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#313 – Planned Parenthood in Portage, IN

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
2686 WILLOWCREEK RD
PORTAGE, IN 46368-3550
219-763-2385

TAPE – 313

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CALLER: Portage Planned Parenthood. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we don’t. They do that at the Maryville Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you have that phone number?

CLINIC: 769-3500.

CALLER: My friend told me that since I’ll be 14 in March that they would have to have my parents sign some stuff. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of that?

CLINIC: No, you have to have parental consent.

CALLER: Oh. Is there any way not to tell my parents? Because they can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: Well, then you’re going to have to go out of state.

CALLER: Like which state?

CLINIC: Chicago. Chicago is not requiring parental consent at this time.

CALLER: Do you know how long that would take?

CLINIC: No, I sure don’t. You have to call the clinic in Chicago and talk to them about it.

CALLER: Okay. My last period was like the 14th of December —

CLINIC: Can you hold please?

CALLER: Yeah.

(Pause)

CLINIC: I’m sorry. Go ahead.

CALLER: My last period was like the 14th of December. Do you know if I could come in there to make sure I was pregnant?

CLINIC: Well, we could do a pregnancy test which is $5.

CALLER: Well, would you guys have to tell anybody that I was getting a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No, everything here would be confidential.

CALLER: Would it be all right if my boyfriend brings me? Because I don’t know how else I would get there?

CLINIC: Yeah, that’s fine. We do pregnancy testing up until 2:30 and then from 4 to 6 this evening.

CALLER: But you’re sure nobody has to know that I’m there?

CLINIC: We’re strictly confidential for that, yes.

CALLER: If I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys have birth control there?

CLINIC: Yeah, we do.

CALLER: Would you have to tell anybody that I was on birth control at all?

CLINIC: No. Everything is confidential here.

CALLER: Okay. I don’t drive. Is it all right if my boyfriend comes and picks up the birth control?

CLINIC: Well, you’d have to go through an exam to do that. And then you can pick up supplies when you come in for your exam.

CALLER: Could I call you right back and talk to my boyfriend and see? What was your name?

CLINIC: This is Pat.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: All right. Bye.

***END***

#314 – Planned Parenthood in Richmond, IN

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1104 S. A ST.
RICHMOND, IN 47374-5526
765-935-5525

TAPE – 314

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we do not.

CALLER: Do you know of anyplace that does?

CLINIC: Have you had a positive pregnancy test?

CALLER: Well, no.

CLINIC: Okay. Do you think you’re pregnant?

CALLER: Well, I think so. I missed my period. The last time I had my period was December 14th.

CLINIC: Okay. You really need to confirm a positive pregnancy test. You can come here. We can do that for $5. You can do a home one. If it’s positive, come in. We can give you lots of information.

CALLER: My friend told me that since I’ll be 14 in March that my parents have to sign some stuff. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever that is?

CLINIC: (Pause) Now what?

CALLER: Well, my friend said that my parents have to sign some stuff. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he sign whatever that is?

CLINIC: No. You have to have parental consent. But you really need not to worry about all that until you definitely confirm that you are pregnant.

CALLER: Okay. So I don’t have to be a specific age to get a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Is it all right if he brings me? Because that’s the only way I’d be able to get there.

CLINIC: I don’t care who brings you. Do you know where we’re at?

CALLER: Well, he knows.

CLINIC: He does?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Okay. Now, we’ve moved.

CALLER: Yeah. That’s what he said, so I think he knows.

CLINIC: But you need to confirm a positive pregnancy test before you worry about all that other stuff.

CALLER: Okay. So you guys wouldn’t have to tell my parents or anybody that I was there?

CLINIC: You’re how old?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: If you’re 13 and pregnant, we do have to report to Child Protection.

CALLER: But why? What do you mean? Why do you have to tell them?

CLINIC: There are state regulations that say —

CALLER: Nobody can find out. I don’t understand what you mean.

CLINIC: Well, there are state regulations we have to follow, okay?

CALLER: So you have to tell that I was there?

CLINIC: We don’t tell your parents; we tell Child Protection. And Child Protection takes care of it thereafter.

CALLER: But would they tell my parents?

CLINIC: Pardon?

CALLER: Would they tell my parents?

CLINIC: Probably.

CALLER: So if you tell the child protective people, then they would tell my parents?

CLINIC: Okay. You’re worried about stuff you don’t need to worry about yet. You need to confirm a pregnancy test.

CALLER: But if I come in for a pregnancy test you said that you would have to tell the child protective people.

CLINIC: Right. State regulations say, sexually active 13 — or 13-year-olds who are pregnant have to be reported. We have to follow regulations.

CALLER: Well, so what could I do then?

CLINIC: Okay. I’m not sure what you’re wanting from me.

