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#059 – Planned Parenthood in Morristwon, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
196 SPEEDWELL AVE
MORRISTWON, NJ 7960-3889
973-539-1364

TAPE – 059

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Ann speaking.

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, not here. But we would give you a referral.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You need to come in and see our doctor.

CALLER: Oh. Can I ask a couple of questions first?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: Well, my main question is, my friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: Do you live in New Jersey?

CALLER: Yeah, I do.

CLINIC: No. Then you don’t.

CALLER: Oh, okay. The problem is they can’t tell my parents at all, not at all. Because like my boyfriend is 22. And we’re planning to get married because we really love each other. But my parents hate him because they think he’s too old for me.

CLINIC: Well, how old are you?

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 in March.

CLINIC: You’re 13 and he’s 22?

CALLER: Uh-huh. But we’re in love, and we’re going to get married. And he’s going to take care of everything.

CLINIC: Well, I’m going to be honest with you.

CALLER: Yeah?

CLINIC: You are really under the age of what’s legal for him to be having any kind of relationship with.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? If you’re under the age of 16, it’s considered an illegal act on his part.

CALLER: What would happen to him?

CLINIC: He could go to jail.

CALLER: What? But — what can I do?

CLINIC: Do you have anybody that you can talk to?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Do you live with your parents?

CALLER: Yeah, but they absolutely hate him. Like they don’t understand anything.

CLINIC: Where do you go to school?

CALLER: I’m home-schooled.

CLINIC: Why are you home-schooled? Just their choice, or —

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: So you have no — do you have any contact with a guidance counselor or anybody at the local school?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Where do you live?

CALLER: I live in Oldwick.

CLINIC: Where?

CALLER: Oldwick.

CLINIC: Oh, Oldwick.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Do you have a church that you go to or anyone there?

CALLER: Well, we just moved here. We don’t really have like a normal church that we go to.

CLINIC: Where did you move from?

CALLER: We moved from Texas.

CLINIC: I see. Well, I think you need to come in and talk to somebody.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Do you have a friend that could bring you?

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend will bring me.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, I think you definitely need to come in and talk to someone.

CALLER: Would they tell anybody? They wouldn’t tell on us, would they?

CLINIC: Well, they can’t — how long have you known this person?

CALLER: For like a year.

CLINIC: And he goes to school, or he works?

CALLER: He’s got a job.

CLINIC: He’s got a job. Okay. Well, like I said, you really need to go and talk to someone.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: How far along are you? Do you have any idea?

CALLER: I don’t know exactly. I took a pregnancy test over the weekend. It said it was positive.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, why don’t you just come in and have the pregnancy test first.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: We’ll start there, and then we’ll figure out what to do from there. Okay? You can walk in anytime for a pregnancy test, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: They’re only going to — if you don’t give his name, no one will ever know who he is.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: So like I wouldn’t have to tell anybody, and no one will find out?

CLINIC: Well, not unless you told them.

CALLER: Okay. If, like, I ended up not being pregnant, would you guys provide birth control?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: Yeah?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about that either?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: No?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Is it all right if I call you back like if my boyfriend has any questions or whatever?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: What was your name.

CLINIC: Well, my name is Ann. But you don’t have to talk — you can talk to whoever is here.

CALLER: Okay. Well, all right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

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#049 – Planned Parenthood in Pompton Lakes, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
750 HAMBURG TPKE
POMPTON LAKES, NJ 7442-1452
973-839-2363

TAPE – 049

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering, do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t. We confirm the pregnancy, and we can give you a referral.

CALLER: Okay. What do you need to do to confirm the pregnancy?

CLINIC: You need an appointment. You come in, pee in a cup. We do some paperwork. You’re on your way.

CALLER: Okay. Can I ask a couple of questions?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: My friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: Well, we don’t perform them here.

CALLER: Okay. But do my parents have to know or anything?

CLINIC: I’m not sure. You would have to ask at where we refer you, at the termination facility.

CALLER: It’s just they can’t find out at all. Like, if they knew that — my boyfriend’s 22, and we’re planning on getting married. But my parents can’t stand him because they think he’s too old.

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 in March. But if they found out we were having sex, they would be furious.

