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#832 – Planned Parenthood Of Greater Cleveland in Bedford, OH

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF GREATER CLEVELAND
ROCKSIDE RD.
BEDFORD, OH 44146
440-232-9732

TAPE – 832

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: $320.

CALLER: I’m just kind of worried. I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Uh-uh. You can go to court and go through a judicial bypass, and see a judge, and he’ll grant you or not grant you permission to have the procedure done without your parents knowing.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: Nothing. I could give you the number, and you could call them and set up an appointment. It’s 216-443-3453.

CALLER: Does he usually say that it’s okay?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Okay. The thing is, my boyfriend said he would pay for everything in cash. But we were talking about all this, and we don’t want anyone to know about us. If he was paying for everything, would he have to sign anything —

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: — or have his name on any forms or anything?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: All right. Would you guys do a pregnancy test beforehand just to make sure that I was pregnant?

CLINIC: You haven’t done one?

CALLER: Well, no.

CLINIC: You can walk in and take a pregnancy test. They’re $10. We’ll be open tomorrow at 11:45 to 7.

CALLER: Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Okay. But would you have to tell anybody if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay. If I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: Michele.

CALLER: Okay. Well, let me talk to my boyfriend and see. Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Bye.

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#815 – Dayton Medical Center in Dayton, OH

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DAYTON MEDICAL CENTER
1401 E. STROOP RD.
DAYTON, OH 45429
937-293-3917

TAPE – 815

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Women’s (unclear) Center. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know how much it cost for that?

CLINIC: Yes, I do.

CALLER: How much?

CLINIC: That would depend on the length of pregnancy of the patient.

CALLER: Well, how do you know how pregnant you are?

CLINIC: You don’t know how pregnant you are?

CALLER: Well, no. I just haven’t had my period since January 15th, and I’m just really worried.

CLINIC: What was the first day of your last normal period?

CALLER: January 15th.

CLINIC: You haven’t taken a pregnancy test yet?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Okay. If you are pregnant, you would be about seven weeks. From 6 to 11 weeks, it’s $395.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, I have another question, actually. I’m just kind of worried. I’m going to be 14 the 19th, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. You’re either going to have to have parental consent or judicial bypass. Your boyfriend is 22, and you’re 14?

CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 on the 19th.

CLINIC: You’re 13.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Oh. You either have to have parental consent or a judicial bypass.

CALLER: What’s a judicial bypass?

CLINIC: That’s something you would have to get with the court, the Montgomery County court. And if you tell them your boyfriend is 22 and you are 13, they’re not going to give it to you.

CALLER: So I shouldn’t say?

CLINIC: I wouldn’t. Because, actually, he could get arrested on the spot.

CALLER: Oh. Why?

CLINIC: Because you’re 13 and he’s 22.

CALLER: So he could go to jail?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: But he can’t go to jail. I mean, he’s the only that’s ever there for me. He can’t — I don’t know what I’d do if he wasn’t there.

CLINIC: Those are your options. I’ve got somebody on the other line.

CALLER: Well, how much does it cost for the judicial bypass?

CLINIC: It doesn’t cost anything for judicial bypass. It’s completely free.

CALLER: So I could come in there for a pregnancy test, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about that?

CLINIC: You just go ahead and take a home pregnancy test. They work just fine.

CALLER: So those are normally right?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Well, if I got the judge to bypass, would you have to tell anybody about my boyfriend?

CLINIC: Would I have to?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: No. This is a doctor’s office.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay. Would I be able to get birth control anywhere?

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Oh, all right.

CLINIC: Thank you.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: I’m Jane.

CALLER: Okay. All right. Thanks.

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#777 – Founder’s Women’s Health Center in Columbus, OH

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FOUNDER’S WOMEN’S HEALTH CENTER
COLUMBUS, OH 43205
614-251-1800

TAPE – 777

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Thank you for calling (unclear) Women’s Health Center. can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Okay. How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: The fee is different depending upon how far along you are. Is this for yourself?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. What was the first day of your last normal period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: Okay. It looks like right now you’d be about nine-and-half weeks pregnant. It’s $350 total. Are you aware that you would have to come in for two visits?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: The reason you come for two is because, first of all, you have to come and sign consent forms and have your blood drawn in an ultra sound. And that’s your first visit. And then you have a 24-hour waiting period before you come back for surgery. And then you can come back anytime after the 24 hours is up and have surgery done. Is that something you want to set up an appointment for?

CALLER: Well, actually I was wondering — the thing is I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: The only way that you cannot tell your parents is if you go through the courts. And there’s a lot of paperwork you have to fill out. You have to go through the court system to prove that you’re old enough to handle this and do this with out a parental consent.