CALLER: Well, I want to be taken care of and not have my parents find out. Because if they found out I don’t know what would happen. They just can’t find out.

CLINIC: Okay. If you’re pregnant, they’re probably going to find out.

CALLER: But they can’t find out.

CLINIC: Okay. What specifically do you want from me?

CALLER: Well, I just don’t want to be pregnant.

CLINIC: Okay. First of all you need to have a positive pregnancy test and know for sure you are pregnant.

CALLER: But if I come in there to get a pregnancy test, you guys would have to tell people that will tell my parents, right?

CLINIC: We have to tell Child Protection. Whether or not they talk to your parents is up to them. If they feel there’s sexual abuse going on, they’re probably going to talk to your parents.

CALLER: But me and my boyfriend are in love. We’re not —

CLINIC: I cannot change regulations.

CALLER: Well, then where can I go to get a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: You can go here. They have like birth right centers. You can go to the drug store and buy them over the counter. But before you worry about all this stuff, you need to have a positive pregnancy test.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if I went to the drug store, are the ones there accurate?

CLINIC: Talk to your pharmacist and ask them which one they recommend.

CALLER: But what if I wasn’t pregnant, could I come there and get birth control?

CLINIC: Well, if you run that test and you’re not pregnant, call us back, and then we can talk to you, set you up an appointment and tell you what we can do.

CALLER: But if I was on birth control from there, would you guys have to tell anybody that I was?

CLINIC: Depends on your age. After a certain age we don’t have to report it. But under certain ages we do have to report it.

CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Well, then come see us in March.

CALLER: Would you have to tell anybody then though?

CLINIC: Not if you’re 14.

CALLER: Oh, all right. Okay. You’ve been so nice. If I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Just call back, and we’ll answer any questions you have.

CALLER: Well, what was your name?

CLINIC: I don’t usually give that out because we never know who you’re going to talk to when you call. I might be off that day. But just call back anytime you need to.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All righty. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#315 – Planned Parenthood in Crawfordsville, IN

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1686 CRAWFORDSVILLE SQUARE DR.
CRAWFORDSVILLE, IN 47933-3800
765-362-5051

TAPE – 315

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, not at this site. But I can give you a number if you’d like.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay? Hold on just a moment.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Are you ready?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: It’s 1-800-352-1901.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Have you already been confirmed pregnant?

CALLER: No. Do you guys do that there?

CLINIC: Yeah. I can do the confirmation, and you have to have that before you go.

CALLER: Okay. My friend told me that since I’ll be 14 in March that my parents have to sign some stuff. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to do that?

CLINIC: Like I said, all I can do is pregnancy confirmation. Other than that, I don’t know anything about it.

CALLER: Do you have to have my parents sign anything for that?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Not for just the pregnancy test.

CALLER: So you guys don’t have to tell anybody that I’m getting a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: That’s correct.

CALLER: Okay. Well, is it all right if my boyfriend’s there with me?

CLINIC: That’s completely fine. You’re basically going to be in the waiting room the whole time anyway. So yeah, that’s fine, no big deal.

CALLER: Would he have to sign anything or anything saying that he’s there with me?

CLINIC: Ummmmm — can you hold just a second and I’ll check?

CALLER: Yeah.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Are you there?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Actually, because of your age and his age — and I hate to say this, but we would have to report you.

CALLER: Who would you have to report me to? What do you mean?

CLINIC: You said you were 14, right?

CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Okay. So you’re actually 13 right now and he’s 22, right?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: That’s statutory rape.

CALLER: What is that? What do you mean? He’s not raping me.

CLINIC: I know. I understand that. But by our Planned Parenthood guidelines because of your age and his age, we would have to report you to the state of Indiana.

CALLER: What could I do? I don’t want him to go to jail.

CLINIC: Right, I understand that. But I’m just telling you by our protocol, if you come in here for anything, we have to report you to the state of Indiana.

CALLER: So what could I do then?

CLINIC: I have no idea. I don’t know what your avenues are from there. I’m just explaining to you what I can do.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: So you can come in here and get the confirmation for a positive pregnancy, but if you come in here I have to report you to the state of Indiana.

CALLER: Well, I can’t do that at all.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, then I’m sorry.

CALLER: If I wasn’t pregnant, could I come in there for birth control?

CLINIC: Because you’ve already told me your partner is 22, we would still have to report you.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: That’s what I’m saying. If you come in here at all, period, we’re going to have to report you because you’re 14 and he’s 22.

CALLER: Well, is there like a different Planned Parenthood that I could go to?

CLINIC: All of the Planned Parenthood protocols are the exact same. No matter where you go, they would have to report you to the state of Indiana.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: That’s why I wanted to check because I wanted to give you a little heads up to let you know. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome (chuckle).