CLINIC: Actually, that’s considered statutory rape. You’re 14 and he’s 22.

CALLER: Well, what can I do?

CLINIC: You need to come in and let us evaluate you.

CALLER: Okay. Would you guys have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Here? No. We don’t tell anybody anything.

CALLER: What if it turns out that I’m not pregnant after you guys do the test or whatever?

CLINIC: We would suggest you come back, become a patient with us, get you on some birth control.

CALLER: Would you guys have to tell anybody about birth control at all?

CLINIC: No. The thing is, you shouldn’t be with somebody who’s 22, not at the age of 14.

CALLER: Well, he loves me. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Let me tell you something. I’ve been there, done that. I had my first child at the age of 14, and I was married before I got pregnant. But the guy was only three years older than me. Twenty-two and 14, he’s taking advantage of you. I don’t care what he tells you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But we need to talk to you more. Don’t worry. We cannot talk to your parents without your consent.

CALLER: Okay. Would you have to talk to anybody at all, like besides my parents or anything?

CLINIC: I want to talk to you.

CALLER: Would he get in trouble or anything?

CLINIC: Not by me.

CALLER: Okay. Can I call you back?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Debbie.

CALLER: Debbie?

CLINIC: I’m the nurse here.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Okay. Bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#060 – Planned Parenthood in Beverly, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
2224 ROUTE 130 # A10
BEVERLY, NJ 8010
609-871-4220

TAPE – 060

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. Well, do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: No? Do you know of any place that I could talk to or call?

CLINIC: No. You can just look in the phone book. We don’t give that information over the phone though.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Is it all right if I ask you a question real quick?

CLINIC: We don’t give any information about abortion over the phone, at all.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, like, I’m just really worried. My friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: We don’t do abortions, hon. You’d have to ask whoever you called. Okay?

CALLER: Oh. All right. Well, do you guys do like birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Yeah? Do you have to tell my parents about that?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you have to be a certain age for that?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Because I’ll be 14 months in March. And that’s all right and everything?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: And you guys wouldn’t tell my parents or anybody at all? Because my boyfriend’s 22, and we’re going to get married. But they don’t like him because they think he’s too old for me.

CLINIC: Well, he probably is. But we don’t do that here. You can come in. You can go on birth control. But we don’t do the termination, so you’d have to do that on your own.

CALLER: Oh, all right. But if I was doing birth control, you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. You called yesterday in Camden. I talked to you yesterday.

CALLER: Oh, okay. I’m sorry.

CLINIC: Everything is confidential at Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#050 – Planned Parenthood in Paterson, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
171 MARKET ST
PATERSON, NJ 7505-1701
973-345-3883

TAPE – 050

CLINIC: Good afternoon, Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering, do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: No? Do you know of anyplace that I could call?

CLINIC: Hold on.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Hillegrand (ph) or either Metropolitan.

CALLER: Well, I — Metropolitan, I guess.

CLINIC: Um-hmm. That’s up in Englewood.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So you can go there and have it done. But they don’t do it here.

CALLER: Okay. Do you have the number for that?

CLINIC: Also Barnet (sp) Clinic does it too.

CALLER: Okay. So you do you not have a phone number?

CLINIC: Barnet is 684-6867.

CALLER: Okay. Can I ask you a question?

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Well, my friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: I don’t know. How old are you?

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 in March.

CLINIC: That — I haven’t heard anything about that. You shouldn’t even — I can’t give you yes; I can’t give you no. Hold on.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Hello? Can I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. I was talking to someone. But I just wanted to ask some questions.

CLINIC: About?

CALLER: Like, I was telling her that my friend told me that I have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Um, hold on.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Hello?

CALLER: Yeah?

CLINIC: Okay. It depends where you go —

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: — if they require to tell your parents or not.

CALLER: Okay. Like, why?

CLINIC: I’m sorry?

CALLER: Why does it matter?

CLINIC: I don’t know. It depends on the rules over the facility you’re going to.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just that I can’t tell my parents at all.

CLINIC: Okay. You know where you can go? You can go to Women’s Health in Barnet Hospital.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And they refer you to a doctor from there. Or you can go — you can go to Metropolitan in Hackensack.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And I know a doctor, Ramine Cocazello (ph), that does that too.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But you’ll have to pay for anesthesiology, and you have to pay for him too.

