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#064 – Planned Parenthood in Manville, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
203 S MAIN ST
MANVILLE, NJ 8835-1867
908-231-9230

TAPE – 064

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Barbara speaking.

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we do not.

CALLER: No? Do you know who I would talk — like call or —

CLINIC: You would have to become a patient here and see the doctor. Then you’d have to make your decision based on all the options.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You do options counseling. And if that’s what you decide to do, then you’re given names of different places, and you get to choose which one.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know if they would have to tell my parents before can have an abortion?

CLINIC: No, never. No.

CALLER: Never?

CLINIC: Never, no. There’s a law. No.

CALLER: Because there’s just no way they can find out.

CLINIC: That’s right. Only through you.

CALLER: Okay. They would be furious if they found out that me and my boyfriend were having sex. They think he’s too old for me. Is there any age requirement or anything to have an abortion?

CLINIC: What is it?

CALLER: Is there any age requirement to have an abortion?

CLINIC: Oh. No.

CALLER: No?

CLINIC: Uh-uh. It’s legal in this state.

CALLER: Okay. So I’m going to be 14 in March. Is that okay?

CLINIC: Yeah. You have a choice.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know — what if I wasn’t pregnant or anything?

CLINIC: What if you weren’t?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: So then you should get on birth control.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You would still need to see a doctor here and get a full exam.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? You can come in and take a pregnancy test anytime.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You can do that without an appointment.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: But if you want to go further than that, then you have to see the doctor.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, is it all right if my boyfriend brings me?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: Yeah?

CLINIC: That’s your choice.

CALLER: Does it cost anything for the —

CLINIC: Hmm?

CALLER: Does it cost anything for the exam or anything?

CLINIC: Yes, it does. But everything’s done on a sliding scale here. And if you’re a student, there’s a special rate. But, yes, there is a charge.

CALLER: What if like — my boyfriend’s the one that’s going to be paying for it, and he’s an honor student. Like, he’s already graduated.

CLINIC: Well, that — no, he’d be paying for you though.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Everything’s based on you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And if you had a full exam or everything, it would probably be about $60. But if you just come in for the pregnancy test, about $8 or $10.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my other question is, my friend told me that you guys have to know all about my boyfriend before I can get anything done.

CLINIC: There’s nothing we have to know to about him.

CALLER: She said that you guys have to know that he’s like 22 and stuff.

CLINIC: That’s none of our concern.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Really.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: No. This whole thing is based on you, and you alone– your history, your life, your decision.

CALLER: All right. So no one has to be told anything?

CLINIC: No. What he finds out is from you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: No, we won’t discuss it with him.

CALLER: You won’t tell anybody at all?

CLINIC: Um-um.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if like after the pregnancy test there, if I’m not pregnant, and I can have birth control?

CLINIC: Yeah, sure. We’ll discuss that with you. You’ll get counseling here from the nurses.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Is it all right if I call you back after I talk to him?

CLINIC: Yes, you can.

CALLER: To see if he has any questions or anything.

CLINIC: If you can, come in tomorrow, and we’ll do a pregnancy test. And we’ll counsel you then too.

CALLER: Okay. Could I call you back today or anything?

CLINIC: Yes, you can.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Well, I’m Barbara. And I’m going to be busy probably with the doctor. We have a clinic.

CALLER: Oh, all right.

CLINIC: So one of the nurses, somebody will pick up.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: All right. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#054 – Planned Parenthood in Freehold, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
800 W. MAIN ST.
FREEHOLD, NJ 7728-2554
732-431-1717

TAPE – 054

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. May I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: We don’t. We do pregnancy testing, and then we can refer you out.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I actually have a couple of questions. Like, do you know if my parents have to find out before I can have an abortion?

CLINIC: Not at this time.

CALLER: Not at this time?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: All right. Well, the problem is that my parents can’t find out at all. Because like, well, my boyfriend’s 22, and they just absolutely hate him because they think he’s too old for me. But there’s just no way that they can find out we’re having sex at all.

CLINIC: Okay. Just so long as you don’t use insurance then usually there’s not a way for people to find out.

