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#790 – Aaron’s Women’s Health Center in Dallas, TX

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AARON’S WOMEN’S HEALTH CENTER
6546 L.B.J. FWY # 200
DALLAS, TX 75240
972-385-1333

TAPE – 790

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: (Unclear) Women’s Health Center. This is Sandra. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: How man weeks pregnant are you?

CALLER: I’m not sure. How do you know?

CLINIC: When was your last period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: Was that the first day of your period or the last day?

CALLER: The first day.

CLINIC: So right now you’re looking at being 10 weeks pregnant. That’s $315 up until the 11th week.

CALLER: The thing is, I’m going to be 14 right around this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it?

CLINIC: Is your boyfriend doing the abortion?

CALLER: What?

CLINIC: Is your boyfriend doing the abortion?

CALLER: I don’t know. What do you mean?

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 on the 19th.

CLINIC: And your boyfriend is how old?

CALLER: Twenty-two.

CLINIC: Oh boy. No, you would need your parents. And, technically, that’s considered statutory rape.

CALLER: What?

CLINIC: That’s considered statutory rape.

CALLER: He’s not raping me. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Well then, I would suggest you talk to your parents about having the termination if you’re going to get married.

CALLER: I mean, we’re not going to get married like soon. He has to finish going to school.

CLINIC: Okay. Sweetheart, we would not be able to help you. The only way that we would be able to help you is if you went to a judge and got a judicial bypass. And you’re going to have to justify to the judge why you want to do the termination, and see if he thinks that you’re fully in control of all your capacities.

CALLER: How much does that cost?

CLINIC: That’s free.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Do I need like a lawyer or anything?

CLINIC: Do you need like a what?

CALLER: A lawyer.

CLINIC: Yes. They will provide a lawyer for you free.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, does the judge ever say no?

CLINIC: If he sees that you can’t provide adequate proof, he does.

CALLER: Well, if he says yes, then I could come in there, and you wouldn’t have to have my parents there?

CLINIC: Correct.

CALLER: Okay. The thing is, my boyfriend and I were talking about all this, and we don’t want to anyone to know. But he said he’s going to pay for everything with cash. So would he have to sign anything or fill out any forms if he was —

CLINIC: Your boyfriend is not having the termination; you are.

CALLER: But he said he was going to pay for everything.

CLINIC: Yeah. But the only person that we would need to sign papers or to have anything would be you.

CALLER: Okay. So nobody would find out about him?

CLINIC: We don’t even want to know about him, because technically we would have to report him to the cops.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Just like I said, that’s statutory rape. And statutory rape means that in the legal books, in the penal code, it says that if you are having sex with a person who is two years younger than you, then that’s considered rape.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: And he should know better too. He’s 22 years old. You’re only 14.

CALLER: But we’re in love. But if the judge says it’s all right, you wouldn’t have to say anything to anybody?

CLINIC: I would not be able to tell you what the judge would say. You would have to —

CALLER: But if he does say it’s okay.

CLINIC: I don’t know, sweetheart. You would have to talk to the judge. I don’t know what their criteria.

CALLER: Okay. But after I talk to the judge, and he said it was all right, I could come in there, and you guys wouldn’t have to say anything about anything?

CLINIC: Correct.

CALLER: Okay. I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Would I be able to come in there and get that just to make sure I am pregnant?

CLINIC: I would do that first. Bring a sample of your urine in a sealed container, in a jar with a lid. Drop it off and fill out some forms. And then you can find out if you’re pregnant or not.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how soon would I be able to find out?

CLINIC: Monday through Friday we take the pregnancy tests from 9 to 5.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how long does it take to find out?

CLINIC: And hour-and-a-half.

CALLER: Okay. If it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: No, ma’am. We would not be able to help you. The only people that we provide services for are people who have done pregnancy terminations with us. After that we do gynecological services.

CALLER: Well, do you know where I could go to get birth control?

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood would be your best bet.

CALLER: Oh, okay. But would they have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I don’t think so.

CALLER: If I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Sandra.

CALLER: Okay. How would I get a hold of the judge?

CLINIC: I can give you the number to speak to the lady that runs the judicial bypass. And her name is Diane. And the number is 1-866-999-5263.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Just call her and see what she let’s you know.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thank you.

CLINIC: Um-hmm. Bye bye.

***END***

#787 – West Side Clinic in Fort Worth, TX

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WEST SIDE CLINIC
2011 LAS VEGAS TRAIL
FORT WORTH, TX 76108
817-246-2446

TAPE – 787

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Westside Clinic. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: It depends how far along you are?