CALLER: Do I need a lawyer for that?

CLINIC: No. Can you hold for just a minute, and I’ll get information for you about that?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Hang on just a second, okay?

CALLER: All right.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Are you still there?

CALLER: I’m here.

CLINIC: Okay. Thanks for waiting, honey. What you can do is I can set up an appointment for you to come in for your first appointment, which is your counseling. And at that time we have to give you all the information about doing the court bypass. The court bypass is where you bypass any guardian having to come with you. And we can tell you what you’ll go through, what’s going to happen and all of that information, okay?

CALLER: Well, how much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: You need to come in with $150. And that’s for your ultra sound, your blood work, your counseling. And, obviously, we’ll give you information about the court bypass.

CALLER: How much does it cost for the court though?

CLINIC: I don’t believe that it does. I don’t think it does. But what I’m going to have to do is have you come in for that first visit at least. And then what you’ll have to do is we’ll give you all of the information here. And then after you’ve been given all of that information, then we have to wait for court papers and the okay before we can do anything else. Does that make sense?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Do you want to set up that first appointment?

CALLER: Well, I have to talk to my boyfriend to see. But we were talking about all this, and we decided we don’t want anyone to know about us. If he was paying for everything, would he have to fill out any forms or anything?

CLINIC: No. But you need to have a birth certificate with you. Can you get a hold of that?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: You need your birth certificate, some type of an i.d., like a student i.d. from school or a state i.d. Do you have like an i.d, before you get a drivers license? Do you have a state i.d.?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Do you have a school i.d.?

CALLER: Well, I’m homeschooled.

CLINIC: Oh goodness. Do you have anything that has a picture of you with your name on it? Like the only other thing would be like a school book. Like a school year book has a picture with your name on it.

CALLER: Well, I’m homeschooled. I don’t have a —

CLINIC: I know. Do you have anything else like that?

CALLER: Not really. Well, how do I get a state i.d.?

CLINIC: What I would recommend for you to do, you can go to the Bureau of Motor Vehicles and go get a state i.d.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You can do that. That’s very easy to do. You’ll probably need your Social Security number with you, your birth certificate, that sort of thing. Do you have a Social Security card?

CALLER: I don’t know. I don’t think so.

CLINIC: This is stuff you have to have to be able to come in for your first visit even. Write this down, honey, so that you know, okay? You have to have your Social Security card, you have to have a birth certificate, your name, all that good stuff.

CALLER: Well, my mom might know if I have a Social Security card, but I’m not sure.

CLINIC: Yeah. You’ll have to definitely ask her for it. Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Do you want to go ahead and make your first appointment or talk to your boyfriend first, and then let him know these are the things you have to have, and then call us back?

CALLER: Well, when do you have your times? When do you have any open times?

CLINIC: You come in anytime Monday through Friday. We have different appointments. You can schedule that anytime between Monday through Friday for your first appointment. On Mondays and Thursdays your appointment’s going to be at 9:00. If you come on Tuesday, Wednesday or Friday, it’s at 8:00. There’s a first appointment Monday through Friday that we do —

CALLER: I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Would you guys do that there?

CLINIC: Yes. That you can do without anybody having to know about. What you have to do is take your first morning urine. So when you first get up in the morning and you have to go to the bathroom, put it in some type of a container with a tight lid. Usually like a little pill bottle will work best. And it has to be a clean container. You drop that off between 12 and 1 Monday through Friday. And then you call back an hour-and-a-half later to find out your results.

CALLER: And you’re sure that nobody would have to know about me and my boyfriend?

CLINIC: Nobody has to know about that. No. All the information that I’m telling you up until this point can be kept from anybody. So I would recommend you do your pregnancy test first; then you and your boyfriend can discuss what you’re going to do from there.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: What you’ll probably have to do is wait for tomorrow when you get a first-morning urine, because it has to be the first time you go in the morning.

CALLER: Well, If it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: Yes. We can bring you in for those appointments too. We can give you all that information.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: Seventy-five dollars, an annual exam. Have you ever had that done before?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: A pap test?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: It’s $75. And we give you two packs of birth control pills. And then we give you a prescription for four months. We give you a pap test, and then you’ll get screened for any sexually transmitted diseases. And all of those appointments are on Wednesdays only. We can also offer you a school excuse — well, you’re not going to need that with your mother. Never mind. I was thinking going back to school if you need an excuse. But, yes, you can do that.

CALLER: My boyfriend and I don’t want to have to go through all this again.