CALLER: But they wouldn’t have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay. Because if they found out I was having sex with my boyfriend, they would flip out. They absolutely hate him, because he’s 22. They think he’s too old for me.

CLINIC: Yeah, well it depends on the rules of the facility you go to.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You want the number for Women’s Health in Barnet?

CALLER: Yes, please.

CLINIC: 973-977-6867.

CALLER: 973-977-6867?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Well, you’re sure no one has to know?

CLINIC: Well, you can ask there.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: That depends on the rule. I told you. I don’t know how they work.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it ends up that I’m not pregnant, do you guys do birth control?

CLINIC: Yeah, we do.

CALLER: And you guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody about that either?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Not at all?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Could I call you back?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Jamie.

CALLER: Jamie?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: All right. Thank you.

CLINIC: You’re welcome. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.
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#061 – Planned Parenthood in Camden, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
317 S. BROADWAY
CAMDEN, NJ 8103-1253
856-365-3519

TAPE – 061

RECORDING: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood. To hear this information in Spanish, please press 1. If you know your party’s extension, please enter it now. For pregnancy testing information, press 5. For general information and appointments, including family planing, prenatal and other medical services, press 4.

Please hold while I try that extension.

CLINIC: Reception Desk?

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: No? Do you know who I would talk to?

CLINIC: What you could do is come in here for a pregnancy test, and we do a pregnancy test. And then if it’s positive, we would give you referrals.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, is there anyway that — my friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: I think from the state of New Jersey parental notification isn’t necessary.

CALLER: It’s not?

CLINIC: Not to my knowledge. But, like I said, I’d rather you come in and get a pregnancy test done, and then we would give you a referral and talk to you.

CALLER: Well, they can’t find out at all. Because my boyfriend’s 22 —

CLINIC: Well, we’re not going to call your parents and tell them.

CALLER: Yeah?

CLINIC: No. We don’t do that.

CALLER: Because if they found out –

CLINIC: We’re not going to do that.

CALLER: — they hate him. They think he’s too old for me.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, we’re not going to do that.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So if you want, you can come in Monday or Wednesday morning. Have you ever been to our Camden office?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Have you ever been to any of our offices?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Where do you live?

CALLER: I live in Berlin.

CLINIC: In Berlin?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Do you know where Chesilhurst is?

CALLER: Well, I think my boyfriend does.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, you can go over there tomorrow morning at 10:00.

CALLER: Okay, well —

CLINIC: Oh, wait. No. Never mind, today’s Tuesday. So you can go there next Tuesday at 10:00.

CALLER: Oh, all right.

CLINIC: It’s a walk-in clinic.

CALLER: Do you have to be a certain age for that or anything?

CLINIC: No, honey.

CALLER: Okay. Because I’m going to be 14 in March, so it will be okay?

CLINIC: Are you sure that you’re pregnant?

CALLER: Well, I’ve — I think so, yeah. I had a pregnancy test over the weekend. Like I took one — I got one at the store.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, you can go in there next Tuesday at 10:00, and they’ll do a pregnancy test and give you referrals.

CALLER: Okay. Well, they won’t tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. We don’t do that.

CALLER: Okay. Okay. Well, if like I wasn’t pregnant, would they be able to give me birth control or anything?

CLINIC: We could set you up for an appointment for that, yes.

CALLER: Okay. And they wouldn’t tell anybody about birth control either?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right. Do you want the address where they’re at?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: It’s 1000 Industrial Drive in Chesilhurst.

CALLER: Cheselhurst.

CLINIC: And it’s right off of the White Horse Pike. Do you want directions now, or do you want to call back later?

CALLER: I’ll call back later. I have to talk to my boyfriend. Is it all right if I talk to you later?

CLINIC: I don’t know — well, we’re leaving here around 5:00, so you can call back tomorrow or the next day. My name is Becky.

CALLER: Becky?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All right. Thanks.

CALLER: Thanks.