CALLER: How do you know? I’m not sure.

CLINIC: Do you know the first day of your last period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: January 3rd?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. You would probably be about almost 10 weeks.

CALLER: Okay. So how much would it be then?

CLINIC: Hold on, okay?

(Pause)

CLINIC: Your period was when did you say?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: January the 3rd. So that would be between 9 and 10 weeks. That would be $300. Up to 11 weeks will be $300. And it’s payable in cash or major credit card. And appointments are Tuesday through Saturday, and all appointments are in the morning. And all you have to do is call one day ahead of time to set up an appointment.

CALLER: The thing is — my main worry is I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No, uh-uh. No. If you’re under age, you have to have a parent.

CALLER: Well, is there any way not to tell my parents?

CLINIC: Hold on, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

(Short pause)

CLINIC: Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Who is this?

CLINIC: This is Westside Clinic.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, I was talking to someone different.

CLINIC: Huh?

CALLER: I was wondering if I could get an abortion. I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No, no. We would have to have a parent — do you live here in Fort Worth?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: And you’re 13?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: And you’re boyfriend’s 22.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. How far along are you? Do you know?

CALLER: The other lady said I was like 9 to 10 weeks.

CLINIC: Okay. What you’re going to have to do is come up here probably either tomorrow or Saturday. There’s a form that you’re going to have to fill out. And basically what it is, is you’re going to give me your name. And you’re going to have to send a certified letter to a parent.

CALLER: But I can’t tell my parents.

CLINIC: But if you just come here, what we need is an address to send a certified letter to. Even if the letter comes back to us, and it doesn’t get to the person it’s suppose to get to, once we wait 48 hours from when the letter went out, you can come in here and get a procedure.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Does that make sense?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. All you have to do is come up here and give me your name on a form, and you just write down the name of the parent, and just put an address that this letter is going to go to. And then we’re going to send that letter out. And if that letter comes back to us, it doesn’t matter — even if it comes back, it’s returned, it doesn’t get to your parents, we have to at least attempt to reach a parent. And after 48 hours if we don’t hear anything from anybody or we get the letter back, we can schedule you for an appointment even though you’re under age.

CALLER: Okay. But you’re sure my parents wouldn’t find out that way?

CLINIC: Well, like I said, we have to at least attempt to reach a parent. And I have a hotline phone number that you can try to call if you want to. And it’s a way to go through the court to bypass — it’s like getting a waiver for parental rights and parental consent. And they can give you some information on what you could do to also get around telling your parents about it.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Do you want that phone number?

CALLER: Yeah, please.

CLINIC: Let me give you that phone number. And if you decide you want to come up here and fill out a form for us to send a letter to an address that you give us, you can still do that too. But you have to do it in person. You have to come up here.

CALLER: But if I go to the court or whatever, I don’t have to fill out the form?

CLINIC: Right. And they’ll tell you what you need to do if you go this way, okay? It’s 1-866-999-5263. So call that number, and they can give you some more information on what you could do if you want to go through the court. Otherwise, if you decide to come up here and fill out that form, you just make sure you do it in the next few days so that we can send the letter Monday, and we can do the procedure next week.

CALLER: Well, the thing is me and my boyfriend were talking about all this, and he said he would pay cash for everything, but we don’t want anyone to know about us. If he was paying for everything, would he have to sign anything or fill out any forms?

CLINIC: No, no. If he’s paying cash, he can just come with you when you come get your procedure, and he can pay the cash.

CALLER: Okay. So nobody has to know about him?

CLINIC: No. Okay? So just try that phone number. And then if you decide to come up here and fill out that form, we can do it that way.

CALLER: Well, I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Would you guys do that there?

CLINIC: So you don’t even know if you’re pregnant or not?

CALLER: Well, I just haven’t had my period since like early January.

CLINIC: Do you have any symptoms?

CALLER: I don’t know.

CLINIC: Yeah, we do free tests if you want to come up here and get a test.

CALLER: Well, when do you do them?

CLINIC: Well, we close at 5. If you want to come up here today, just the next time you go to the bathroom, just get a sample of your urine and put it in a container with a lid, bring it up here, and we’ll run it for you.

CALLER: What time are you open tomorrow?

CLINIC: Tomorrow we open at 8:30, and we’ll be closing at 5.

CALLER: If it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: No. We only can give birth control to our patients.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Where would I go to get birth control?

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood could help you there probably.

CALLER: But would they have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Dawn.