CLINIC: Well, it’s a very smart decision for you to make. If you turn up negative, definitely you’re going to want to get on birth control. But even if you do have to go through all this, you do decide to have the abortion, we can still get you started on birth control after your surgery. And while you’re here we give you all of that information. And we also do all of the exams and check-ups for birth control here as well. So you can even start coming here after an abortion for all of your birth control needs.

CALLER: Okay. You’ve just been so nice. I wish I could talk to my mom like I’m talking to you. Could I call you if I had any other questions? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Jennifer. You can always call me back and ask me any questions. And I’m a mom. And hopefully someday my daughter will say that about me (chuckles). So if you do need any other help, honey, just let me know. But please come in and do your pregnancy test first. That’s the best step.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: We’ll see you soon. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#778 – Center For Choice Ii in Toledo, OH

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CENTER FOR CHOICE II
328 22ND ST
TOLEDO, OH 43604
419-255-7769

TAPE – 778

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Center for Choice. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: Are you a student or do you receive any type of government assistance for your health care?

CALLER: Well, I’m homeschooled.

CLINIC: Excuse me?

CALLER: I’m homeschooled.

CLINIC: So you’re a minor?

CALLER: Well, yeah. Well, I’m going to be 14 later on this month. My friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. What we would need to do is — number one, it has to be a legal parent or guardian. And I know that he’s neither. Is telling your parents not a possibility?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, then you would need to go through the bypass system, which means that you would need to go in front of a judge. And it’s not as bad as it sounds. You would just need to go in front of a judge and basically explain why it wouldn’t be in your best interest to tell your parents about it.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: Are you a student or do you receive any type of government assistance for your health care?

CALLER: No. I’m homeschooled.

CLINIC: So he would be paying for it?

CALLER: Right, yeah. He said that he would pay for everything.

CLINIC: It would be 400.

CALLER: The thing is, we don’t want anyone to know about us. If he was paying for everything in cash would he have to sign anything or fill out any forms?

CLINIC: He has nothing to do with it. It would be all you.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, how much does it cost for the bypass thing?

CLINIC: That’s included.

CALLER: Oh, it is?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Well, does the person ever say no or anything?

CLINIC: Not that I know of, but it happens. Do you want to make an appointment?

CALLER: I’ve got to call my boyfriend to see, but what times do you have open?

CLINIC: You wouldn’t be able to get in until Monday for your first visit because we do procedures on Friday. So you would need to come in for a visit prior to that. So you wouldn’t be able to come in tomorrow.

CALLER: Well, I haven’t had a pregnancy test. Would you guys be able to do that beforehand?

CLINIC: Yes. What’s your name?

CALLER: Lisa.

CLINIC: You can come in and take one for like $2.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody if I was there for that?

CLINIC: We’re like any other doctor’s office. We can’t tell anything unless you say that we can. And we’re not going to schedule an appointment until you’ve had a pregnancy test. So why don’t you come in and take a pregnancy test first.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: How much does it cost for birth control?

CLINIC: Well, if you wanted to be on the pill, it would be $50 for a pap smear and then six months of birth control pills would be included with that.

CALLER: Oh, okay. But would anybody have to know if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No, honey. No one has to know anything unless you tell. Anything you do here, nothing, not unless you tell them.

CALLER: All right. I’m just really confused, and I have so many questions. But I can’t think of anything right now. If I thought of something else to ask, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Patrice.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thank you.

CLINIC: You’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#771 – Planned Parenthood Of Cleveland in Cleveland, OH

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF CLEVELAND
12000 SHAKER RD.
CLEVELAND, OH 44120
216-991-4000

TAPE – 771

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Thanks for calling (unclear). How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: We do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: What was the first day of your last menstrual period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: Okay, which means you are probably about nine weeks pregnant. Is there any insurance or public assistance you would use?

CALLER: Well, the thing is I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents about all this. But my boyfriend’s 22, and he said he would take care of everything with cash. So would he be able to do that, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Well, it’s not about the money. Ohio has a law, a parental notification law. If a woman is under 18, yes, you must have the signature of a parent or a legal guardian, or you can go through juvenile court and get something called a judicial bypass, in which case you don’t have to tell a parent.

Where do you live?

CALLER: I live in Cleveland Heights.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, do you have a pencil and paper?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Because I’m going to give you a couple phone numbers. And you can call juvenile court, and they can take care of that for you. And then you will not have to tell your parents. I need you to hold on for me one second.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Thanks.

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CLINIC: Thanks for waiting. Got a pen?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: These are all 216 numbers. The general number is 443-3451. You can call Mike at 443-3452 or Doris at 698-6544. And they can take care of that for you.