CALLER: Okay. Well, he’s going to pay for everything.

CLINIC: Okay. Do you want to make an appointment for a pregnancy test?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Hello?

CALLER: Yeah?

CLINIC: Okay. Are you coming here for first time?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. Can I have your last name?

CALLER: It’s Smith.

CLINIC: Smith?

CALLER: Yep.

CLINIC: First name?

CALLER: Is Christine.

CLINIC: Can I have your zip code?

CALLER: Um —

CLINIC: Your date of birth is when?

CALLER: It’s March 19, 1988.

CLINIC: 9/15/80? No?

CALLER: What? It’s March 19, 1988.

CLINIC: Zip code, please?

CALLER: Well, I don’t — do you really need that?

CLINIC: This information is highly confidential, but we’re going to need some — we’re going to need your phone number, we’re going to need the name of your guardian.

CALLER: Oh, whoa.

CLINIC: I don’t have to take this information right now, but when you come in, we’re going to need some information from you. Are you a student?

CALLER: Well, yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. Can I have your phone number?

CALLER: Well, I’m at my friend’s house. I don’t —

CLINIC: We need your phone number. We would never call and say that we’re from here, but we need your — we need a number.

CALLER: Why do you need it?

CLINIC: Excuse me?

CALLER: Why do you need the phone number?

CLINIC: Suppose we need to cancel the appointment for whatever reason? We’re not going to call and say that we’re from Planned Parenthood. We’re not going to call and say we’re from Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Like, there’s no way — my mom always answer the phone.

CLINIC: We have a name that we call, and we say — I cannot give you all the information over the phone. But when we need to call the patient, we have something that we say, and they’ll know who it is. We will explain to you this when you come in.

CALLER: Okay. But you guys won’t tell anybody at all?

CLINIC: No. It’s confidential.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Say like I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: And you wouldn’t tell anybody about that either?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: It’s totally confidential.

CALLER: Okay. Well, can I call you back after I talk to my boyfriend?

CLINIC: Sure. You want to call back?

CALLER: Yeah. Well, can I talk to you when I call back?

CLINIC: Okay. You can call back if you want. I know you can call me with a number that I can reach you if I need to.

CALLER: Okay. Well, what was your name?

CLINIC: Excuse me?

CALLER: What’s your name?

CLINIC: I’m the one who picked up the phone. Chris.

CALLER: Chris?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye.

CALLER: Bye.
***END***

#065 – Planned Parenthood in Perth Amboy, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
215 MARKET ST.
PERTH AMBOY, NJ 8861-4330
732-442-4499
732-842-9300

TAPE – 065

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: We don’t do them here. Our main clinic does. Do you want their number?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay, it’s 732-842-9300.

CALLER: 9300?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Okay. Can I ask you a couple questions?

CLINIC: Go ahead.

CALLER: Well, like my friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: That’s false.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: We don’t have to tell your parents anything.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: We don’t tell your parents anything.

CALLER: Okay. Because if they found out –

CLINIC: Everything is confidential.

CALLER: Yeah. If they found out I would be in big trouble. They can’t stand my boyfriend.

CLINIC: To us it’s like none of their business, you know what I mean? (laughs)

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: That’s why you come to us. You know what I mean?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Because minors have rights here. And we don’t inform your parents of anything.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay, hon?

CALLER: Well, yeah. All right.

CLINIC: You can call them and — well, where do you live?

CALLER: Well, I live in Middletown.

CLINIC: Okay. Maybe, Spotswood is probably closer for you. Maybe you need to go in for a pregnancy test because you know you’re pregnant already?

CALLER: Well, I took a pregnancy test over the weekend, and –

CLINIC: It came out positive?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. The only way we can like give you a referral to go somewhere, you have to come into our clinic and get a pregnancy test. We have to confirm it and then we counsel you and give you a referral.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You can call Spotswood. Spotswood is close to you, right?

CALLER: Well, I don’t know.

CLINIC: Yeah, because you live in Middletown, yeah. I think it’s closer to you. You know where Perth Amboy is?

CALLER: Huh?