CALLER: Okay. All right. So I can call you back if I have any questions?

CLINIC: Yeah, you can call back, and come up here for a test if you need to tomorrow. You could do that. And then at that same time you can fill out the form if you don’t go through the court, okay?

CALLER: Okay. Thank you.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

***END***

#472 – Planned Parenthood in Pampa, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
408 W. KINGSMILL AVE. # 173 A
PAMPA, TX 79065-6343
806-665-2291

TAPE – 472

(dialing sound) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Good morning, Planned Parenthood. This is Gloria. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know of anybody that does?

CLINIC: We have a pamphlet that gives you the name and numbers of places that do, and you’d have to call and find out on that. But we don’t do them here. I’m sorry.

CALLER: Oh. Well, could I come in and get the pamphlet though?

CLINIC: Um-hum. Have you already got your positive pregnancy test?

CALLER: Well, no. I’m just really worried because I haven’t had my period since like December 21st and I’m scared.

CLINIC: Okay. Yeah. You’d have to come in first and get that pregnancy test. And as soon as we get that pregnancy test we can give you that stuff. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, I’m just worried because like, well I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents that I’m there. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Um-um.

CALLER: No?

CLINIC: No. You’re 13 years old.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. Yeah, no. You’d have to — and this is one thing. I don’t know. It’s just the law that they have. Anybody who comes in under the age of 14 we have to report it, no matter what.

CALLER: Who do you have to report it to?

CLINIC: That I’d have to speak to my nurse practitioner for sure, but I think it’s someone in Lubbock.

CALLER: Lubbock?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Well, would they have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: I don’t know. That’s a totally different thing from us.

CALLER: But even if I came in there just for a pamphlet would you have to calla them?

CLINIC: No. Not if you just came in for a pamphlet. I mean, I won’t know who you are. I won’t know — you know, your age or anything like that. But if we do a pregnancy test on you and it comes out positive, we’ve got to.

CALLER: Oh. Well, what if it was negative?

CLINIC: If it was negative we wouldn’t have to worry about it, but if you’re really worried about getting pregnant you need to get on birth control.

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell my parents I’m on birth control?

CLINIC: No. No, we wouldn’t have to tell your parents you’re on birth control. Now, let me tell you that the law that, the same law I’m telling you about right now the only thing is if it comes out, if you ever have like a positive test as far as like, let’s see, STD test that comes out positive or something, we have to tell them on that. We have to tell, not your parents, but we have to tell the law on that.

CALLER: Oh. Well, what could happen?

CLINIC: I don’t know. We’ve never had to do it, so I don’t know. I couldn’t honestly tell you.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: But, yeah, if you’re going to want to do that though you need to come in, because if you need to get on birth control you need to do that soon because, I mean, if it comes out negative you need to get on something because you’re really young, and you won’t — I’m going to show you right now it will be hard for you to, you know, have a baby, especially at your age.

CALLER: Well, do you know, like I, it’s just the thing is I can’t drive or anything, but my boyfriend — would my boyfriend be able to pick up the pills if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No. You’d have to come in and pick those up. Now, you can come in like have someone maybe a friend or something drop you off. And you can come in, just swing by and pick them up. Like I said, you have to get your exam before we can do anything as far as like birth control. Okay? So if you’re going to want to do that you do, like I said, need to come in soon and do that because the sooner that you get it done the less you have to worry about it.

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell anybody about my boyfriend or anything if I came in?

CLINIC: I don’t know. That’s something I’d have to ask the nurse practitioner to make sure, but as far as them being that age and you being under the age of 14 I don’t know. I don’t know.

CALLER: Would it better if I didn’t say anything?

CLINIC: Well, see, I don’t know why not. I don’t — I’m trying to tell you I honestly I don’t know. But as far as that, I mean you can come in and do whatever you got to do. And I don’t know what happens in the exam room. I’ve only been in there like for translating, and I don’t stay in for the exam, so I don’t know what all gets asked.

CALLER: Oh. Well, if I was pregnant would you guys have to tell my parents then?

CLINIC: No. You would tell your parents. But this is what I’m saying though. With you being under the age of 14, it’s the law that we would have to report it to the law. And I don’t know what they do from there.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Well, either come by here or –

CALLER: Well, is there any way of getting around not having to tell my parents?

CLINIC: I mean, here we don’t tell your parents, okay? I’ll tell you right now. We don’t talk to parents at all. But, you know, if they were to come out positive, or whatever, and you know the law does their own thing. I don’t know what they do from here. We don’t tell your parents. I know that for sure because our confidentiality. But I don’t know what the enforcement, law enforcements do. So. Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All righty then. So just give me a call back or come back, come in here and we can do that. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. What was your name again?

