anything?

CLINIC: Anything about him?

CALLER: Right. Like we just don’t want anyone to know about us, and — but he was going to pay for everything. So does he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: I don’t think that he would. I don’t know if the age problem would be a problem, ma’am.

CALLER: What do you mean?

CLINIC: He’s more than three years older than you.

CALLER: Yeah? Well, is that bad?

CLINIC: Well, I think by law it’s like statutory rape.

CALLER: But he’s not raping me.

CLINIC: Right.

CALLER: I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Statutory rape does not mean that you were forced. It just means that you’re sex with a minor.

CALLER: Well, what could happen?

CLINIC: Without parental consent. I don’t know the law very well, so I don’t know what could happen there. But I know that these people would be able to give you more information on that.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, so what should I do then? Just — I mean, I don’t know what to do. I’m scared.

CLINIC: Right. Do you want to have a baby?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: (sighs) Well, I know you would need parental consent to get an abortion. Your boyfriend would not be good enough. You need –

CALLER: Oh, but I can’t tell my parents at all.

CLINIC: The legally I don’t think they’ll do an abortion, ma’am. Like I’m telling you, they would be able to give you more information. They are the ones that perform it.

CALLER: Oh. But if the pregnancy test came out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, ma’am. We can help you. You don’t need parental consent for that.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Well –

CLINIC: But if you’re not pregnant, ma’am, you need to make sure you go get on some condoms or something to be using.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Just because you’re not pregnant right now doesn’t mean you can’t get pregnant.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, would it be all right — like I can’t drive yet. But my, would it be all right if my boyfriend picked up like the birth control though?

CLINIC: The birth control pills? No. You have to come in for an exam.

CALLER: Oh. Well, after that? Could he pick up like the pills or whatever?

CLINIC: I’m sure when you come in we can make some kind of arrangements.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay, ma’am.

CALLER: You’ve been so helpful. Thanks. What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Eliza. If you want to, ma’am, you can come here Wednesday morning.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: And we can go ahead and take care of the pregnancy test, or like I said you can call that number. I know an abortion’s going to cost you a pretty penny, and –

CALLER: Okay. How much?

CLINIC: I’m thinking about $350 and up.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You can call that number. They know more about all the legal procedures.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And I think there might be a way for you to go around telling your parents but you would have to go through a judge.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: So — yes.

CALLER: Do I need a lawyer for that or anything?

CLINIC: I don’t think you do.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Like I said, they would be able to give you more information on that.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: But feel free to come on by or send him to get some condoms for you on Wednesday if you don’t come in for a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: So could he just come in and get –

CLINIC: Yeah, he can come in. It’s going to cost him $2 a dozen.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. You’re welcome, ma’am.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

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#481 – Planned Parenthood in Corpus Christi, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
4410 DILLION LN. # 1
CORPUS CHRISTI, TX 78415-5333
361-857-0101

TAPE – 481

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Veronica.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know of anybody that does?

CLINIC: The only doctor who does it here, Dr. Akino.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you have the number for him?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. 888-7972.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, do you know — like I’m just really worried because like I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is, and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody anything?

CLINIC: You could try asking. If not, you’ll have to get a, like a thing called like a bypass where you go into I believe the courthouse and you go in front of a judge and, you know, let them know why you need this done, why you don’t want to have a baby, why you feel abortion is the correct thing to do for you at this time, and then if they approve it you don’t need your parents to do that. If they approve for you to have one, they’ll write you a bypass and you take it to the doctor and they’ll do it for you.

CALLER: Do they ever not approve it?

CLINIC: It just depends. If they feel like you don’t know enough about abortion, if you don’t — if you feel like it’s just something to do and you might regret it later. You really have to stand your ground and know that that’s what you want and you know that’s what you want and what it’s about. You know?

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: The bypass?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: I don’t think there’s a cost.

CALLER: Really? Okay. But would they have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I don’t — no. That’s what it’s for. That way your parent — you can go on your own without your parents.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, could I — I’m just really worried about all this because like I haven’t had my period since like December 21, and I’m scared. I mean, usually it’s — my periods are normal.

CLINIC: Right. Well, I would think you need to do this as soon as possible because the further along you are the more expensive it’s going to be to have it terminated.

CALLER: Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test to see if I really was pregnant?

CLINIC: Um-hum. 8:30 to 11:00, 1:30 to 4:00.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know, would you guys have to tell my parents that I was there for that though?

CLINIC: No. Uh-uh.

CALLER: Okay. But me and my — like my boyfriend would be the only way I could get there. Would you have to say anything about him though?

CLINIC: No. Uh-uh. It’s all confidential here.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: It’s just, we were talking about it. We decided we didn’t’ want anyone to know about us. So.

CLINIC: Right.

CALLER: But he was going to pay for everything. Would he have to sign anything though?