CLINIC: We’re in Perth Amboy. You know where we are?

CALLER: Yeah. Well, my boyfriend knows.

CLINIC: Okay. Do you just want to make an appointment for a pregnancy test?

CALLER: Well, I don’t know. They don’t have to tell anybody, right?

CLINIC: I’m sorry?

CALLER: They don’t have to tell anybody, right?

CLINIC: No. We won’t tell anybody.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: This is your business.

CALLER: Even like is there an age requirement or anything?

CLINIC: There’s no age requirement.

CALLER: Okay. So it’s all right if like — like I’m going to be 14 in March.

CLINIC: It don’t matter.

CALLER: It doesn’t matter?

CLINIC: No, hon.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: My friend also told me that you guys have to know that, how old my boyfriend is.

CLINIC: We don’t have to know any information about your boyfriend. Whoever’s giving you this information is misinforming you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? So you did the right thing by calling here.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: We give you the accurate information. Don’t listen to your friends because they’re giving you misinformation, okay?

CALLER: Well, she said that –

CLINIC: We don’t have to know anything about your boyfriend.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? You need to come in as a patient. Come in for a pregnancy test. We’ll — if you are pregnant we’ll confirm it, and then the nurse will counsel you and refer you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay, hon?

CALLER: Well, like — all right.

CLINIC: Go ahead.

CALLER: If like he — he said that we should look into birth control. Like –

CLINIC: Yes, maybe you should.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: That’s definitely a good idea for you. If you’re sexually active you should be on some type of birth control. We supply that here too. So if you come in for pregnancy tests and you’re confirmed and — do you know what you would want to do? You want to avoid it?

CALLER: Well, I — yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. So after you do that you will come back in two weeks.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You know what I mean? Then you will get a whole GYN exam — pap smear and everything, and then we supply you three months worth of birth control pills. Because you’re a patient here we supply you with that. We put you on a student scale fee which is not that much, and then you just keep coming and receive your pills.

CALLER: Okay. Well, what if my boyfriend’s not — like he’s paying for it, and he’s 22. He’s not a student anymore.

CLINIC: That’s fine. We still put you on a sliding scale fee. You know what I mean? So you just give us his info — we give you the paperwork. You put his income down. That’s it.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? But if it’s easier for you to just keep it as a student fee, and that way he won’t be paying that much.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: So even if he’s not a student you just say he is, or what?

CLINIC: No. You don’t say anything about him. Information, everything on the paper you put about yourself. But in the income bracket you just put his income.

CALLER: And you guys don’t have to tell anybody or anything?

CLINIC: We don’t tell nobody nothing. Only thing that’s on your paper, we need a guardian.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You’ll need — not him. Not your boyfriend. Your mother. The only way we will call your mother is if you got hit by a car outside or something, you know what I mean? But she don’t have to know you was here. You know what I’m saying?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: We aren’t going to write letters to your house. We won’t call your house, nothing like that.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And if you couldn’t pay your whole balance we wouldn’t even bill you. We’d just run a balance so that the next time you come in to receive more pills, you pay on your balance from before and your current visit. That’s how we do it. You pay as you come or you pay as you can.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? So did you want to set up an appointment?

CALLER: Well, I’d have to call him to see when he can get off. Is there any way I can call you back?

CLINIC: Okay, because we — actually can’t even put you in until the 22nd. So the longer you wait the longer the appointment is going to be.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? So. We, actually tonight we close at 5:30, so that’s, if you can try to call before 5:30 so I can put you in for the 22nd.

CALLER: Okay. What was your name so I can –

CLINIC: My name is Wanda.

CALLER: Wanda?

CLINIC: Yep.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay, hon?

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

(phone clicks)

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#055 – Planned Parenthood in Hazlet, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1 BETHANY RD. # 01
HAZLET, NJ 7730-1669
732-888-4900

TAPE – 055

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: You’d have to come in for a pregnancy test and speak with a counselor.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, could I ask a couple of questions first?

CLINIC: Okay. Well, due to security reasons, I won’t be able to answer anything about that.

CALLER: It’s just that I need to know before I do anything.

