OFFICES OF DR. HERBERT HODES
4840 COLLEGE BLVD.
SHAWNEE MISSION, KS 66211
913-491-6878

TAPE – 751

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Drs. Saudes (?) and Nauser (?). Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: We do.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: Do you have insurance?

CALLER: Well, no. My boyfriend said he would pay cash for everything.

CLINIC: Okay. Of course, it depends on how far along you are. The cash discount cost up to 12 weeks is $350 if you have a positive blood type; $450 if you have a negative.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Do you know information for greater than 12 weeks?

CALLER: Well, I don’t know. I just haven’t had my period since January 3rd.

CLINIC: Okay. What you need to do is, if it’s something you’re considering, you need to pick up the Kansas consent form. And you can either pick them up in our office or we can mail them to you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Do you want us to do that?

CALLER: Well, I’d just come by your office and get it. But the thing is, I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents.

CLINIC: Yes. Your parents would have to come with you.

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it?

CLINIC: No. It has to be a legal guardian. And they would have to bring a picture i.d. Can you hold just a second?

CALLER: All right.

RECORDING: — over the age of 18 have a gynecologic exam once every year.

CLINIC: You would have to have a legal guardian, and they have to have a picture i.d. If your names don’t match on the picture i.d.s, both of your names, then you have to bring a paper trail showing me why it’s not the same. Like if there’s been a divorce or a marriage or something showing me why your names don’t match.

CALLER: Well, I can’t tell my parents at all. Is there anything else that I could do so that they don’t find out?

CLINIC: You maybe can contact Comprehensive Health. Sometimes they can use the judicial bypass, but that’s nothing that our office can do. Okay?

CALLER: How do you do a judicial bypass?

CLINIC: I don’t know the whole procedure, but if you call them — do you want their number?

CALLER: Sure, yeah.

CLINIC: It’s 913-345-1400, and they may be able to help you.

CALLER: Can I come in there for a pregnancy test just to make sure I am pregnant?

CLINIC: You can go to either one of ours.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody then?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So I don’t need my parents to be there to get a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Uh-uh. Okay?

CALLER: Well, how much does it cost for that?

CLINIC: Can you hold just a moment?

CALLER: All right.

(Short pause)

CLINIC: Okay. It’s $10 cash for that.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: Not without your parents, but you can at Planned Parenthood, which is Comprehensive Health.

CALLER: Oh. So they wouldn’t have to tell anybody if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: All right. Well, if I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CALLER: If I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: Yeah. My name is Charlotte.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
4401 W 109TH ST
SHAWNEE MISSION, KS 66211-1303
913-312-5100

TAPE – 356

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Thank you for calling Comprehensive Health. This is Kimberly. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: How much does that cost?

CLINIC: It ranges from 375 to 2,250 —

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: — depending on how far along you are and what type of anesthesia you get.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how do you know how far along you are?

CLINIC: They do a sonogram when you come in for your procedure. We can give you an estimate over the phone by going by the first day of your last period.

CALLER: That was like December 14th.

CLINIC: Okay, hold on. December 14th?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: So you’re approximately 10 weeks, maybe a little less than that. The cost of the procedure is 375 to 500, up to 11.4 weeks. The price difference depends on what type of anesthesia you’re wanting. We offer three types of anesthesia. There’s local where you’re awake, and it’s 375. There’s contra sedation where you’re in a twilight sleep. It’s 450. And then there’s light general where you’re totally asleep, and it’s 500.

CALLER: Okay. My friend told me that since I’ll be 14 in March that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever papers there are?

CLINIC: You’re how old?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: No. Your parents would have to fill out a guardian notification form since you are a minor. Your boyfriend cannot sign it for you even though he is over 21.

CALLER: Oh. Well, is there any way not to tell my parents? They can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: You can get a judicial bypass.

CALLER: What is that?

CLINIC: You have to go through court and stand in front of a judge and tell him the reason why you feel like you’re capable of making your own decision without your parents knowing about it.

CALLER: How much does that cost?

CLINIC: I don’t think it cost anything. I could have you talk to a counselor, and they could explain it to you better about the judicial bypass.

CALLER: Well, should I come in there for a pregnancy test first?

CLINIC: If you already know you’re pregnant, then you don’t need to take a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Well, I’m not really sure. I just know that I missed my period, and I’m scared.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, if you’ve had a missed period that’s probably an indication that you are pregnant.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Have you taken a pregnancy test?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Well, you can come in and get one done. It’s $18 cash only. But it’s the same thing that you would get at the store. It’s a urine test.

CALLER: I would just rather have it done there so that I know it’s done right.

CLINIC: Okay. Can you come in this afternoon?

CALLER: Well, I’d have to call my boyfriend to see. But I really wanted him to be there with me. Is that all right?

CLINIC: He can come with you. He can’t go back when you’re back in the back talking with the nurse.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: But pregnancy tests are done on a walk-in basis. You can just walk in. Today they’re open until 6. You can come in from 3 to 6 today.

CALLER: He’s really worried. He doesn’t want anyone to know about him. Would you guys be asking a lot of questions?

CLINIC: Well, that just depends on if you want to talk to a counselor or not. You need to talk to a counselor about judicial bypass, and they’re probably going to want to know some information. But everything is confidential.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, if the pregnancy test was negative, do you guys have birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Would you have to tell anybody that I was on birth control or anything?

CLINIC: You can talk with the nurse if you’re wanting to get on birth control. She can discuss those options with you also.

CALLER: But does she have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No, she doesn’t have to tell — you don’t need a parent/guardian notification to get on birth control.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Is it all right if my boyfriend comes to pick it up? Because I can’t drive. I’m not old enough to drive.

CLINIC: Is it okay what now?

CALLER: Is it okay if he could pick up the pills?

CLINIC: You would have to send him with a note or either call and let us know first that he’s coming to pick them up.

CALLER: Is it all right if I call him and then call you back? What’s your name?

CLINIC: My name is Kimberly. But if you want to get on birth control, you would have to be seen as a patient here.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: So you would have to have an appointment. But if you just want to come in and get a pregnancy test, you can just walk in and get that done today, after 3 but before 6:00.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, I’ll call him. Thanks.

CLINIC: All right. Bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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