WOMEN’ S HEALTH SERVICES – DR. TILLER
5107 E. KELLOGG DR.
WICHITA, KS 67214
316-684-5108

TAPE – 829

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Women’s Health Care Services. This is Marguerite.

CALLER: Hi. Can I talk to Jennifer?

CLINIC: May I say who’s calling?

CALLER: Lisa.

CLINIC: One moment please.

(Pause)

CLINIC: She is with patients. Is there any way you could try back in about 30 minutes?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Thank you.

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Women’s Health Care Services. This is Deborah. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Can I talk to Jennifer, please?

CLINIC: May I ask who’s this?

CALLER: This is Lisa.

CLINIC: Lisa, hold on, okay?

CALLER: All right.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Okay. Right now, she is with her supervisor. Can I get a number and have her call you back, or do you want to call her back in 10 minutes? Ten minutes, definitely.

CALLER: I’ll just call back.

CLINIC: Okay. In 10 minutes.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay. Bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Women’s Health Care Services. This is Cary (sp).

CALLER: Hi. Can I talk to Jennifer, please?

CLINIC: May I tell her who’s calling?

CALLER: Lisa.

CLINIC: Just a second.

(Pause)

CLINIC: This is Jennifer. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see — I called earlier asking questions about getting an abortion. But the thing is, I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22, and he said that he would pay for everything and take care of everything. Would that be all right, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: The law says we have to.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: And at 14 you’re not of age. Kansas law says that the age of consent for sexual intercourse is 15. So you would have to tell your parents. You’d have to either your mom or your dad.

CALLER: So there’s no way not to have to tell them?

CLINIC: No. You would have to tell them.

CALLER: Oh. Well, is there any other place I could go?

CLINIC: Not in Kansas.

CALLER: Is there any other state then?

CLINIC: I don’t think so. I think all of them have parental notification laws now.

CALLER: It’s just I can’t tell my parents at all. They’d be furious. I mean, I can’t tell them.

CLINIC: There’s really nothing I can do. Have they threatened to hurt you or anything?

CALLER: No. But they’d be disappointed. I don’t know what they would do, but I know they’d be furious. And I can’t tell them at all.

CLINIC: The thing I’d have to tell you, as much as it’s going to disappoint them and make them mad, you’re going to have to tell them for the simple fact that he’s 22. He is over 18. And I believe in Kansas that is statutory rape.

CALLER: What? I mean, he’s not raping me. I mean, we’re in love. We’re going to get married. He said he was going to take care of me forever.

CLINIC: But he is older than 18. He is not an age mate to you. Because see, you’re a minor. You’re only 14 or 13. And the state of Kansas says that he is an adult and you’re not.

CALLER: So you’re going to have to tell on him?

CLINIC: Me? No. Unless you tell your parents and schedule to have an abortion here, I can’t turn him in.

CALLER: I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Would I be able to come in there and get one just to make sure before I talk to my parents?

CLINIC: Yes. We can do a pregnancy test for you.

CALLER: But would anybody have to know if I was getting a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Would you have to tell on my boyfriend for that?

CLINIC: What’s that?

CALLER: Would you have to tell on my boyfriend if I was getting a pregnancy test? Because he would be the only way I could get there.

CLINIC: I don’t believe we do.

CALLER: All right. If it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys. It’s just we don’t want to have to worry about this again.

CLINIC: You can’t get it from us because you won’t be one of our patients, but you can get it from Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: But would they have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: That you’re sexually active? No.

CALLER: All right. Let me think about this. When do you guys normally do pregnancy tests?

CLINIC: Let’s see. We could do one — is there any way that you can just go to the store and get one?

CALLER: Are those usually right though? I would just rather have someone else do it. That way I would know for sure.

CLINIC: They’re 90 percent — well, a 90 percent good rate. There’s like I guess a 5 or 10 percent failure rate on the pregnancy tests, the home ones. But if you’re positive, it’s going to show up on that.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: I think I just would rather come into you guys though, just to be really sure.

CLINIC: You can try a home test. It would be cheaper, and it would be less time consuming than to have to wait a couple of days and then come here.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Yeah. You could try one of those and see if they work.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: The best one that I recommend is the EPT.

CALLER: EPT?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: All right. But you’re sure nobody would have to know if I got birth control or had a pregnancy test there?

CLINIC: I’m pretty sure. I don’t think so.