Now, when you come in, we’ll do an ultra sound. We do one on everybody. I assume, since you’re not telling parents, there’s no insurance you’ll be using, right?

CALLER: Right. My boyfriend said he would pay for everything.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, if you’re anywhere from 4 through 12 weeks — and like I said, you’re probably about nine now — the fees are $350 with local anesthetic. That means that you’re awake and you know what’s going on during the abortion. But we numb your cervix; $415 if you wanted to have sedation, where we still numb your cervix, but then we also give you a sedative through an IV that makes you relaxed and groggy and kind of out of it, but not completely asleep. And it’s 465 if you wanted to be completely asleep.

The actual abortion itself in the first trimester should take three to five minutes to perform. And those fees include everything– ultra sound, lab work, check out, birth control, all that sort of stuff.

CALLER: Well, do I need to pay for a lawyer to do the judicial thing?

CLINIC: No. It does not cost you anything. People think it’s this huge big deal, and it will take weeks to do, and it’s not. They have to see you — I think it’s within 72 hours. So give them a call.

CALLER: So do they ever say no or anything?

CLINIC: The judge can, but here in *Cuyahoga County the judges are good about granting them.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: And you’ll have a lawyer, something called a guardian ad litem, that’s appointed free to represent you through that.

CALLER: Me and my boyfriend were talking about all this, and we don’t want anyone to know about us. Would anyone have to know about him through all this?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: So you guys would do a pregnancy test before everything and make sure I am pregnant?

CLINIC: Have you taken a pregnancy test?

CALLER: Well, no.

CLINIC: I’d encourage you to do that first of all. I mean, women can miss periods for other reasons. You can come here and do that. They’re free. You can just walk in. You can do that today up until 7:00 or Friday or Saturday between 9 and 1. And if you schedule an appointment to come for an abortion, we do an ultra sound. So we know not only that you’re pregnant but how many weeks pregnant you are.

CALLER: Well, if turned out that I wasn’t pregnant after taking a pregnancy test, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: Well, you can get it through out Planned Parenthood clinic, yes.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, would they have to tell anybody if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No. In the state of Ohio it doesn’t matter how old you are, your parents do not have to be informed for you to get birth control.

CALLER: And you’re sure nobody has to know about my boyfriend either?

CLINIC: Nope.

CALLER: Okay. All right. What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Heather. But anyone who answers the phone here can help you.

CALLER: And you said just to call you back after the judicial bypass?

CLINIC: Well, you can go ahead and schedule an appointment with us anytime. Again, I would suggest that you probably take a pregnancy test first. And you can call juvenile and just get information, maybe kind of get an idea of how long that will take so you’ll know when to schedule it for. But we have appointments. We can always see you within a week.

CALLER: Do you ever do them on Saturdays?

CLINIC: We do.

CALLER: What time on Saturday?

CLINIC: Well, I’m assuming you want to do this all in one visit, right?

CALLER: Yes.

CLINIC: 7, 8, 9 10, 11 a.m.

CALLER: It’s just my boyfriend works from 8 to 5 Monday through Friday.

CLINIC: Saturday would be fine. And we have appointments available for next Saturday. Do you want to go ahead and make an appointment?

CALLER: Well, let me call and make sure with him, and then call you back. Is that all right?

CLINIC: Sure. I’ll be here until 6:00.

CALLER: Do I need to call the juvenile people first?

CLINIC: You don’t have to, but I probably would and just kind of find out how that will go for you, how long that will take.

CALLER: Okay. So thanks.

CLINIC: Sure. No problem.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#772 – Center For Women’s Health / Abortion Access in Cleveland, OH

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CENTER FOR WOMEN’S HEALTH / ABORTION ACCESS
11410 SHAKER RD
CLEVELAND, OH 44120
216-295-2500

TAPE – 772

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Center for Women’s Health?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Um-hmm. We do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: How many weeks?

CALLER: I’m not sure. How do you know?

CLINIC: What was the first day of your last period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: January 3rd. Today is the 7th. Okay. You would be in your ninth work. Do you get government assistance?

CALLER: Well, no. The thing is I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend was wanting to take care of everything. Would you have to tell —

CLINIC: Hold on. One thing at a time. Do you get government assistance?

CALLER: No. But my boyfriend’s 22. He said that he would pay for everything.

CLINIC: Wait a second though. You need prices, okay? So we’ve got to get through one thing at a time, because I’ve got another person on hold too.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So you’re a student?

CALLER: I’m homeschooled.

CLINIC: So it would be 315 to be awake, and it would be 375 to be asleep or sedated up to 12 weeks. That’s for up to 12 weeks.

Now, what you need to do — where are you at, what city?