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: When you come, you fill out your own paperwork. We put you in the program that you don’t have, you won’t have to pay. So there’s no charge. And everything’s confidential. We don’t call, we don’t do anything to your parents.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Yeah. Same thing. No cost. We schedule you an appointment. And we don’t contact anybody that you’re here, that, you know, we need permission to see you, nothing like that.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, if I was on birth control would my boyfriend be able to pick up the pills? Because I can’t drive yet.

CLINIC: Yeah. What we would do, the day you’re here, get your exam, we give you three months worth. You will have to come in at the end of the three months because we check your weight and blood pressure to see how you’re doing on these pills. And if they’re fine, then you can take the rest of the year with you.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: Um-hum. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#470 – Planned Parenthood in San Benito, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
195 E. HEYWOOD ST.
SAN BENITO, TX 78586-4632
956-399-2662

TAPE – 470

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, ma’am, we don’t.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know of any place that does?

CLINIC: You can look it up in the yellow pages under “abortions.”

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, do you know — like I’m just really worried because like my friend told me that — like I’m going to be 14 in March, and she said that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Let me — let me tell you something, ma’am.

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: By you being 14 and your boyfriend is 22, it’s going to be reported also to the law.

CALLER: Why?

CLINIC: Because it’s considered statutory rape.

CALLER: But he’s not raping me. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: I understand that.

CALLER: What could happen?

CLINIC: Let me — don’t get angry, ma’am. I’m just telling you what’s going to happen, okay?

CALLER: Um-hum.

CLINIC: That means he’s three years older than you are.

CALLER: Um-hum.

CLINIC: Okay? I wouldn’t even bring this up if I were you.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay? Because if you do, yes, this is considered statutory rape, and he will be prosecuted for a rapist, okay? Regardless of your consenting it. Another thing is, yes you do need a parental consent for this abortion or you would have to go in front of a judge and get the permission to get it. If you don’t want your parents to find out, you need to get a judge consent.

CALLER: Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: It’s just going to be depending on how far along you are.

CALLER: Oh. Well, how do you know?

CLINIC: From your last — are you sure you’re pregnant now?

CALLER: Not really. I’m just scared because like my last period was like December 21st.

CLINIC: Okay, and you haven’t had a pregnancy test done?

CALLER: No. Could I come in there for that?

CLINIC: You can.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I don’t want to know who you are, okay? Put it that way.

CALLER: It’s just, the thing is, I’m not old enough to drive, and my boyfriend would be the only one that could take me. But would he be reported if he took me?

CLINIC: If he sat outside, no.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But like I said, if anybody finds out that he’s three years older than you are, this is considered rape.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Especially with the new laws that there is. Thank God that you’re not 13, because if you were 13 things would be worse.

CALLER: But I’ll be 14 in March. I am 13 right now.

CLINIC: Oooh. Okay. Let me tell you one more thing before you come in. If I do have a positive result, I do have to report you.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: I do have to report you — by law. If I do have a positive pregnancy test on you, I will have to report you.

CALLER: Well, is there any way to get a pregnancy test without coming in?

CLINIC: Hold on. Unless you — have you bought one over the counter at like Walmart, HEB?

CALLER: No. Are those usually right though?

CLINIC: If you do them correctly, they should be.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if that came out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I come over there to get birth control?

CLINIC: We can get you started on something, yes, ma’am.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody though?

CLINIC: Okay. If any of your results — okay. No. But if any of your results did come back positive, yes we would have to.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You don’t have to give us the information that your boyfriend is 13 — I mean 22. But then if I have any positive results like say chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, any of the sexually transmitted infection results do come back positive, yes, definitely we will have to report it anyway.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: So I can’t get birth control until I’m tested though?

CLINIC: Well, we’ll give you some, but we will test you at the time.

CALLER: Oh. But if any of the tests come back where I’m positive then –

CLINIC: Yes. Then we would have to by law.

CALLER: Well, do you know — like the thing is I can’t drive. So would my boyfriend be able to pick up like the birth control pills?

CLINIC: He would have to — hold on, ma’am. (pause) Ma’am?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Okay. Like I said, we will be glad to help you out as much as we can, but if I do have any positive results I will definitely have to report you by law.

CALLER: Oh. Well, all right. Well, thanks for saying, answering all my questions. I just don’t have anybody to talk to. So.

CLINIC: The thing is that if you’re nervous also, that will also make your period be held up. Are you irregular in your periods, or –

CALLER: Usually.

CLINIC: Usually? Okay. Are you having any nausea, breast tenderness?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Feeling tired?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: No? Like I said, we can do a pregnancy test on you, and if it’s negative yes we can see you this afternoon, and we can do a complete physical exam on you, and we can check you for everything and get you started on a method of birth control. But if by your boyfriend being 22, it’s not, not correct. Not correct, because for the fact that you’re still very, very young and actually he knows more than what you do, and he is considered an adult.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I’m going to — I just really need to think about all this. I’ll, I’m going to run out and get a pregnancy test. But could I call and talk to you if I had any other questions?

CLINIC: Sure. You may.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Marie.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Good luck.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Um-hum.

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