CLINIC: It’s Gloria.

CALLER: Okay, thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

(phone clicks)

*** THE END ***

#473 – Planned Parenthood in Amarillo, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1501 S. TAYLOR ST.
AMARILLO, TX 79101-4307
806-372-8731

TAPE – 473

(dialing sound) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: (recording) Welcome to Planned Parenthood. If you know your party’s extension you may enter it at any time. (dial sound)

Please hold while I transfer you to the operator. (music) (ringing)

Good morning. Planned Parenthood. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know of anybody that does?

CLINIC: You would have to come in and get some pamphlets, and we can do counselling if you like. I’m not allowed to give that information over the phone.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Well, what time are you guys open?

CLINIC: You can come in any time. We just ask that you be here before 4:30 today.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: No, 6:30 today. Today is Tuesday. I’m sorry. Okay?

CALLER: Well, do you know — I’m just really worried because like — well, I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend said that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I really don’t know. You would have to come in. I’m not really allowed to give that information over the phone.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, would you guys have to tell my parents if I came in though?

CLINIC: No. No. You can just come in.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, is it all right if my boyfriend is there with me?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Because I don’t have any other way to get there.

CLINIC: That’s fine. That’s fine.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Do you guys do pregnancy tests there though?

CLINIC: Um-hum. We do pregnancy tests here also. All right?

CALLER: Well, how much do those cost?

CLINIC: Oh, they’re free, and we do those on a walk-in basis also.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know like if the pregnancy test came out that I wasn’t pregnant if I could get birth control?

CLINIC: Yeah. You could, we also have the HOPES program that we call. You can get up to three cycles of pills without an exam. How old are you, you said?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Yeah, okay. We can, they can also do that today if your test came out to be negative. You would have to talk to the nurse and see. It’s just really up to her.

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell anybody that I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No. Everything’s confidential.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just, me and my boyfriend were talking about all this, and we don’t want anyone to –

CLINIC: Yeah. Everything’s confidential. I mean, you don’t have to bring a parent in or anything for you to come in here.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay, so if I had a positive test would you have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. Everything’s confidential.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You would just get referred out to Medicaid if you’re wanting to keep the baby and then for that you’d just have to come in for counseling and stuff. Okay?

CALLER: Oh. Well, it’s just my friend told me that you would have to tell if I had a positive pregnancy test.

CLINIC: No. No. No. We don’t have to tell. Okay? Do you have any more questions?

CALLER: Well, if I do could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Martha.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay, thanks.

CLINIC: Okay. You’re welcome. Bye.

(phone clicks)

*** THE END ***

#474 – Planned Parenthood in Abilene, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
PO BOX 209
ABILENE, TX 79604
915-672-0574

TAPE – 474

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Jason. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we do not do those here at this clinic.

CALLER: Really? Do you know of anybody that does?

CLINIC: Dallas or Ft. Worth would be the closest place.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, do you know — like well, I’m just really worried because like, well I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents I’m getting an abortion. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I think you yourself would have to go before an attorney.

CALLER: Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: I’m not sure what the cost is on it.

CALLER: Oh. Okay. Well, what would I do with the attorney though?

CLINIC: They just make you sign some papers. It’s just an official red tape process.

CALLER: Okay. But do they always say it’s all right, and they wouldn’t have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: Well, to be honest with you I’m not sure what exactly happens there. You need to contact an attorney.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: And ask them.

CALLER: Well, do you guys do the pregnancy tests there though?

CLINIC: Yes, we will do that for free.

CALLER: Oh, really? But would you have to tell my parents about that?

CLINIC: Oh, no, not with the pregnancy test, no.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, but the only thing is, my boyfriend will be the only way I could get there. Would that be all right if he’s there with me?

CLINIC: Yes, of course.

CALLER: Okay. Well, it’s just — I’m wondering because like we were talking about all this, and we didn’t want anyone to know about us, so would you –

CLINIC: Don’t worry.

CALLER: — guys have to ask anything about him?

CLINIC: Well, not about him, no. He’s completely confidential. We’ll have to ask you some questions, but that’s it.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, you can.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, would you have to tell anybody if I was on birth control though? It’s just I don’t want to have to go through this again.

CLINIC: Actually, I do not know. If you want to come and take a pregnancy test, we can talk about it then though. Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Well, is there like a counselor or somebody there that –

CLINIC: There will be someone here you can talk to her, a nurse practitioner.