CALLER: I live in Cleveland Heights.

CLINIC: You need to call Cuyahoga County and get a judicial bypass.

CALLER: What is that?

CLINIC: That allows you to not tell your parents and get the procedure since you don’t want to tell your parents. Because otherwise you have to bring your parents or you have to bring a legal guardian.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: I don’t know that it cost anything. But you need to call this number. Are you ready?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: 216-443-8400. Okay? Call them today. Call them as soon as you get off the phone with me. Tell them that you want to get an abortion, and you don’t want to let your parents know, and you want a judicial bypass.

CALLER: A judicial bypass?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Well, do they ever not give it to people?

CLINIC: I don’t know whether they do or not, but you need to move on it so you can see what’s going to happen and find out.

CALLER: Me and my boyfriend were talking about this, and he was going to pay for everything. But we don’t want anyone to know about us. Would he have to fill out any forms if he was paying?

CLINIC: Everything is confidential even if you have to fill out forms. You’re still going to have to do this because this is the law in Ohio.

CALLER: It’s just my boyfriend doesn’t want his name on anything.

CLINIC: What’s with your boyfriend?

CALLER: Huh?

CLINIC: What’s with your boyfriend?

CALLER: What do you mean?

CLINIC: I mean, what’s going on that he doesn’t want his name, he doesn’t want this?

CALLER: Well, we just don’t want anyone to know about us. So we know that my name has to be on stuff, but we don’t really want his name on anything.

CLINIC: Okay, that’s fine. So fill it out so that his name’s not on it. It shouldn’t be asked anyway. It’s not anyone’s business. You’re going to need to call them like right away and find out what’s going on as far as getting a judicial bypass, okay? And then call us back.

CALLER: Well, do you guys do pregnancy tests there just to make sure I am pregnant?

CLINIC: Yeah. And you should do a pregnancy test before you go through any of this stuff unless you have reason to thin otherwise.

CALLER: Well, do I come in there for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: You can do that if you want to.

CALLER: Well, how much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: It’s free.

CALLER: How soon would I know if I was pregnant?

CLINIC: Today. If you came in today, you’d know today.

CALLER: How late are you guys open today?

CLINIC: Just come in by 4:00. We’ll do them until then. You need to get here before 4.

CALLER: Okay. If it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: You might need to go to Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Oh, all right. But would they have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I would have to find out about that. I have to take another line right now.

CALLER: Okay. Well, let me call the people and then call you back. What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Deb. But you may not be able to reach me. I’ll be in with patients.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Bye.

CALLER: Thanks.

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#773 – Cleveland Surgi-center in Cleveland, OH

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CLEVELAND SURGI-CENTER
5 SEVERANCE CIRCLE
CLEVELAND, OH 44118
216-381-0020

TAPE – 773

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Thank you for calling Cleveland Surgi-Center. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: Do you have private insurance through your job?

CALLER: Well, no. I don’t have a job. I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No, no, no. We can’t touch you. Your parents have to sign for that. Your boyfriend can’t sign for nothing.

CALLER: Why?

CLINIC: Because you are a minor. You is not that man’s child. You is just his woman. If he sign for it, then we will be in trouble. If the state come in, they will shut us down, hon. We cannot let your boyfriend sign for anything. Your parents have to do it.

CALLER: But I can’t tell my parents. I mean, if they found out — they know we’re going out. He works with my dad. But if they found out we were having sex, I don’t know what they would do. They can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: Then I can’t help you because your parents have to know, at least one of them. Because one of them have to sign for it.

CALLER: Well, is there any way not to have to tell them at all?

CLINIC: No, there’s no way.

CALLER: Well, could I go someplace else?

CLINIC: Nobody can do it, nobody, because your parents have to sign for it.

CALLER: Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test just to make sure I am pregnant?

CLINIC: Yes. Yes, you can. You can come in tomorrow between the hours of 8 and 12.

CALLER: But would anybody have to tell anybody if I was there for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No, no. Now that they won’t know.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: So nobody would have to know about my boyfriend and me or anything?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: No. You have to go to Planned Parenthood for birth control. If you’re not a patient of ours, we don’t give it, unless you want to go through our family planning, which we would have to charge you $175. And I don’t even know if we can do that without parent consent.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Hold on. Hold on.

(Talking to someone else) Hey Glenner (?), can we see a 14-year-old for family planning?

BACKGROUND VOICE: I don’t think so.

CLINIC: Hold on one second. The woman I need to ask just went in the bathroom. Can you hold?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay.

(Pause)

CLINIC: What was your last period, hon?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: January 3rd?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Okay. You will be about 9 or 10 weeks. Okay hold on.