CLINIC: No. You need to come in for the test. And then when you come in for the test, they’ll be able to discuss everything with you then.

CALLER: It’s just — I can’t — the problem is, I can’t tell my parents at all. My boyfriend’s 22. And we’re planning on getting married, but my parents can’t stand him because they think he’s too old for me. And if they found out that we were having sex, we would get in big trouble.

CLINIC: Okay. That’s no problem. We’re confidential. They don’t have to know.

CALLER: You wouldn’t have to tell anybody at all?

CLINIC: Nope.

CALLER: Okay. Well, is there like an age limit for an abortion of anything?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: So it’s all right if I’m like — I’m going to be 14 in March, so that’s still okay?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: If it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, would you guys be able to do birth control or anything?

CLINIC: Yep.

CALLER: Yeah? And still no one would have to know about that either?

CLINIC: Yep.

CALLER: Okay. So I have to come in to —

CLINIC: Yeah, you need to make an appointment. Hold on a second.

CALLER: All right.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Hold on.

CALLER: Okay.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Okay. I’m going to make you an appointment.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Could I get your name, last name first?

CALLER: Well, it’s Smith.

CLINIC: Smith?

CALLER: Uh-huh. And my first name is Christine.

CLINIC: With a “C”?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: What is your birthday?

CALLER: It’s March 19, 1988.

CLINIC: Phone number, cell phone, beeper?

CALLER: Well, is it all right if I — I have to talk to my boyfriend. Can I call you guys back?

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Well, is it okay if I talk to you. I just don’t want —

CLINIC: Let me just set up this appointment.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: What days are good for you?

CALLER: I don’t know. I’ve got to talk to my — well, I guess, maybe Friday.

CLINIC: Is he at school?

CALLER: Well, he’s at work.

CLINIC: Okay. Why don’t you call me back when you have a good time that the both of you can come. All right?

CALLER: Okay. What was your name?

CLINIC: Jackie.

CALLER: Jackie?

CLINIC: Yep.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: All right. Bye.

***END***

#066 – Planned Parenthood in Spotswood, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
12 SNOWHILL ST # 3
SPOTSWOOD, NJ 8884-1394
732-251-9649
732-723-9192

TAPE – 066

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: No? Do you know —

CLINIC: Not on this site. We just give you a referral somewhere to another Planned Parenthood, or we can give you a referral somewhere else– whatever suits you best. There’s like a whole explaining process on how each clinic works, and how they work, and how the anesthetic is done. So whatever you think is best for yourself.

So you would have to come in. Schedule an appointment first, come in, get a pregnancy test done. If it comes back positive, then we’ll give you a referral somewhere else. And we’ll counsel you on what you’re going to do and what you should do.

CALLER: Okay. Can I ask a few questions?

CLINIC: Excuse me?

CALLER: Can I ask you a question or two?

CLINIC: Yeah, you can ask me questions.

CALLER: Well, my main question is, like, my friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: No. That’s not true.

CALLER: No?

CLINIC: Everything that’s said and done here is confidential, and you do not need your parents’ consent to get an abortion.

CALLER: Oh, okay. It’s just that my parents can’t find out at all because my boyfriend’s 22. And we want to get married, but they hate him because he’s just so old. Well, they just think he’s old.

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: Like, I don’t understand why they — but I’m going to be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. You think what’s best for you. Whatever you want to do. You can either call and make an appointment with us, and we’ll schedule you to get a pregnancy test done here.

CALLER: Okay. And nobody would have to know?

CLINIC: Nobody knows, honey. Nobody has to know.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: And will you go to get the abortion done, you can go with a friend, or even with him you can go.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Yeah. You have rights here, like everybody else. Everything that’s done here, we don’t need your parents’ consent.

CALLER: Okay. Like if it ends up that I’m not pregnant or whatever —

CLINIC: You can get on birth control.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: No one would have to know about that either?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Do you want to set an appointment?

CALLER: Well, is it all right if I call my boyfriend, and then call you back?

CLINIC: Okay. Call your boyfriend, discuss it with him, and then call me back.