CALLER: If I took a home pregnancy test, do you think that those are accurate or anything?

CLINIC: They are accurate, yes. But if you need any other services, whether it be abortion, adoption or keeping the baby after that, you would have to have a positive, confirmed pregnancy test from a doctor.

CALLER: From a doctor?

CLINIC: Or from your doctor, right.

CALLER: Could I get birth control there? Like if the home pregnancy test was negative, could I come in there and get birth control?

CLINIC: You would have to come in and have an exam and get your birth control that way. But like I said, we’d have to report you to the state of Indiana.

CALLER: Even for birth control?

CLINIC: Yes, for anything. Anytime we find out an under-age person is having sex with an older person of that age group, we have to report it to the state of Indiana.

CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 in March. Does that make any difference?

CLINIC: It has to be under the age of 16. So you’re below by several years.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I’m just really scared and I don’t know what to do.

CLINIC: Right.

CALLER: Could I call and talk to you again?

CLINIC: Sure, no problem.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Maureen. And I’m the only one here besides the nurse.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

***END***

#281 – Planned Parenthood in Terre Haute, IN

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
30 S 3RD ST
TERRE HAUTE, IN 47807-3426
812-238-2636

281 (Indiana)

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Do you know of any place that does?

CLINIC: Yeah. Indianapolis and Bloomington.

CALLER: Do you have the phone number for that?

CLINIC: Um-hum. Okay, the one in Bloomington — are you calling from Indiana?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay, the one in Bloomington is 800-828-7525.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And then the one in Indianapolis is 800-352-1901.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, like do you have to be a specific age for that? Like I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: You’ll be what?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: You don’t have to be a specific age, but you do have to have parental consent.

CALLER: Oh. Well, my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever papers they need?

CLINIC: No. They need parental consent. He’s not your parent.

CALLER: Okay. Well, is there any way not to tell my parents, because they can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: Not in Indiana. No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: No, there isn’t. Not in Indiana. Indiana law requires.

CALLER: Well, what could I do then?

CLINIC: I’m not sure. You might have to look at going out of state.

CALLER: Like which state do you think?

CLINIC: Maybe Illinois.

CALLER: Okay. And you don’t think they’d have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: I’m not sure. I don’t know Illinois law. At one time they didn’t. It could have changed.

CALLER: Well, could I come in to where you’re at to get a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Oh, yeah. You can come in and get a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Would you have to tell anybody that I was getting a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No. No. No. That’s confidential. The cost of the test is $5.

CALLER: Okay. Well, is it all right like if my boyfriend brings me and everything, if he’s there?

CLINIC: Oh, yeah, that’s no problem. You can come in and get a birth control method without parental consent, but to have an abortion you have to have parental consent.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: So you’re saying, you said if I wasn’t pregnant I could get birth control there?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Yes, you can. Have you had a pregnancy test yet?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: No? I suggest you have a pregnancy test. And then when you come there’s a paper that we can give you that will list all of the abortion clinics.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And the test, cost of your test is $5. If you were coming today we would ask that you be here no later than 4:30.

CALLER: Oh. Well, I’d have to call my boyfriend and see. Could I call you back? What was your name?

CLINIC: Oh, well, you don’t have to call me back.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: You don’t have to — it’s not an appointment. It’s a walk-in service, and if you can get in today before 4:30 all you have to do is show up.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Otherwise, tomorrow we’re here from 10:30 until 6:30.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Now my name’s Silver, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All righty?

CALLER: All right, thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#271 – Planned Parenthood in Gary, IN

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
3229 BROADWAY # 160
GARY, IN 46409-1041
219-883-0411

TAPE – 271

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Uh-uh, only Maryville.

CALLER: Do you have that phone number?

CLINIC: Uh-huh– 769-3500.

CALLER: My friend said that you guys have to tell my parents. I’ll be 14 in March, but —

CLINIC: Oh, your mom has to take you or they won’t do it.

CALLER: Really? I can’t let my parents find out at all. They hate my boyfriend; they think he’s too old for me. But he’s only 22.

CLINIC: Oh, no. Your mom or dad has to go with you.

CALLER: But they can’t find out at all? What could I do?

CLINIC: Well, you can’t get it done in Indiana?

CALLER: Yeah?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Huh?

CLINIC: You can’t get it done in the state of Indiana without your parent.

CALLER: Okay. So where can I go then?

CLINIC: You can call Chicago Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Really? Do you have that phone number?

CLINIC: Not right off hand. But if I put you on hold, I can find it.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Could I come there for the pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: You sure can.

CALLER: Would you have to tell anybody about that?

CLINIC: No, ma’am.

CALLER: Would it be all right if my boyfriend brings me?

CLINIC: Uh-hmm.

CALLER: Okay. Could you give me the Chicago number actually?