CALLER: Okay.

(Pause)

RECORDING: Thank you for calling the Cleveland Surgi-Center, the center of choice for area hospitals and doctors. You’ll find us conveniently located at 3535 Lee Road, just one block south of Chagrin Boulevard in Shaker Heights. For over 24 years our caring and experienced staff has been providing women in the area —

CLINIC: Hello?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: No, we can’t do it. You would have to have your parents — now we can do the pregnancy test. You can come in for a pregnancy test. But other than that, we cannot offer no more services to you if you don’t have your parents with you.

CALLER: But you’re sure nobody has to know about my boyfriend if we come in for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Nobody will know about the pregnancy test. But if you wanted to do the abortion thing, your parents will know because they have to come in and sign for it.

CALLER: Oh. Maybe I can talk to my parents. I’m not sure. But can I call you back? What was your name?

CLINIC: Dee.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome.

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#774 – Akron Center For Choice / Akron Assn. Of Doctors in Akron, OH

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AKRON CENTER FOR CHOICE / AKRON ASSN. OF DOCTORS
88 S. PORTAGE PATH # 106
AKRON, OH 44303
330-867-3400

TAPE – 774

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Akron Center for Choice. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: Do you know how far along you are?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Hold on one second, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Do you know when your last menstrual period started?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: January 3rd?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: That’s going to put you at about 9 or 10 weeks right now, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: The prices I’m going to give you are going to go up through your 12th week. Are you a student or do you have any government assistance?

CALLER: Well, no. I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents about all this. But my boyfriend’s 22. He said he would take care of it all. Would that be all right?

CLINIC: If what? If he paid it?

CALLER: Right, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: The only reason we wouldn’t be able to tell anybody is if you had what’s called a court bypass. What you do is you’re going to have to go to court. You’re going to have to make an appointment with somebody. And you’re going to explain to the judge why you feel that you need to terminate the pregnancy. And if the judge feels that you’re responsible enough to make a decision like that on your own, then he can grant you that.

CALLER: Does he ever not grant that?

CLINIC: There’s situations where he hasn’t. If he feels that it’s a reasonable situation, then I don’t see why he wouldn’t. But I’m not to sure about how they do that or how they go about it, okay?

CALLER: Do I need like a lawyer?

CLINIC: No. What county do you live in?

CALLER: I live in Kent.

CLINIC: In Kent, which is Portage County?

CALLER: I think so.

CLINIC: Mike says — one of the nurses here. He says that you really should probably not have a problem with that, getting it granted to you. You probably shouldn’t.

(Talking to someone else). How old is she? Fourteen.

Fourteen?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 on the 19th.

CLINIC: You’ll be how old, hon?

CALLER: Fourteen.

CLINIC: (Talking to someone else) Yeah, she’ll be 14 on the 9th, on Saturday.

CALLER: No, on the 19th.

CLINIC: (Talking to someone else) Oh, on the 19th.

Okay. Well, at your age it might be a little more difficult to get that. But I mean, that’s what you’re going to have to do if you’re trying not to tell your parents, okay? But if that doesn’t work out, then you’re going to have to have a parent come with you in order for us to do the procedure.

CALLER: The thing is, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything with cash, but he just doesn’t want anyone to know about us. Would he have to sign any forms or anything?

CLINIC: No. That doesn’t matter who pays. That’s not what the whole deal is. By law, we can’t do the procedure unless you have the court bypass or unless we have a parent or guardian’s signature.

CALLER: Well, after I get the bypass or whatever, would anyone there have to know about him?

CLINIC: No, nothing at all. I mean, if you have that, then it’s our responsibility to keep all of your information confidential. We’re not allowed to give out your name to anybody.

CALLER: How much does it cost to get the bypass?

CLINIC: You know I really don’t even know. I don’t think it cost anything for that exactly. I think it cost to pay for the court. Do you know what I mean, to pay for the court visit. But I’m not even sure how much that is. I don’t think it’d be any more than 50. I’m not even sure if it’s that much or if it even cost at all. But you have to call the county courthouse, wherever that is or whatever phone number that is. It will be in the front section of the phone book in federal offices — or in state offices; I’m sorry. Just look under there, and call them and find out what you need to do. Because I know you’re going to have to make an appointment with somebody first. And you’re going to go see them. And then after you see them, you’re going to have to schedule another appointment for the judge. So depending when they can get you in, that can take up to a couple weeks.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: But the price for it, because you’re still in school, it would be either 275 or 300, depending on which anesthetic you wanted.

CALLER: Do you guys do a pregnancy test first just to make sure? Because I haven’t had one yet.

