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#319 – Planned Parenthood in Wyoming, MI

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
3641 BYRON CENTER AVE SW
WYOMING, MI 49509-3665
616-531-3070

TAPE – 319

(dialing sounds) (ringing 4X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Cathy. Can I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. Did I just talk to you?

CLINIC: I’m not sure. What is it about?

CALLER: Well, I was wondering if you guys do abortions.

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, do you guys — is this the one on Jerry Street?

CLINIC: No, it’s not.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Jerry Street doesn’t do them either.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: We can give you a number that does.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: It’s called Heritage Clinic, and the number is 458-3694.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, could I ask you a real quick question?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Like, well I’m just worried because like my friend told me that — like I’ll be 14 in March, and she said that my parents would have to sign some stuff. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he sign whatever it is?

CLINIC: Probably not. You need parental consent.

CALLER: Oh. Is there any way not to tell them?

CLINIC: Not in the state of Michigan.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Okay. Well, like — so is it okay like to get a — like I”m not really sure if I am pregnant, but could I come into there to get a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Yeah. You’d have to make an appointment.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And if you can be here at 4:15 I can get you in today.

CALLER: Well, I’d have to call my boyfriend to see when he can bring me, but — I’m just scared because like my last period was like December 14. So.

CLINIC: Okay. Oh, yeah. Can you come Friday?

CALLER: I’d have to call and see if he can get off work, but what time on Friday?

CLINIC: I got an 11:15.

CALLER: Okay. We might be able to do that one.

CLINIC: Okay. Why don’t you call me back and let me know what day he has available, and we’ll try to go that way.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know if anybody has to know that I’m getting a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: What do you mean?

CALLER: Well, do you have to tell anybody that I’m getting a pregnancy test at all?

CLINIC: No. This is all confidential.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just my friend said you guys have to tell my parents, so.

CLINIC: No. No. If your parents even call we cannot — we can’t even tell them that you’re here, your name or you’re a client.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if the pregnancy test was negative, do you guys have birth control there?

CLINIC: Yep. Then you’d have to set up a separate appointment to come in for an exam.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Then they set you up on birth control.

CALLER: Well, how long does the exam take?

CLINIC: It takes — we leave an hour slot.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So anywhere from up to an hour.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Usually.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just, my boyfriend doesn’t want to go through all this again, so like would you guys have to tell anybody that I was getting birth control?

CLINIC: No. Everything is confidential. We don’t tell anybody anything.

CALLER: All right. Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

***THE END***

#292 – Planned Parenthood in Ionia, MI

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
175 E ADAMS ST
IONIA, MI 48846-1627
616-527-3340

TAPE – 292

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Gwen. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we do not.

CALLER: Do you know of any place that does?

CLINIC: You’ll have to check the Yellow Pages and your phone books.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay? Otherwise you can come down and we might be able to give you some information.

CALLER: Okay. Do you guys do pregnancy tests there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Do you guys have to tell my parents or anything about that? Like I’ll be 14 in March. Is that okay?

CLINIC: Yes. We do not tell your parents.

CALLER: Okay. Is it okay brings me?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Because I don’t know how else I would get there. Could he sign for me and everything, because he’s 22.

CLINIC: You can sign for yourself.

CALLER: Oh, okay. If I wasn’t pregnant, and the pregnancy test there showed that, would you guys be able to do birth control?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Would you be able to do it like right away.

CLINIC: Well, I’m not sure about tonight. Were you coming down for a pregnancy test tonight?

CALLER: No. My boyfriend would have to get off work and everything.

CLINIC: Well, let me let Carol make an appointment, okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Hang on.

CALLER: Okay.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Okay. We can do a pregnancy test. And then if you’re not, then we can do an exam. But if you’re pregnant, we can’t do an exam, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: I do have some openings this Thursday. Are you available then?

CALLER: I’d have to call my boyfriend and see, but I think so, maybe. But you don’t have to tell my parents or anything or anybody?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: I can tell you what I have open. I have openings from 1:30 to 3:45 or I have a 4:30 or 4:45 or a 5 open. And that’s on Thursday.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But you need to get back with me right away because they fill in, okay?