CALLER: Okay. Okay. Well, what was your name again?

CLINIC: Jason.

CALLER: All right. Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

*** THE END ***

#475 – Planned Parenthood in Odessa, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
910 S. GRANT AVE. # B
ODESSA, TX 79761-6316
915-580-7404

TAPE – 475

(dialing sound) (ringing 3X)

CLINIC: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Not at this clinic, but our Midland Planned Parenthood does.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know if — you know that number?

CLINIC: I sure do. It is 570-5184.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know — like I’m just really worried because my friend told me — well, I’m going to be 14 in March, and she said that they would have to tell my parents, but my boyfriend’s 22. Could they just have him sign whatever, and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. And it is parental consent. I mean, not parental consent. It’s just parental notification. But they do have to notify a legal guardian.

CALLER: Oh. Well, is there any way not to tell my parents, because well, it’s just, they can’t find out at all. I mean, if they — it’s just, they hate my boyfriend because — I mean, he’s a great guy. They just hate him because they think he’s too old for me. So they can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: Well, you can go through something called the Judicial Bypass and go before a judge, and you know, and try to — you know, if you explain your case and they think, okay, there’s a good reason for her parents not to know, then it can happen that way. We’ve got some information here on that if you want to come in and pick it up and go that way.

CALLER: Well, do they ever say no?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: They do. Yeah.

CALLER: Oh. Well, what would I do if they said no?

CLINIC: Then they’d have to notify your parents.

CALLER: Oh. All right. Well, could I come in there for like a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: Well, it’s just — I’m just scared because I haven’t had my period since like December 21st, and I don’t know what to do.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, go ahead and come in and take a pregnancy test. You can come in this afternoon from like 1 to 4, and then we’ll do a pregnancy test and we can give you some information.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know like the only way I’d be able to get there is if my boyfriend is there with me. Would that be all right?

CLINIC: Yeah. That’s fine.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just we were talking about all this, and we didn’t want anyone to know about us. But would you have to ask him any questions or anything?

CLINIC: No. Uh-uh.

CALLER: All right. Well, if I came in for a pregnancy test would you have to tell anybody that I was there for that?

CLINIC: No. Everything is confidential.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, do you know — like if the pregnancy test came out that I wasn’t pregnant would I be able to get birth control?

CLINIC: We could do a physical. We wouldn’t be able to do one today, but we could set you up an appointment for a physical, and we could get you started on birth control.

CALLER: Well, how soon could you like do that?

CLINIC: Well, we don’t have our schedule yet for March, but it would be sometime in March, probably within the next week or two.

CALLER: All right. Well, if I was on birth control would you have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. Uh-uh.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just, we don’t want to have to go through all this again. So.

CLINIC: Right. I understand.

CALLER: But do you know, like since I can’t drive yet, would my boyfriend be able to pick up the pills?

CLINIC: No. It would have to be you.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Okay. Well, let me talk to my boyfriend real quick. Can I call you back? What was your name?

CLINIC: Tanya.

CALLER: All right. Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Um-hum. Bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#476 – Planned Parenthood in El Paso, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
2817 E. YANDELL DR.
EL PASO, TX 79903-4026
915-566-6707

TAPE – 476

(dialing sound) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Regina speaking. Can you please hold?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: I’m sorry? No, we don’t.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, could i ask somebody some questions then?

CLINIC: Are you a patient here?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: No, then I cannot transfer you through.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know — could I ask you real quick? I’m just really worried.

CLINIC: Okay. As far as abortions, we don’t do abortions here. I really — if you need anything about abortions I can give you a number that you can call.

CALLER: Oh. Well, what is that?

CLINIC: The number is 544-2769.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know — like I’m just really worried because like, well my friend said that since like I’m going to be 14 in March that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I’m not sure, ma’am.

CALLER: Oh. Well, okay. Well, do you know if I could come in there for like a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Yeah. But you will have to go and set up an appointment for that. We don’t go by walk-ins.

CALLER: Oh. Well, what time do you guys do appointments?

CLINIC: It just depends on when you would like to come in. Hold on, okay?

CALLER: All right. (long pause)

CLINIC: Thank you for holding. How may I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. I was wondering if I could come in for a pregnancy test and –

CLINIC: When would you like to come in?

CALLER: Tomorrow, I think. What time do you have tomorrow?

CLINIC: What time I have? 8:30 tomorrow morning.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I’d have to call my boyfriend to see, but he’d be the only one that could bring me. Would that be all right if he was there with me?