CALLER: Okay. What was your name?

CLINIC: Ask for Demaris (sp).

CALLER: Huh?

CLINIC: Ask for Demaris.

CALLER: Demaris?

CLINIC: Yes, Demaris.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay, sweetie?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Okay. Bye bye.

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#045 – Planned Parenthood in East Orange, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
606 CENTRAL AVE
EAST ORANGE, NJ 7018-1936
973-674-4343

TAPE – 045

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah, I just called. I was wondering, do you guys — I got disconnected. But do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t do abortions here.

CALLER: No? Okay. Do you know of any place I could go?

CLINIC: Call Newark Mini Surgery site. Call information and get their number. They can give you more information on that.

CALLER: Okay. So you don’t have the number or anything?

CLINIC: No, I don’t have it.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Can I ask you a question?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Well, my friend told me you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion.

CLINIC: Do you have to tell your parents?

CALLER: Yeah. Do I?

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 in March.

CLINIC: You’re going to be 14. I don’t know. Call Newark Mini Surgery, because I don’t know. Maybe you need an adult supervision. It don’t necessarily have to be your parent.

CALLER: Oh, it’s just —

CLINIC: But just call them just to make sure because I’m not sure on that. Okay?

CALLER: My parents can’t know at all.

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: My boyfriend’s 22. And we’re planning on getting married, but —

CLINIC: Who? Your boyfriend?k

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Well, just ask him to go in with you.

CALLER: I mean, they just absolutely hate him. They think he’s too old for me.

CLINIC: No. Just ask him to go in with you; that way your parents don’t have to know. But you probably have to pay if you’re not on Medicaid.

CALLER: Okay. Well, he would pay. He would take care of everything.

CLINIC: Yeah. Just ask him to go in with you.

CALLER: And nobody would have to find out?

CLINIC: No, just them know. Nobody will find out.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Just call information and get the number to Newark Mini Surgery site, in Newark on Roosevelt Avenue.

CALLER: If I wasn’t pregnant — of it turns out that I’m not pregnant, is there any way that I could get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: Yeah, sure. Do you want to come in here for a PT first then go for your abortion, or —

CALLER: I guess.

CLINIC: Do you know that you’re pregnant right now?

CALLER: Well, I took a pregnancy test over the weekend, and it came out positive. But —

CLINIC: Oh, okay.

CALLER: — I’m not sure if it’s right or whatever.

CLINIC: It’s up to you if you want to come here and to the PT, take a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: That’s up to you.

CALLER: I’d have to talk to my boyfriend. But can I call you back?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Tamica (sp).

CALLER: Tamica?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: All right. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#056 – Planned Parenthood in Long Branch, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
270 BROADWAY
LONG BRANCH, NJ 7740-7027
732-571-6889

TAPE – 056

RECORDING: The number you have dialed, 732-571-6889 has been disconnected. No further information is available.

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#083 – Planned Parenthood in Trenton, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
437 E. STATE ST.
TRENTON, NJ 8608-1597
609-599-4881

TAPE – 083

(Dialing, phone ringing)

RECORDING: Good morning. You have reached Planned Parenthood in Trenton. To continue in English, please press 1.

Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood. If you know your party’s extension, you may dial it at any time. If you do not know your party’s extension, please dial 411. Please listen to the next series of choices and make a selection.

For pregnancy test hours and instructions, press 1. For birth control supply hours, press 2. For information about emergency contraception, press 3. To make a clinic appointment or ask about our walk-in hours, press 4. To speak with someone in administration, public affairs or the finance department, press 5. To speak with someone in fundraising, press 6. To speak with someone about community education —

Please hold. I’m transferring you know.

CLINIC: Good morning, Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering. Do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do. You have to have had a positive pregnancy test. You have to be between 7 and 12 weeks pregnant. It’s anywhere from 350 to $450. And we only put people under our local anesthesia, which means that you are awake during the procedure. There’s two appointments. First is your health history appointment over the phone, and that person will schedule you for the appointment for the abortion.