CALLER: Okay. What was your name again?

CLINIC: My name is Carol.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Yep. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#320 – Planned Parenthood in Traverse City, MI

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1135 E 8TH ST
TRAVERSE CITY, MI 49686-2936
231-929-1844

TAPE – 320

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Good afternoon. Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Do you know of anybody that might?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. We are now referring people to a local provider of only the medical kind of abortion, not surgical.

CALLER: Okay. What’s the difference?

CLINIC: Medical is actually a series of pills, medications that you take, and it’s overseen by the doctor. It’s more of a private way to do it. You take the pills. You’re at home, and you’re under the care of the doctor. She’s not with you, but she’s always in contact with you.

CALLER: Well, it’s just I’m scared because my last period was December 14th.

CLINIC: Have you had a pregnancy test?

CALLER: What?

CLINIC: Have you had a positive pregnancy test?

CALLER: Well, no.

CLINIC: Have you taken one yet?

CALLER: No. Do you guys do that there?

CLINIC: Yeah, we could do that for you. If you wanted to stop in we can do that on a walk-in basis anytime.

CALLER: Do you have to be a specific age for that? I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: No, that’s fine. You can stop in and do it. And it’s completely confidential.

CALLER: So if I was going to get an abortion, would they have to say anything to my parents? My friend said that my parents would have to sign some stuff, but my boyfriend’s 22. He is old enough to take care of that?

CLINIC: Probably — there are ways you can do it without letting your parents know.

CALLER: Oh, like how?

CLINIC: Yeah. It’s called a judicial bypass. And what we would do here is set you up with that information to obtain the judicial bypass. And it probably means a consultation with a local — I’m not real sure who it is. It’s a local person that we refer you to.

CALLER: Do I need a lawyer for that?

CLINIC: Yeah. But it’s right here. We can get all that stuff done for you right here.

CALLER: How much would that cost?

CLINIC: There wouldn’t be any fees for that. What is probably going to cost you is the pregnancy test. It’s $12 here.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: But that’s all.

CALLER: Is it all right if my boyfriend brings me to take the pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Oh, yeah. Yep, that’s fine.

CALLER: Would he have to sign any papers or anything? Because he just doesn’t want anybody to know.

CLINIC: No. No, he doesn’t have to. But you really should stop in. And just let me know at the front window right here that you want to take a walk-in pregnancy test, and we’ll get you started. We’re here until 6 today. If you’re interested in coming tomorrow, we’re here from 10 to 7.

CALLER: Could I come in there today?

CLINIC: Yeah. As long as you get here before 5:30.

CALLER: If the pregnancy test was negative, do you guys have birth control there?

CLINIC: You bet.

CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No, ma’am.

CALLER: All right. You’ve been so helpful. Thanks. If I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you?

CLINIC: You bet.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Kate.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And if I’m not here, Jen’s here, or there’s several other people that answer the phone here that can help you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#293 – Planned Parenthood in Kalamazoo, MI

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
4201 W. MICHIGAN AVE
KALAMAZOO, MI 49006-5833
616-372-1200

TAPE – 293

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Kalamazoo Planned Parenthood. This is Kiana (sp). Can you please hold?

CALLER: Yeah.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Thank you for holding. This is Grace. How may I direct your call?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wanting to ask someone if you guys do abortions.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: There’s a couple different methods. If you’re less than 14 weeks pregnant, it’s 370. If you wanted to have the medical procedure done, which is where you take medication home, that is 450.

CALLER: Okay. How do you know how far along you are?

CLINIC: You’d have to come in for a consultation where we do an ultra sound to determine how far along you are.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my friend told me that since I’ll be 14 in March that you have to get my parents to sign some stuff. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he sign it?

CLINIC: No. It would have to be your parent.

CALLER: Okay. Is there any way not to have to tell them? Because they can’t find out at all. I don’t know what they would do if they found out.