CLINIC: You haven’t had one yet? What’s making you think you’re pregnant?

CALLER: Well, I haven’t had my period since January.

CLINIC: We can give you a pregnancy test. I would recommend, before you even go through all the trouble of coming here, is to go ahead and get a store pregnancy test, just like a drug store pregnancy test.

CALLER: Are those usually right though?

CLINIC: I mean, they’re just as accurate as anything else. The only difference between them is they may not show up as early as the pregnancy test here will. But because you’ve already missed a period for a whole month, it should be okay. It will show up. But if it shows up negative for some reason, then we’ll do another one here. But before you even go through the trouble of that, I would just recommend going to get one from the store.

CALLER: If it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, could I come in to see you guys and get birth control?

CLINIC: We don’t really deal with that unless you’re one of our patients. What you could do is I would recommend going to Planned Parenthood. You don’t have to have any parent — like any signatures or any parent come with you or anything like that. It’s all up to you. They’re not allowed to tell your parents about anything, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And if you need to go through them, and they have to call you for some reason, they’ll have a code name with you. I mean, it’s real in detail. But I would recommend if you’re not pregnant, go to Planned Parenthood, the closest one to your house or something, and just ask them about birth control. The way that they charge it is on income. So I’m assuming you don’t have a job.

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: So they probably will just do it by donation, which means they give it to you for free with a recommended donation of X amount of dollars.

CALLER: Would my boyfriend be able to pick up the pills if I was on birth control since I can’t drive yet?

CLINIC: Yeah. You would probably have to be with them, though. In order to get started on it, you’re going to have to be with them, and they’re probably going to give you a starter pack and possibly write you a prescription form. I’m not sure how they work that though. Take it one step at a time first before you worry about that.

First off, go get a pregnancy test from the store and see if you’re pregnant. If you are pregnant, then go through the whole court deal. And then if that works out, then give us a call, and we’ll schedule you an appointment. If you’re not pregnant, then call up Planned Parenthood and set up an appointment to go in to get checked out and see what kind of birth control they recommend for you. And then they can deal with that. And they’ll set up some type of schedule where you come get them or they’ll write you a prescription or something like that. But take it one step at a time.

CALLER: Okay. I wish I could talk to my mom like I’m talking to you. I’m just really worried. But could I call you and ask you if I had any other questions?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Tara.

CALLER: Okay. All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome, honey.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

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#775 – Akron Women’s Medical Group in Akron, OH

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AKRON WOMEN’S MEDICAL GROUP
839 E MARKET ST
AKRON, OH 44305
330-535-9191

TAPE – 775

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Akron Women’s Medical Group. This is Judy. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Do you know how much it cost?

CLINIC: I sure do, honey. How far into the pregnancy are you?

CALLER: I don’t know. How do you know?

CLINIC: Can you tell me the first day of your last normal period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: If January 3rd is correct, about right now you’re about almost nine weeks. The cost up to 12 weeks is between 300 and $400. And the cost difference, it just matters what type of anesthesia you use and when you come in.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: The thing is I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No, honey. No. You have to have a parent permission. You’re 14 and he’s 22?

CALLER: Well, I’m going to be 14 on the 23rd.

CLINIC: You’re not 14 yet?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: Okay. You’re 13 and he’s 22 (laughing)?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: This is the same thing you would hear from your parents.

CALLER: Well, they know we’re going out. I mean, he works with my dad. They don’t know that we’re having sex. If they found out about that, I don’t know what they would do.

CLINIC: Let me ask you a couple questions, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: What would happen if you told your mom?

CALLER: I don’t know. She would — I don’t know. They would just be furious.

CLINIC: Okay. What county do you live in?

CALLER: I live in Kent. I’m not really sure which county it is.

CLINIC: Okay. If you live in Kent, Ohio, you live in Portage County. I’m going to tell you what you can do to get around telling your parents. But I think in the long run it’s always better if you can tell your parents. Even though you know they’re going to get angry, honey, you’re 13 years old. You should have your parents’ help in this, all right? Because there’s a lot of things that can happen.

Are you on any birth control?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: How long have you been sexually active?

CALLER: Well, about six months.

CLINIC: At 13 if you’re going to be having sex with a 22-year-old, which is really a problem right there —

CALLER: What do you mean?

CLINIC: First of all, he shouldn’t be having sex with a 13-year-old, okay? Because there’s a lot of responsibilities that go along with that. First of all, birth control is very important, not just because you can get pregnant, because there’s a lot of other things can happen to you. And your parents can help you with that. I’m not trying to sound like an old drudge here. It’s just that you need to take care of yourself. And someone that’s much older than you like that doesn’t have your best interest at heart.