CALLER: Okay. Do you know if they have to tell my parents or anything?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: No? It’s just I can’t tell my parents because my boyfriend’s 22. And we’re planning on getting married, but my parents don’t like him because they think he’s too old for me.

CLINIC: Fine. Everything here is confidential.

CALLER: You don’t think he’s too old for me or anything?

CLINIC: That’s not my place to say anything.

CALLER: Oh, all right.

CLINIC: But as far as patients having abortions here, we’re not permitted to give out any information to anybody.

CALLER: Do know if there’s like an age limit for having an abortion?

CLINIC: No. How old are you?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: All right. Well, you’re too young for here. Because as far as we consider, patients that are 14 or younger, we send them to a place to be put to sleep because it’s a local anesthesia. And we don’t think that’s a good idea for patients that young.

CALLER: Other people won’t tell?

CLINIC: No one should tell. I can give you a phone number for Princeton Women’s Center. That’s on Route 1 in Princeton. And they put patients to sleep. Do you want that phone number?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on, please.

(Pause)

CLINIC: That phone number is 609-514-9191.

CALLER: All right. If it turns out that I’m not pregnant, is it okay if I come to you guys for birth control or anything?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: Yeah? And you still wouldn’t have to tell anybody about that?

CLINIC: No. We’re not permitted to.

CALLER: Is it cool if I talk to you later?

CLINIC: If you want to talk to someone about — what do you want to talk to us about, your different options and things like that?

CALLER: Well, if my boyfriend has questions, is it okay if I talk to you later?

CLINIC: Well, we have a community services department. And we have counselors there, and they can talk to you.

CALLER: But I like you. You’re nice.

CLINIC: They’re much nicer than me.

CALLER: But you’re nice.

CLINIC: I know. But that’s what they’re here for. Okay? They’re here to talk to you about sexuality and preventive measures.

CALLER: But I really don’t want to talk to a whole bunch of people.

CLINIC: They’ll just give you one person to talk to. They’re educators, and that’s why they’re here. So if you wanted to talk to someone, you should — if you want to call back, you should call community services. Call the same number you called and ask for community services. And I think you should ask for Violet Sawyer.

CALLER: Violet?

CLINIC: Yes. She runs that department. And she’d be able to give you either someone in that department or she would talk to you.

CALLER: Okay. Could you switch me to her right now?

CLINIC: I’ll see if she’s available. I’m not sure she’s in today. Hold on, please. Let me check.

CALLER: Okay.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Okay, I’m sorry. I didn’t get your name.

CALLER: I’m Christine.

CLINIC: Christine, I’m going to give you to Michele. And she’s in community services. And I gave her a little bit of information that you gave me, and she’ll be able to talk to you. So hang on.

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Hi, Christine.

CALLER: Hi.

CLINIC: My name is Michele Giagano (ph) and I’m one of the pregnancy option counselors here.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You were speaking to a woman named Sharon. She gave me a little bit of background information, that you were currently pregnant, and you were having difficulties coming to a choice.

CALLER: Yeah. Me and my boyfriend talked about it, and we’re wanting to get an abortion.

CLINIC: Okay. So you had made your choice.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: So what was the reasoning behind the call?

CALLER: My friend told me that you guys have to tell about me and my boyfriend, and my parents have to find out and everything. And they can’t find out.

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Okay. We don’t notify the parents.

CALLER: She said that you guys would have to find out that he’s 22 —

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: — and they would have to tell my parents.

CLINIC: No. That’s not true.

CALLER: Okay. They wouldn’t have to tell anybody at all?

CLINIC: No. As long as you had the financial ability to provide yourself —

CALLER: Yeah, he said he would pay cash for it.

CLINIC: They’re not going to notify your parents. That’s a Planned Parenthood thing. We don’t need parental consent, and we don’t notify anybody. We just communicate with the person who’s getting the services.

So if you wanted to call and schedule that, you can call on Friday between 9 and 12.

CALLER: Is it cool if I call you back?