CALLER: Okay. All right. Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

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WITCHITA FAMILY PLANNING
3013 E. CENTRAL AVE
WICHITA, KS 67214
316-688-0107

TAPE – 749

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Wichita Family Planning.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: How far along are you?

CALLER: I’m not really sure.

CLINIC: Anything under 12 weeks is $400 if you are a positive blood type.

CALLER: Okay. How do you know how many weeks you are?

CLINIC: Do you know the first day of your last period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: And that was the first day, right?

CALLER: Yes.

CLINIC: Today you’re looking at about nine weeks.

CALLER: Okay. So how much did you say it would be?

CLINIC: Four hundred dollars if you’re a positive blood type.

CALLER: Okay. The thing is, I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is that old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Oh, no. In the state of Kansas we have to have parent consent.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: Well, is there any way not to have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: There is such a thing called judicial bypass, although we don’t mess with that here in our clinic. You could call over to Dr. Tiller’s (ph) clinic, and maybe they could help you with that.

CALLER: Okay. Do you have the number for that?

CLINIC: Are you calling from Wichita?

CALLER: I’m in Leon.

CLINIC: Okay. It’s 1-800-882-0488.

CALLER: What was the last four, 882 what?

CLINIC: 882-0488.

CALLER: Okay. All right. Well, I haven’t had a pregnancy test yet. Would I be able to come in there for that?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: Okay. But would you have to tell my parents then?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Well, how much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: Five dollars.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So it would be all right if my boyfriend was there with me for that?

CLINIC: Sure. Sure.

CALLER: But if I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: Not without consent.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Um-hmm. You could go to Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: And they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Uh-uh.

CALLER: Oh, okay. All right. So just call this other doctor guy?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Yeah. And just ask him about the — first I’d find out if I was pregnant.

CALLER: Okay. So I could come in to you guys? When do you guys normally do that?

CLINIC: On Wednesdays.

CALLER: On Wednesday? What time on Wednesday?

CLINIC: For the procedure or —

CALLER: The pregnancy test.

CLINIC: Anytime.

CALLER: What are your hours?

CLINIC: 9 and 4.

CALLER: Tomorrow too?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: All right. Well, I’ve got to call my boyfriend and see. But if I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Michele.

CALLER: All right. Okay. Thanks. Bye.

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
2226 E CENTRAL AVE
WICHITA, KS 67214-4406
316-263-7575

TAPE – 402

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Please hold.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Thanks for holding. How can I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t do it here, but I could give you some people that could.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay, just a sec. Are you calling from Wichita?

CALLER: I’m in Augusta.

CLINIC: You’re in Augusta. Okay. Let me give you Dr. Tiller’s number.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: It is — is Wichita long distance from you?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Okay. It is 684-5108.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know, like — I’m just worried because my friend told me that since like — well, I’ll be 14 in March and she said that they would have to tell my parents I was getting an abortion. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just handle that and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I wouldn’t know that. You might call their office and ask them, okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Yeah, you sure could.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just I’m — the reason why I’m worried about all this is because like my last period was December 14, and I’m just scared.

CLINIC: Oh, well, I can understand that. Um, when would you want to come in?

CALLER: Well, I’m not sure really. I’d have to call my boyfriend to see when he could get off work. What time do you —

CLINIC: We stop seeing patients at 4:00 today.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, is it all right if he’s there with me?

CLINIC: It sure is.

CALLER: That would be the only way I could get there.

CLINIC: Yeah, it sure is. And we’re open tomorrow from 8:30 to 12:30 if you want to come in tomorrow morning.

CALLER: Okay. Well, we were talking about it and we were not wanting — we decided that we didn’t want anyone to know about all this, so would you guys have to tell anybody about us, or —

CLINIC: No. No. We’re completely confidential. We don’t even share information with other Planned Parenthood clinics without a signed consent.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, if the pregnancy test came out that I wasn’t pregnant do you guys have birth control there?

CLINIC: Yeah. We can give you that without your parents’ knowing too.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Okay. Well, would it be all right if like since my boyfriend, since I can’t drive, could my boyfriend pick up like the birth control pills, or —

CLINIC: At that time — you’ll have to see the nurse. What we’ll do is, we’ll set you up an appointment for birth control. And we’ll do a pap smear which is a screening for cancer, and she’ll explain all of that to you and how it’s done. And then she’ll set you up on what kind of birth control you want, and then if it’s more convenient for him to pick them up for you, yeah, we can put that in the computer and he’ll be able to pick them up. You’ll just order that, and he can pick them up.

CALLER: Okay. So if I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Holly.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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