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#051 – Planned Parenthood in Hackensack, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
575 MAIN ST. #1
HACKENSACK, NJ 7601-5987
201-489-1140

TAPE – 051

CLINIC: Good afternoon, Planned Parenthood. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. Do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t do that. We can refer you, but no, not the procedure here.

CALLER: Okay. Who would you refer me to?

CLINIC: The doctor. You have to see the doctor for the doctor to refer you.

CALLER: Oh. Okay. Do I need like an appointment for that?

CLINIC: Yes. You have to pay for that. It’s based on your income, yes.

CALLER: Okay. Well, can I ask a question then too?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Well, the biggest thing is that my friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can even go through having an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: Well, I didn’t understand what you say.

CALLER: Well, do you guys have to tell my parents if I’m having an abortion?

CLINIC: No, they can — you can come, but they say, no, nothing, because everything is confidential here.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just they can’t find out.

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay. Is there like an age limit or anything?

CLINIC: No. Only you need to make an appointment to see the doctor that also will refer you to someplace.

CALLER: Okay, so —

CLINIC: Okay. You want to make appointment?

CALLER: Well, I —

CLINIC: Or do you want to call again?

CALLER: Well, I just was really wanting to know, like — like the thing is, she also — my friend, she said that you guys have to know about my entire story. The problem is, my parents can’t find out about this because —

CLINIC: No, no, no. They won’t find out.

CALLER: My boyfriend’s 22. And we’re planning to get married, because we love each other. But my parents absolutely hate him, and they think he’s too old for me. And I’m only — I’ll be 14 in March. I don’t understand what the problem is.

CLINIC: Okay. Will be good idea that you come, make appointment. You want to wait for make appointment?

CALLER: Well, no one will find out about it?

CLINIC: You want to make appointment today or you want to call later for that?

CALLER: Well, yeah. I have to call my boyfriend and see.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. Okay.

CALLER: Can I talk to you later?

CLINIC: Oh, yes, of course, anytime.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Oh, you can talk with anybody here, okay?

CALLER: Well —

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: — can I just talk to you later?

CLINIC: I don’t think so. I be leaving now. I don’t think so, that I will be here. But you can just speak with everybody here, okay?

CALLER: Could I call you tomorrow?

CLINIC: Oh, yes, of course.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Dora.

CALLER: Dora?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Okay?

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: Bye bye.
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#062 – Planned Parenthood in Hightstown, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
268 ACADEMY ST
HIGHTSTOWN, NJ 8520-3803
609-448-3439

TAPE – 062

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood?

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Oh. Okay. Well, do you know of any place that does?

CLINIC: Yeah. Let me give you the number.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: 599-4881.

CALLER: 599-4881. Do you know — well, my friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: No?

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Well, the number to the place that I gave you won’t do it (unclear) you’re 14.

CALLER: Why?

CLINIC: It’s just a policy they have.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Where can I go then?

CLINIC: You can call — hold on a second, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

(Pause)

CLINIC: You can call 514-9191.

CALLER: 514-9191?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Okay. Will they have to tell my parents or anything?

CLINIC: I doubt it. You can ask them.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, it’s just they can’t tell my parents at all. Because like my boyfriend’ —

CLINIC: You need to talk to them about it.

CALLER: They can’t —

CLINIC: I don’t know what they’re going to say.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: You need to talk to them.

CALLER: Do you guys do like birth control there or anything?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Okay. Would you have to tell anybody about that?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay. Is it all right if my boyfriend comes and takes me?

CLINIC: And does what?

CALLER: If he takes me there?

CLINIC: I don’t see why that would be a problem.

CALLER: Okay. Well, like, he would pay for it all. Well, he’s got a job because he’s like 22. Is it all right if he brings me and pays for it?

CLINIC: Why would that be a problem?

CALLER: Well, I don’t know. I just don’t want anybody to know.

CLINIC: Well, I mean, it should be fine.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Is it all right if I talk to you later if I had any more questions?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Um —

CALLER: Because I just don’t know who else to talk to.

CLINIC: Just call back. Whoever answers the phone, they can answer questions for you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, you’re nice. And I just want to talk to you.

CLINIC: Just anybody — when you call in, anybody who picks up the phone can answer whatever question you have.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: All right. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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