CLINIC: Yeah. I mean, it’s not me. The person that you’d be calling to schedule the termination, her name is Julie. So you can call then and tell her that you want to schedule the termination of the pregnancy. And then she’ll ask you some questions, a little bit of a pre-screening they do. It’s just kind of to know about you and whether or not you would be a fit for here. And if not, they will refer you somewhere else.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? You have our number, right?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay, great. Thanks.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye.

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#046 – Planned Parenthood in Montclair, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
29 N FULLERTON AVE
MONTCLAIR, NJ 7042-3412
973-746-7116

TAPE – 046

CLINIC: Good afternoon, Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering, do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: No? Do you know of anyone that does?

CLINIC: I can give you Pilgrim’s (sp) phone number if you want to?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: That’s 973-746-1500.

CALLER: Okay. Could I ask a quick question?

CLINIC: That’s Pilgrim. That’s Pilgrim Medical.

CALLER: So you can’t answer any questions or anything?

CLINIC: Pertaining to?

CALLER: Well, it’s just my friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents before I can have an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: No, because you’re not coming here. You have to find out with them.

CALLER: Okay. So you don’t know?

CLINIC: No. You have to call them. They have their own rules.

CALLER: They have their own rules?

CLINIC: Yes. You have to call them, find out with them. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. If I was to get birth control —

CLINIC: First you have to go there. And after you go there, you make an appointment with us. All right?

CALLER: You guys don’t do birth control there either?

CLINIC: Yes, we do. But you have to go there and first then come here. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Even if like I’m not pregnant.

CLINIC: Do you need a pregnancy test?

CALLER: Yeah, I did one like –

CLINIC: I don’t understand your question. If you’re going for a termination, call the number that I gave you.

CALLER: Okay. But what if I wasn’t pregnant?

CLINIC: Afterwards, if you’re not — didn’t you say you had a pregnancy test done?

CALLER: Well, I did a home pregnancy test —

CLINIC: And?

CALLER: — but I didn’t know if I did it right or anything.

CLINIC: Well, I’m sorry. I won’t be able to help you there. But if you need a pregnancy test, you need to come tomorrow from 1:00 to 3:00.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right? Okay.

CALLER: So if I’m not pregnant, would I be able to go in there?

CLINIC: Listen to what I’m saying. Listen to what I’m saying. Okay? If you need a pregnancy test, come tomorrow from 1:00 to 3:00. Let’s do that first. After that, you decide if you’re pregnant, what you’re going to do; if you’re not, what you’re going to do. Okay?

CALLER: So if I’m not —

CLINIC: You have to wait for your pregnancy test result. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. But like if I’m not —

CLINIC: Hold on. What else do you need to know?

CALLER: Well, my problem is I can’t tell my parents about this.

CLINIC: Listen?

CALLER: Yeah? I just need someone to talk to.

CLINIC: Okay. Tomorrow you come from 1:00 to 3:00, and you get a pregnancy test. A person that takes you in will give you all the information you need.

CALLER: Do you have to be a certain age for that or anything?

CLINIC: No, no. Sexually active. Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay, bye.

Hold on. I’m going to get you someone else. Hold on.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Yes? May I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. I was just wanting to ask some questions. I’m just needing to talk to someone.

CLINIC: Okay. Ask the questions.

CALLER: I was told that my parents have to know if I want an abortion. Is that true?

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Oh, yeah.

CALLER: They do have to know?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Is there any way, because I can’t tell them.

CLINIC: Well, you’re calling the wrong place. You have to call the abortion center and find out there rules, because we don’t do abortions, so we don’t know their rules.

CALLER: Well, if I wasn’t pregnant or whatever, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, you could, if you’re not pregnant.

CALLER: And you guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody at all?

CLINIC: No. For what?

CALLER: My friend said that I have to tell you guys about my boyfriend and everything before I can —

CLINIC: Look, let me tell you. Disregard what your friends say. All you have to do is come in and get a pregnancy test. If you’re not pregnant, we give you birth control. If you’re pregnant, we send you to the abortion clinic. Okay?

CALLER: He’s 22 and —

CLINIC: It doesn’t matter how old he is.

CALLER: It doesn’t matter at all?

CLINIC: It matters because you don’t want your parents to find out because they can have him arrested.