CLINIC: Let me put you through to a counselor. Just a moment, okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Thanks.

(Phone ringing 4x)

RECORDING: Hi. This is counseling. We’re not available to take your call right now. If you name, number and a brief message, we’ll get back to you as soon as possible. Thank you. (Beep).

(Call disconnected)

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood Kalamazoo. This is Marilyn.

CALLER: Yeah, can I talk to Grace?

CLINIC: Hold on a minute.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Thank you for holding. This is Grace.

CALLER: Yeah. You transferred me over and there wasn’t anyone there. They told me to leave a message.

CLINIC: Okay. Then you need to go ahead and leave a message because they’re with clients.

CALLER: But I can’t do that. I’m at my friend’s house —

CLINIC: You can try to give them a call back because they’re not available to take your call right this second.

CALLER: Well, could you answer some questions for me?

CLINIC: Honestly, I don’t know that much about it. All that’s handled through the counseling department.

CALLER: Could I come in for a pregnancy test or anything?

CLINIC: Yes. We have walk-in pregnancy testing from 5 to 7 tonight.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Does anyone have to know that I’m getting a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: We will need your name and everything, yes.

CALLER: Oh. Well, would you have to tell anybody that I was there?

CLINIC: No. Like would we tell your parents? No.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: My boyfriend’s going to bring me, so is that all right?

CLINIC: Yeah, that’s fine.

CALLER: Well, if I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys have birth control or anything?

CLINIC: Yep. They can talk to you about all that when they do the test for you, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: Do you know that if was on birth control if they would have to tell anybody that I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? Thank you.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#321 – Northern Michigan Planned Parenthood in Petoskey, MI

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NORTHERN MICHIGAN PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1003 SPRING ST
PETOSKEY, MI 49770-2810
231-347-9692

TAPE – 321

(Dialing, phone ringing 3x)

RECORDING: Thank you for calling Planned Parenthood of Northern Michigan. Please stay on the line to hear your menu of options.

To reach clinic receptionist Inga Spiegel (ph), press 10. To hear our hours of location, press 1. If you would like birth control pill information, press 2. If you would like information regarding emergency contraception often known as the “Morning After” pill, press 3. If you need to reach director of community services, Martha Lancaster, press 15; education director Laurie O’Neal (sp), press 13; outreach educator Chris Corey (sp), press 14; nurse practitioner Shelly Palston (ph), press 12; clinic assistant Ann Frailey (ph), press 16; developmental assistant Tammy Perrier (ph), press 17. If you are experiencing a medical emergency, please hang up and go to your closest emergency — (dial button pressed).

One moment please.

CLINIC: Good afternoon. Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. I just called, and I was put on hold. I was disconnected.

CLINIC: Yeah. I had to take another call that was lengthy.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: The closest place is Grand Rapids or Saginaw. And the number for Grand Rapids is 800-345-1393. And for Saginaw, it is 800-660-6234.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my friend told me that since I’ll be 14 in March that my parents have to sign some stuff. But my boyfriend is 22. Is he old enough to take care of that?

CLINIC: Nope.

CALLER: No? Oh. Well, is there anyway not to have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: You can do a judicial bypass.

CALLER: What is that?

CLINIC: You go to the probate court office and tell them that you want to terminate a pregnancy, that you want a judicial bypass. And they will help you get it. But I’d say with your age and stuff that it would be pretty hard to do. Are you sure you can’t involve your parents?

CALLER: Yeah. They can’t find out at all. They hate my boyfriend. They just think he’s too old for me. They just hate him. So if they found out, I don’t know what would happen.

CLINIC: But if you told them that you were pregnant, they would probably help you get the abortion, wouldn’t they?

CALLER: No. I mean, I don’t know what they would — if they found out that I was pregnant — if they found out that I was having sex, they would be furious. I don’t know what they would do. They can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, they’re going to ask you all kinds of questions when you go in for the judicial bypass. I mean, just be prepared — they’re going to really, really want you to involve your parents. They really encourage you to do that. Plus too, with it being a case of — I mean, no offense. But legally speaking it’s statutory rape.