CLINIC: That’s fine.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: But would anybody have to know about us or anything?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Um-um.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control?

CLINIC: You will have to have an exam done here first.

CALLER: Well, could I get that scheduled tomorrow?

CLINIC: How about 8:40? Is that fine?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Can I have your name?

CALLER: If I was on birth control, would you have to tell anybody though?

CLINIC: No, ma’am. May I have your name, please?

CALLER: It’s Christine.

CLINIC: Your last name?

CALLER: Smith.

CLINIC: Date of birth?

CALLER: March 19, 1988.

CLINIC: And day time phone number that we can contact you to confirm an appointment?

CALLER: Well -

CLINIC: Or we just go ahead and confirm it. What you need to do is go ahead and just bring in at least $10 with you. Okay? Also, we ask 24 hours prior to appointment do not have any sexual intercourse, no vaginal creams, no douching, and you cannot be on your period.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? So then we’ll see you tomorrow at 8:40.

CALLER: But would you have to tell my parents at all about anything?

CLINIC: I’m sorry?

CALLER: Would you have to tell my parents –

CLINIC: No. Everything that we do here is confidential.

CALLER: Everything?

CLINIC: Yes, ma’am.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay? Thank you. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#477 – Planned Parenthood in El Paso, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
10761 PEBBLE HILLS BLVD. # F
EL PASO, TX 79935-2037
915-595-1564

TAPE – 477

(dialing sound) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood East. This is Natalie. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was talking to Lupe, but the phone got disconnected. So –

CLINIC: Oh, okay. I’m sorry. And your name, ma’am?

CALLER: It’s — well, she just put me on hold.

CLINIC: Okay. Can I have your name?

CALLER: It’s Christine.

CLINIC: Just a moment. (long pause)

Ma’am?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: I know you’re holding for Lupe. She’s on another call right now. Is there anything I can help you with?

CALLER: Well, yeah. What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Natalie.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, I was just actually wanting to ask some questions, but like I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, sweetie, we don’t. But I can give you the number where we refer our patients.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: It’s for Women’s Reproductive Services, and let me get that number for you. Just a moment. Just a second.

CALLER: Well, do you know — like I’m just really worried because like I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: And my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Ummm — that’s a really touchy situation because of his age.

CALLER: Why?

CLINIC: Because that’s probably considered statutory rape.

CALLER: But he’s not raping me. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Right. I can just give you the number, ma’am. I really can’t give you any other information.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: It’s 544-2861.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? I really wouldn’t know how to advise you on that.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: All righty, hon?

CALLER: Well, do you know if I could come in there for like a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Uh, they do that there.

CALLER: Oh, well, it’s just my boyfriend told me to call you guys.

CLINIC: Well, if you’re considering termination of pregnancy I would go ahead and have everything done at one place so it’s not so much confusion.

CALLER: Well, I wasn’t really sure if I was pregnant actually. I’m just really scared because I haven’t had my period since like December 21st. And I’m worried.

CLINIC: I don’t blame you. You can come in.

CALLER: What time?

CLINIC: Well, do you have Medicaid?

CALLER: No. My boyfriend said he would pay for everything.

CLINIC: Okay. Can you hold for a moment, please?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Can you hold on for one second?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Thanks. (pause)

CALLER: (dialing sounds) (busy signal) (dialing sounds) (busy signal) (dialing sounds) (ringing)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood East. This is Natalie. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was just on the phone with you, but my friend’s mom came in and I had to hang up.

CLINIC: Right. I came back to the line. Can I give you a number you can go? There’s a confidential place you can go.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: For free pregnancy tests. Okay? It’s called the Sierra Teen Resource Center. Okay? And the number there is 755-8336. And it is free. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, would they have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: I don’t know what their policies are, dear. Okay? But –

CALLER: Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t’ pregnant, could I come and get birth control?

CLINIC: Yes, you could.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Do you have — you don’t have Medicaid, right?

CALLER: Right. Yeah. My boyfriend said he would pay for everything.

CLINIC: Okay. Why don’t you go ahead and find out –

CALLER: It’s just we don’t want to have to go through all this again.

CLINIC: Why don’t you go ahead and find out what’s going on? Okay? And then when you know call us back, and we can go ahead and talk to you and set up for an appointment.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if I was on birth control, would you guys have to tell anybody though?