CALLER: What?

CLINIC: Yeah. You want be 14 until March?

CALLER: Right.

CLINIC: And he’s 22?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: They can have him arrested?

CALLER: Why? What would happen?

CLINIC: Because he is a grown-up; you’re a minor.

CALLER: What could happen to him?

CLINIC: They will put him in jail for statutory rape.

CALLER: What can I do?

CLINIC: Nothing.

CALLER: Nothing?

CLINIC: Uh-uh. Because first of all, if you’re 13, you shouldn’t have a 22-year-old boyfriend.

CALLER: But we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Well then your parents must know he’s 22, right?

CALLER: Well, that’s why they don’t like him.

CLINIC: Well, I can’t help you with that. That’s up to them, but I’m telling you.

CALLER: Do you have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. We don’t have to tell anybody. Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Now, if you want a pregnancy test, just come in between 1 and 3 tomorrow, and we will give you one. Okay?

CALLER: Can I call you back?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Maria.

CALLER: Maria?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay. Bye bye.

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#057 – Planned Parenthood in Dover, NJ

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
30 N MORRIS ST.
DOVER, NJ 7801-3910
973-361-6006

TAPE – 057

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood, Dover. Brenda speaking. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering, do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: No? Do you know anyone that, like, would or anything?

CLINIC: You’d have to be a patient here to get the information. We have to be the one to do your pregnancy test and so forth in order to give you a referral.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how do I — what do I need to do?

CLINIC: You have to have a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: If the test is positive, then you have to have a doctor’s appointment for a complete gynecological check-up with a pap smear to determine how pregnant you are. Then we can make a referral.

CALLER: All right. What do I need to do?

CLINIC: Have you missed a period?

CALLER: Well, yeah, like —

CLINIC: Are you more than 14 days late?

CALLER: Well, I think so.

CLINIC: Okay. Once you’ve missed a period and you’re 14 days late, you can come at anytime that we’re open, which is Monday through Saturday. We open at 9:00. Tuesday and Friday we close at 4:00.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Monday, Wednesday and Thursday we close at 7:00, and Saturday at 3:00.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You can just walk in anytime. We’ll do a pregnancy test. And if it turns out positive, then we’ll make you an appointment to come in and see the doctor.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: What if I — I did do a pregnancy test like last weekend.

CLINIC: You have to do a professional test. We have to do the test to establish it’s —

CALLER: Okay. Do you have to be like — do you guys have to tell my parents or anything?

CLINIC: No. How old are you?

CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: No. You can come in and get a test.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: And nobody would have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. Of course, in order for you to get the termination, I mean, you may need some money. And that may be that you’d have to talk to your parents about it or talk to somebody that can help you pay for it.

CALLER: Oh, well, my boyfriend will pay for that.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: It’s just my parents can’t know at all. He’s 22. And we’re plan on getting married, but they can’t stand him because they think he’s too old for me. But they just can’t find out that we’re having sex.

CLINIC: Oh, okay.

CALLER: I would get in big trouble.

CLINIC: Okay. So then just come in, and we’ll do the test, and see what we have to do after that, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: If you guys did the test and I wasn’t pregnant, would there be any way to get birth control?

CLINIC: Yep.

CALLER: Yeah? Would you guys have to tell anybody about that at all?

CLINIC: No. You just have to make an appointment to come in to see the doctor. The doctor will examine you, and then give you a method of birth control.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Well, can I call you guys back later today or —

CLINIC: Well, you can just come in. You don’t need an appointment to come in for the pregnancy test.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: So you just come in for that. And once that’s done, then we can make arrangements, appointments to come back for the rest of the stuff.

CALLER: Well, I need to talk to my boyfriend. But if he has questions, can I talk to you later?

CLINIC: Yeah, sure. Well, today is Tuesday. So we’re only here until 4:00.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: So tomorrow would be the best day because we’re here from 9:00 in the morning until 7:00 at night.

CALLER: Okay. Well, what was your name so I can ask you.

CLINIC: My name is Brenda. I may or may not be here. But any of the girls will help you as well.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Okay. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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