CALLER: What is that? I’m not being raped. We’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: I know, but since you’re 14 and he’s 22, it’s considered statutory rape whether you’re consenting or not.

CALLER: Well, what could happen?

CLINIC: He can go to jail?

CALLER: He could go to jail? I don’t want him to go to jail. He can’t go to jail.

CLINIC: Then I wouldn’t tell anybody — I mean, I wouldn’t tell anybody how old your boyfriend is then.

CALLER: Oh. All right.

CLINIC: Especially if you go to probate court and want to terminate a pregnancy, there will be like a legal investigation if they find out he’s 22 years old.

CALLER: Well, would it be all right to come in and get a pregnancy test there?

CLINIC: Have you had one yet?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: You haven’t had a pregnancy test yet?

CALLER: No. I’m just scared because my last period was December 14th.

CLINIC: Are you using any birth control?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Condoms? Nothing?

CALLER: Uh-uh.

CLINIC: Oh, man. Are you having breast tenderness?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Any real vague menstrual type cramps?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Nothing like that?

CALLER: Uh-uh.

CLINIC: Are your periods normal? Do you usually have one every month?

CALLER: Usually.

CLINIC: Yeah. If you’re not using any birth control, then, yeah, you’re at high risk for pregnancy.

CALLER: Well, could I come and get a pregnancy test then?

CLINIC: Let’s see. You know what I’m going to have you do, because — and I know this sounds weird. But right now if you were to give me your name, and I were to write it down in the appointment book because of what you’ve already told me, that your boyfriend is 22 and that you’re 14 and you’re having sex with him, I would be obligated to report that.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: But what I’m going to do. I’m going to hang up the phone. Call back tomorrow and just say I need a pregnancy test; this is my name. And it’s going to be $12 for the pregnancy test. And when you come in, don’t tell anybody that. Otherwise, we’re going to have to get on the phone and call.

CALLER: Is it all right if my boyfriend brings me? Because I don’t know how else I would get there.

CLINIC: That’s fine. But I’m just saying —

CALLER: Just don’t tell anybody.

CLINIC: Just don’t tell us.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay? And that way — I mean, that way we don’t have to report it.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: If the pregnancy test was negative, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: I just don’t want to go through all this again.

CLINIC: I understand.

CALLER: Would you guys have to tell anybody if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Nope. Because we don’t require parental consent.

CALLER: Okay. Well, could he come and pick up the pills? Because I don’t drive.

CLINIC: Yeah, that’s fine. So we’ll give you a card that tells what kind of pill you’re on and everything and what your name is, and he would have to bring that in every time to pick your pills up.

CALLER: Would he have to sign anything or anything?

CLINIC: No, nothing like that.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Nothing like that. So call tomorrow. And it looks like — if the pregnancy test is negative, we could go ahead and do the whole exam and everything.

CALLER: All right. How much does that cost?

CLINIC: Well, the pregnancy test is definitely $12. But since you’re under 20 years old, your fees are based on your income.

CALLER: Well, I don’t have a job.

CLINIC: So whenever you come in we’ll tell you what the total normally would have been, and then you leave what you’re able to of that. But anything positive pregnancy related, like a pregnancy test, can’t be part of that program. And so that has to be paid in full.

CALLER: What price is that?

CLINIC: The pregnancy test is 12, and then you leave what you’re able to for the exam.

CALLER: You’ve just been so nice. Could I call you back if I had any other questions. What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Ann.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: You’re welcome. Bye.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#294 – Planned Parenthoodd in Battle Creek, MI

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PLANNED PARENTHOODD
693 CAPITAL AVE SW # 5
BATTLE CREEK, MI 49015-5024
616-964-0885

TAPE – 294

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Good afternoon. Battle Creek Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do pregnancy tests there.

CLINIC: Yes, we sure do.

CALLER: Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: It’s a dollar donation if you’d like to make that. You can just walk in anytime we’re open for those.