CALLER: I mean, he loves me. We’re going to get married. And he said he would take care of me forever.

CLINIC: Okay. But he shouldn’t be getting you pregnant at 13, even if you’re almost 14, because it’s hard on you to have a baby as young as you are, okay?

Now, what you can do to get around this — and I can’t help but to try to help you out here because that’s what I do — you can go to the — and I would probably not go to Portage County. I would come to Summit County. I’m sure he drives. It wouldn’t be a problem for you. Come to Summit County because the judge here in Summit County is very easy. She is not difficult to get.

What you need to do is go to the juvenile court here in Summit County, and you need to speak to a Judge Judith Hunter. And she will give you permission in this instance to act in your own behalf. And what it’s called is a judicial bypass. I will be happy to give you the number, honey. The number is 330-643-2900. You call them up and make an appointment to get a judicial bypass. And what you have to take with you, among other things, is proof of pregnancy. I’m sure you’d have to have your birth certificate with you too.

CALLER: Well, I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet.

CLINIC: Okay. The best thing you can do then, sweetie — do you know where we’re located?

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend does.

CLINIC: Have him bring you here, and we’ll run a pregnancy test, and I can give you a letter stating proof of pregnancy.

CALLER: What time should I come?

CLINIC: Anytime today. My name’s Judy, and I’ll be at the front desk when you come in.

CALLER: What are your hours today?

CLINIC: We’ll open until 6. But do come in way before that, okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Can you tell me about what time you’ll come in?

CALLER: Well, I have to call him and see when he can come and get me.

CLINIC: All right, honey. What’s your first name?

CALLER: It’s Lisa.

CLINIC: Lisa? Okay. I’m right here. My first name is Judy.

CALLER: Would there be any way, like if I wasn’t pregnant, to get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: No, honey. You’d have to go to Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: But would they have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No, uh-uh. I think they keep it totally confidential. So first thing we have to do, Lisa, before we jump off the bridge is find out if you’re pregnant.

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell anybody about me and my boyfriend if I came in for a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Oh, no, no, no. This is strictly between me and you.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about anything?

CLINIC: No, no, honey. This is totally confidential. This is between you, me and him. So if you can get in some time today, even tomorrow, we’ll run a pregnancy test. If you happen to be positive, then I can give you a letter so you can take it to court, and get you started on this whole thing. All right, sweetie? I’ll be glad to help you out.

CALLER: Well, how much does it cost to go to court?

CLINIC: All of these things are free. I don’t think there’s any cost to that.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: But that’s a question when you call to make your appointment you might want to ask them because truly I’ve never called them and asked them that one. All right?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay, Lisa. So I’ll either see you later today or tomorrow.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right, honey.

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: You’re welcome. Bye bye.

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#776 – Medical Planning Services in Akron, OH

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MEDICAL PLANNING SERVICES
692 E MARKET ST
AKRON, OH 44306
330-773-6811

TAPE – 776

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Thank you for calling Medical Planning. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: How far along are you? Do you know that?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: When was your last period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: That would bring you to being about nine weeks. It would be $395. That would include your medications, your birth control pills, your follow-up visit.

CALLER: I’m kind of worried. I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it all, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 later on this month, like on the 19th.

CLINIC: Okay. So right now you’re only 13?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: You would have to have a parent accompany you here.

CALLER: Oh. Well, is there any way not to do that? Because I can’t tell them at all.

CLINIC: Not at your age there’s not.

CALLER: What can I do? I mean, they can’t find out at all. They know my boyfriend. He works with my dad, and they know we’re going out. But they don’t know we’re having sex. If they found out about that, I don’t know what they would do. They can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: (Pause) Here at our center, if you’re under — you would have to have a parent come with you. You can’t even go through the court system at 13. If you were older, a judge could determine if you are mature enough to make this decision on your own, but at 13 I don’t think he would do that.

CALLER: Well, what should I do?

CLINIC: You’re going to have to tell mom or dad.

CALLER: But I can’t tell them.

CLINIC: And that’s your only option. You’re going to have to tell them or you’re going to have to continue the pregnancy.

CALLER: Well, I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Could I come in there for that, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Not at your age. You could buy one at the drug store and do at home if you’d like.

CALLER: Are those usually right?

CLINIC: Yeah, they’re pretty accurate.

CALLER: Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: We don’t do that, but Planned Parenthood does.

CALLER: Would they have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I don’t think so.

CALLER: Oh, okay. If I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Vicky (sp).

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Sure, you can call.

CALLER: All right. Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

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