CLINIC: There are laws that we have to follow regarding positive pregnancy tests or positive STDs in people under the age of 14. Okay? We have to abide by those laws.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: As far as telling your parents just if you come in? No, it is confidential. Okay? We do encourage you to talk to your parents. Your visit will be confidential. You know, we just have to follow the laws that we’re required to under the Texas statute. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, would it be all right if my boyfriend came in with me though?

CLINIC: You know, regarding that, it’s fine if you want to bring somebody in. But you’re telling me that he’s 22 and you’re 13?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. And you know, there are certain things that we have to do. We would need to talk to you in person. Okay? If you can bring somebody else with you it would be better. If you are dead set on bringing him, that’s fine. You do understand though that in Texas being that you’re 13 years old and he’s 22, that is considered statutory rape. You do understand that, right?

CALLER: Well, I don’t — I guess. I don’t know.

CLINIC: Okay. Why don’t you find out what’s going on first? Call the number that I gave you, and when you know what’s going on why don’t you give us a call and we can maybe talk about that a little bit further?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

(phone clicks)

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#467 – Planned Parenthood in Harlingen, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
712 N. 77TH SUNSHINE STRIP
HARLINGEN, TX 78550
956-423-8584

TAPE – 467

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t. We can refer you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: I can give you the number where you can call.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: It’s called Reproductive Services, and the number there is 428-6242.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know if — well I’m just really worried because like I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents.

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Uh-uh.

CALLER: Well, is there any way that my parents don’t have to find out?

CLINIC: I don’t think there’s a way to go around it.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Uh-uh.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: No, because it’s just a new law that came out, and if you are a minor then, yeah, they would have to let your parents know. Or you can call them and see what they can do for you, how they can help you. They would know more about it.

CALLER: Well, it’s just I’m really worried about all this because like the main reason why is because I haven’t had my period since like December 21, and I’m just scared.

CLINIC: Have you had a pregnancy test done?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Then that would be the first thing for you to do.

CALLER: Could I come in there for that?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Okay. Well, would you have to tell my parents that I was there for that?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: No?

CLINIC: Uh-uh.

CALLER: It’s just — me and my boyfriend were talking and he said he was going to pay for it, so is it– like is it all right if he was there with me?

CLINIC: Yeah. Can you hold on just a minute?

CALLER: Sure.

CLINIC: Let me let you talk to the manager. She can give you a lot more information on this. Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Hold on. (pause)

CLINIC: This is (Malinda?). May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wanting to ask a couple questions about getting an abortion?

CLINIC: Yes, ma’am.

CALLER: Well, it’s just — well I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just — is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody about anything?

CLINIC: No. Not at all. As a matter of fact — what’s your name?

CALLER: It’s Christine.

CLINIC: Christine, as a matter of face, it’s against the law for a 22-year-old to have sex with a 14-year-old, so don’t even say that.

CALLER: What do you mean?

CLINIC: It’s against the law. A 22 cannot have sex with 14-year-old. That’s rape.

CALLER: But he’s not raping me. We’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Right.

CALLER: What can I do?

CLINIC: Well, you’re 14. You had a pregnancy done already?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Okay, so you don’t really know that you are pregnant, right?

CALLER: Well, I just haven’t had my period since like December 21st.

CLINIC: So more than likely you are.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Okay. Have you been late with your period before?

CALLER: No, not really.

CLINIC: Okay. So you’ve been having sex and not using any protection?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: Right. Okay. Well, what they’re going to do is, you can go in and talk to them, you know, and call them on the phone and talk to them, but normally the parent has to sign for this.

CALLER: Oh. But my parents can’t find out at all. I mean, if they knew that we were having sex, I don’t know what they would do.

CLINIC: Right. They also have — they can waive this. You can go in there and talk to them and they can waive this, but in good — you would have to go in front of the judge and ask him, and go that way, you know, go around your parents by going to the judge and maybe he can waive this.

CALLER: Well, how much does all that cost? Like do I need a lawyer for that?

CLINIC: No. Uh-uh. No, you don’t need a lawyer. The termination itself is about — how far along though are you? It depends on how far along.

CALLER: I don’t know.

CLINIC: Okay. When was the first day of your last period?

CALLER: December 21st.

CLINIC: December 21st.

CALLER: That’s why I was wanting to come in and get a pregnancy test.

CLINIC: If you are pregnant, that’s going to put you –

CALLER: Do you know if it would be all right if my boyfriend came in with me to get a pregnancy test? He said that he was going to pay for everything.

CLINIC: When you come in — well, there’s no charge for the pregnancy test. But what happens, when you come in and you tell the girls that you’re 14 and he’s 22, that we will report this. We are going to report this to Child Protective Services.