CALLER: Okay. Do you do abortions there?

CLINIC: We don’t do actual abortion surgeries here. We can provide you with information, and we can do the counseling that’s required beforehand. But then surgery would be in Kalamazoo.

CALLER: Well, my friend told me that — I’ll be 14 in March, and she said that you guys have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Can he do whatever they —

CLINIC: What we need to do — in the state of Michigan you either need to have parental consent or you need to go through the courts to get permission. So we certainly encourage you to talk to your parents, but if you don’t feel that you can do that, then we can talk to you about going through the court.

CALLER: Okay. Does anybody have to be told about that?

CLINIC: What we would do is you would go before a judge in the court system, and they would say whether you are mature enough to make a decision without telling your parents. So in that case you would not need to talk to your parents about it.

CALLER: Does the judge ever say no?

CLINIC: It happens occasionally. But certainly we could go through more of what to expect and that sort of stuff, help you prepare for it.

CALLER: How much does all of that cost?

CLINIC: An abortion, if you are less than 14 weeks from your last menstrual period, the total cash cost is $370.

CALLER: Well, if I went and talked to the judge, would I have to pay for a lawyer or anything?

CLINIC: No. We do have people who volunteer to do that, so there wouldn’t be any financial cost for that.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So could I come in there and get a pregnancy test then?

CLINIC: Yep. That would be a good idea. Go ahead and do that, and we can talk to you more about your options when you get in here, okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, it is okay if my boyfriend brings me in and everything?

CLINIC: Yeah, that’s fine. Okay?

CALLER: Could he ask you guys questions or anything?

CLINIC: Sure, yeah. If you want him to come back while we’re doing the pregnancy test for you, that’s fine.

CALLER: Would you guys have to tell anybody at all?

CLINIC: Everything we do here is confidential. So we would only release information to who you say we can talk to.

CALLER: And I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys do birth control?

CLINIC: Yep, we sure do. And we can get you set up with an appointment for that if that’s what you’re needing.

CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about that either?

CLINIC: Correct, exactly.

CALLER: Okay. Well, can I talk to him and then call you back? What’s your name?

CLINIC: Yep. I’m Jennifer.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: You’re welcome. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#322 – Planned Parenthood in Marquette, MI

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1219 N 3RD ST
MARQUETTE, MI 49855-3009
906-225-5070

TAPE – 322

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Good afternoon. Planned Parenthood. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we don’t do abortions here, but I could give you some information on where to go for that.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay. Can I put you on hold real quick, please?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Thank you.

(Long pause)

CLINIC: Thanks for holding.

CALLER: Hi.

CLINIC: Are you interested in going close by or somewhere where it’s cheaper?

CALLER: Well, I guess the cheaper place is better.

CLINIC: Okay. The cheaper place would be Saginaw.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Their phone number is 1-800-660-6234. You can tell them that Planned Parenthood up here in Marquette gave you the telephone number, and they might take a $25 discount off.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Their price is about $280. They do them from 6 to 12 weeks. Do you by any chance know if you’re RH negative or not?

CALLER: No, I don’t know.

CLINIC: You don’t know what your blood type is?

CALLER: No. How do you know how many weeks you are?

CLINIC: When was the first day of your last period?

CALLER: It was December 14th.

CLINIC: Okay. Let me do some calculating here.

(Short pause)

CALLER: Are you there?

CLINIC: I’m here. Okay. Let’s see here. December 14th, and today is February 20th. That puts you at about ten-and-a-half weeks. So if you’re going to do this, you need to call them and get this set up within the next week or week-and-a-half.

CALLER: Well, my friend just told me — I’ll be 14 in March, and she said that my parents have to sign some stuff. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of that?

CLINIC: Nope. Nope, nope, nope.

CALLER: No?

CLINIC: You have to have your parents’ permission to do this or you need to go before a judge and have the judge deem you old enough.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: The only thing is, if you go before a judge, don’t tell him how old your boyfriend is.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Because he can go right out and have him arrested for statutory rape.

CALLER: He could be arrested?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: He can’t be arrested. We’re in love. We’re going to get married. I don’t understand.

CLINIC: You’re 14. It doesn’t matter.

CALLER: What can I do?

CLINIC: Don’t tell anybody how old he is for one thing.

CALLER: Oh, all right. Does it cost anything to get the judicial bypass?

CLINIC: Nope. What I do need to do — what you need to do is go through a lawyer.

CALLER: How much does a lawyer cost?

CLINIC: You’ll have to call her. She might do them for free.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Yeah. The phone number is 228-9001. And if you guys are going to get married in June, why don’t you just go talk to your parents?

CALLER: Well, we’re not going to get married in June. I mean, he’s got to go through — like he’s got to finish college and everything, and he’s only — well, he’s like in his second year so he’s got a while still.

CLINIC: All right. But yeah, her name is Priscilla Bernam (ph). And the number is 228-9001, and talk to her. The sooner the better.

CALLER: All right. Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Have you had a pregnancy test yet?

CALLER: No. I’m just scared because I haven’t had my period for a while.

CLINIC: Have you been having any signs of a pregnancy?

CALLER: No. Well, I don’t think so.

CLINIC: All right. Why don’t we have you come in tomorrow. And we’ll run a pregnancy test. And if it’s positive, we’ll go from there.

CALLER: Okay. Well, what time tomorrow?

CLINIC: Just come in when you can.

CALLER: Okay. Is it all right if it’s in the afternoon? Because my boyfriend would have bring me. I don’t have any other way to get there.

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: Okay. Would he have to sign anything? He just doesn’t want anybody to know about him.

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: You guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody that I was there?

CLINIC: No. This is a completely confidential thing. I’m just warning you that if you go before a judge don’t say anything about your boyfriend’s age.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Because with you being under the age of consent, it doesn’t matter whether you’re in love and whether your parents approve or not, he can still be arrested.

CALLER: Okay. If the pregnancy test was negative, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Would you have to tell anybody that I was on birth control?

CLINIC: Nope, not a soul. That’s between you, your boyfriend and us.

CALLER: I just wish I could talk to my mom like I can talk to you. Is it all right if I call and ask you other questions if I think of anything?

CLINIC: Sure. Yeah, if you think of anything, just give us a call.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: If I can’t answer it, I can switch it on to somebody else. My name is Allison.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: But yeah, just give us a call anytime if you want to talk.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

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#295 – Planned Parenthood in Benton Harbor, MI

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
PO BOX 1123
BENTON HARBOR, MI 49023-1123
616-926-2042
616-637-8917

TAPE – 295

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. Do you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Do you know of any place that does?

CLINIC: The Kalamazoo one does.

CALLER: Okay. Do you have that phone number?

CLINIC: It’s 1-800-559-9093.

CALLER: My friend told me that since I’ll be 14 in March, that my parents have to sign some stuff. But can my boyfriend do it? He’s 22.

CLINIC: No. He couldn’t.

CALLER: Oh. Well, is there any way not to tell my parents?

CLINIC: You’d have to call them. I’m not sure how they work that.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: I’m sure they know some way.

CALLER: Well, could I come in to there for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Yep.

CALLER: Is it okay if my boyfriend brings me? Because I don’t know how else I would get there.

CLINIC: Yeah. That’s not a problem.

CALLER: Would you guys have to tell anybody that I was there?

CLINIC: Nope. We’re open until 4:30 today or 7:30 tomorrow.

CALLER: 7:30 tomorrow probably sounds good. But say that the pregnancy test was negative, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Would you guys have to tell anybody if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No, everything’s confidential. You couldn’t find anything out.

CALLER: I’ve got to call him. Can I call back? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Shana (sp).

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Yep.

CALLER: Thank you.

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#296 – Planned Parenthood in Jackson, MI

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
2009 W. MICHIGAN AVE
JACKSON, MI 49202-4010
517-784-1700

TAPE – 296

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Tee.

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we don’t here. We do in Ann Arbor.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you have that number?