CALLER: Oh. So what can I do then?

CLINIC: You can come in by yourself and have the pregnancy test done and don’t even — you know, don’t even say. But if, if you come and tell me then I need, my policy is I need to report this.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: I can’t do anything over the phone, but I can do it when you are here.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Let’s see. But that’s the law. Now February the 22nd you will be 9 weeks pregnant.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Oh, you were nine weeks pregnant already. So to terminate this pregnancy on March the 15th would be the last day to terminate this pregnancy. So you need to move on here, girl. You need to get in here so we can do a pregnancy test. You can go to any clinic you want to go and do a pregnancy test. Then talk to them and they will — then you would need to go to — the best thing to do would go — there’s some papers, some forms that we have that you need to fill out and take them to the Reproductive Services, and they can work with you on this.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Or just go into the Reproductive Services and have the pregnancy test done there, let them handle the paperwork and get you going as soon as possible.

CALLER: Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, ma’am. Um-hum.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody about that?

CLINIC: No. Everything here is confidential. No. We would not tell anybody about that. This is very confidential.

CALLER: Well, it’s just the thing is, that I don’t drive. I’m not old enough, but could my boyfriend pick up the pills if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No. You would need to come in.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Well, he can — I guess he can pick them up if you sign for the, but there’s a special form that we have. So where you can sign and give us permission, giving him permission to pick up the pills.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: But most of the time, you know, you need to — he can bring you and we can give you the pills.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: But you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about him or anything?

CLINIC: No, not at all, not — not if — if you didn’t say anything then we don’t know, right?

CALLER: Right. Okay.

CLINIC: And I just gave you a little heads up. (laughs)

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: But yeah, call Reproductive Services and tell them that you’re doing this and like I say, you can either come here or go there and do a pregnancy test and fill out the forms and they will guide you how to do this.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well –

CLINIC: If you have any questions then give us a call.

CALLER: Okay. What was your name?

CLINIC: Minnie.

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#478 – Planned Parenthood in Lubbock, TX

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
3821 22ND ST.
LUBBOCK, TX 79410
806-795-7123

TAPE – 478

(dialing sound) (ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Teresa. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: No. Aron’s (sp) Women’s Clinic.

CALLER: Do you have the number for that?

CLINIC: I don’t know. Hold on one moment. (pause)

Okay. It’s in the phone book. I’m not sure of the number.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know if — I’m just really worried because like — well my friend told me — like I’m going to be 14 in March. And she said that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend is 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. If you’re under 13, I mean under 14, it needs to be reported.

CALLER: Reported to who?

CLINIC: To the state.

CALLER: Well, what would happen?

CLINIC: He’ll get investigated for child abuse.

CALLER: Well, but he’s not abusing me. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: I understand that, but that’s just the law.

CALLER: Well, what should I do? I mean, I don’t want him to get in trouble.

CLINIC: Umm. That’s — I don’t know. Maybe you could just not tell them who. I don’t know. I don’t know what you could do. I mean, that’s the law.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You know, nothing I could tell you to do really.

CALLER: Well, it’s just I’m really worried about all this because like I haven’t had my period since like December 21st, and I’m scared. So I don’t know what to do.

CLINIC: Yeah. Well, you need to make an appointment there, and then let — they could tell you from there what you need to do because I’m not real familiar with that situation since we don’t do that here.

CALLER: Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test? It’s just, my friend told me to go to you guys because it was better.

CLINIC: Yeah. You could come here. They’re 8 if they’re negative and 30 if they’re positive because then they do an exam to see how far along you are.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Do you know like if you would have to tell my parents if I was there for that though?

CLINIC: Hold on. Yeah, we have to tell your parents.

CALLER: Oh. Well, would it be better — well, is there any way not to have to tell my parents at all?

CLINIC: I don’t know. Here, we would — I don’t know what other agencies do, but here we would have to. You might want to try the Storks Nest. They do free pregnancy testing there.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: What was that again?

CLINIC: The Storks Nest.

CALLER: Where is that?

CLINIC: That’s at Highland.

CALLER: Oh, okay. But if I came in for a pregnancy test you would have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Well, what if I wasn’t pregnant? Could I get birth control and you wouldn’t have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: You’d have to make an appointment here and get a pap smear done to become a patient here.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody if I was getting birth control there?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Okay. So — well I’m just really worried. I don’t know what to do.

CLINIC: I understand. Well go over there first and see if you are pregnant, and if you’re not then call back and make an appointment here. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

(phone clicks)

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