CLINIC: It’s 1-800-638-0540

CALLER: Okay. Can I ask you a real quick question?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: My friend said since I’ll be 14 in March that my parents have to sign some stuff. But my boyfriend’s 22. Can he sign it?

CLINIC: He’s what?

CALLER: He’s 22.

CLINIC: Hang on, and I’ll check for you, okay?

CALLER: All right.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Are you there?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: No. Even though he’s 22 it has to be a parent. But there is a judicial bypass that you can do.

CALLER: Okay. What is that?

CLINIC: That is something that — you can come in here and get a counseling appointment, and we can sit and go over it with you and tell you what’s that all about. That could be a confidential consult.

CALLER: Well, do I have to pay for that?

CLINIC: No. That’d be fine. How old are you, 14?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Yeah, you’re still in school, so it’d be on a donation basis. It wouldn’t cost you anything.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You could just make an appointment to come in and talk to one of us here, and we could tell you all about that.

CALLER: Could my boyfriend come in with me?

CLINIC: Sure, no problem. Have you been here before?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Okay. We set up an appointment for you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You want to hang on a second?

CALLER: Huh?

CLINIC: Did you want to hold a minute; we can set it up for you now?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay. Hang on.

(Pause)

CLINIC: You can come in anytime we’re open, okay?

CALLER: When is that exactly?

CLINIC: Tuesday, Thursday and Friday, 9 to 5; Wednesday, 9 to 7:30 p.m., and Saturday, 9 to 1.

CALLER: Okay. Is it okay if I bring my boyfriend in case he has any questions?

CLINIC: Sure. It’s up to you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. It’s patient confidentiality. We can’t release any information.

CALLER: Okay. If I ended up not being pregnant, do you guys have birth control there?

CLINIC: Do we what?

CALLER: Do you have birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do. And we could set you up for an appointment for that as well.

CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about birth control either?

CLINIC: Nope.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

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#297 – Planned Parenthood in Big Rapids, MI

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
208 S MICHIGAN AVE
BIG RAPIDS, MI 49307-1810
231-796-8612

TAPE – 297

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Linda. May I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Do you know of anyone that does?

CLINIC: Your closest is Grand Rapids.

CALLER: Okay. Do you have that phone number?

CLINIC: No, I don’t. It should be in your phone book.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Do you guys do pregnancy tests there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: You’re late for your period?

CALLER: Huh?

CLINIC: Are you late for your period?

CALLER: Yeah. My last period was like the second week in December.

CLINIC: Okay. Just a little bit late then. Can you come in Wednesday morning at 11?

CALLER: Well, I’d have to call my boyfriend to see. But is there like an age limit or anything for that? I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: No. There’s no age limit.

CALLER: Do my parents have to sign anything? My boyfriend’s 22. Could he sign whatever it is?

CLINIC: No, because you’re only 14. You have to have parental permission to get an abortion, or you have to go for a judicial bypass.

CALLER: What is that?

CLINIC: You would go in front of the judge, and he would make a decision as to whether you are mature enough to make that decision on your own.

CALLER: Does he ever say no or anything?

CLINIC: I couldn’t tell you.

CALLER: Do I need a lawyer for that?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay. So I just go and talk to the judge and see what he says?

CLINIC: What you have to do is you have to set up the appointment at the abortion clinic. They’ll send you all the paperwork that you need. Then you set up the judicial bypass. Your boyfriend can’t make that decision.

CALLER: Oh, okay. But for the pregnancy test, could I come in and see you guys —

CLINIC: Yep.

CALLER: — and you guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody about it?

CLINIC: Nope.

CALLER: Okay. If I ended up not being pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about that either?

CLINIC: Nope.

CALLER: Would it be all right if my boyfriend brought me and everything?

CLINIC: Yeah, that’s fine.

CALLER: Okay. All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: Now, are you going to call me back when you’re available then?

CALLER: Yeah. I just have to call my boyfriend and see when he can get off work and take me.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Yep. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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