CLINIC: Hold on.

CALLER: Okay.

(Long pause)

CLINIC: Hello?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Let me see. Chicago on North LaSalle, no parental consent or notification required. The number is 1-312-266-1033.

CALLER: Okay. If I came in and got the pregnancy test and it was negative, do you guys have birth control there?

CLINIC: You know what? You would have to make an appointment for an exam.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Is it all right if I call my boyfriend and then call you back for that?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Marcia.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#282 – Planned Parenthood in Lafayette, IN

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
PO BOX 1159
LAFAYETTE, IN 47902-1159
765-742-9073

TAPE – 282

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

RECORDING: You have reached the Lafayette Planned Parenthood. Our office hours are Monday 9 to 5; Tuesday and Wednesday 11 to 7; Thursday 9 to 5; Friday 10 to 5; and Saturday 9 to 1. To reach administration, press 6, and to reach the clinic, press 4. Thank you (dial button pressed).

Please hold while your call is being transferred extension number 255.

(Phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we don’t do them at this clinic.

CALLER: Oh. Do you know of anybody that does?

CLINIC: Indianapolis has a clinic that does them. I can give you their phone number.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: It’s 1-800-352-1901.

CALLER: Do you know if you have to be a specific age for that? I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: You’ll probably need a parental consent.

CALLER: But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever they need to sign? Is he old enough?

CLINIC: No. You need a parental consent. It’s the law in Indiana.

CALLER: Is there any way not to tell my parents? It’s just they hate him. They can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: You can try calling that clinic and see if there are other states that may not require parental consent.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, could I come in there and get a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Yeah, you can.

CALLER: Would you guys have to tell anybody that I was there?

CLINIC: Well, we’d have to report it to CFS.

CALLER: Why?

CLINIC: Because of your age.

CALLER: But I don’t understand.

CLINIC: We just have to. It’s just a state law that we have to report —

CALLER: Would I get in trouble?

CLINIC: They would just notify your parents.

CALLER: But they can’t tell my parents.

CLINIC: That’s what I mean. Just contact the clinic number that I gave you.

CALLER: But if I was getting a pregnancy test, they would have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: Just contact them, because if it’s abortion related, then it’s all kept confidential.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: That’s what I’m trying to tell you.

CALLER: Well, I was just told to come to where you’re at. So that’s why —

CLINIC: Did you contact the Women’s Clinic already?

CALLER: No. Like my friend told me that I should go to you.

CLINIC: Just contact the Planned Parenthood Indianapolis because they’re better equipped with all that information, the legalities behind everything.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Because we’re limited in what we can do at this clinic. We don’t do the same services at each clinic.

CALLER: Okay. But if I’m not pregnant, could I get birth control there where you’re at?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody that I was on birth control?

CLINIC: Hold on a second. I’ll just make sure because of the age thing. And how old is your boyfriend?

CALLER: He’s 22.

CLINIC: Okay. We would definitely have to report that then, because of his age.

CALLER: Why?

CLINIC: Because it’s considered rape.

CALLER: What? I don’t understand. We’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: I know. But in the legal proceedings and everything else — in the law — it’s considered statutory rape.

CALLER: But he’s not raping me. We’re in love. I don’t understand.

CLINIC: I know that, hon. But you have to understand that in Indiana anything under — if you’re having sex with somebody who is an adult, it’s considered state statutory rape.

CALLER: Well, what can I do? Where can I go?

CLINIC: I would try contacting the Women’s Choice — have you taken an over-the-counter pregnancy test or anything?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Try that first just to make sure if you are pregnant or not. And then after that, you can give us a call. You can ask for Angie. She’s our manager here.

CALLER: Okay. What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Melissa (unclear).

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

***END***

#261 – Planned Parenthood in Anderson, IN

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1825 E 18TH ST
ANDERSON, IN 46016-2426
765-642-9931

TAPE – 261

(dialing sound) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. How can I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we don’t. I have a 1-800 number. We have a Woman’s Choice in Indianapolis.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: It’s 1-800-352-1901.

CALLER: Okay. What was the Women’s Center in Indianapolis?

CLINIC: Yeah. It’s a Woman’s Choice.

CALLER: Okay. And that’s the 1-800 number?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know like — my friend said that my parents have to sign some stuff. Is it all right if my boyfriend does it because he’s 22?

CLINIC: That I’m not sure. That I can’t answer you. You’d have to ask them.

CALLER: Is there like — well do you know if there’s like an age limit or anything to have an abortion? Like I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: No, not that I know of.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? You’ll just have to call and ask, talk to them about it.

CALLER: Okay. Do you know like — do you know if my parents have to know or anything?

CLINIC: That I’m not sure of either.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, could I come into there and get a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: To make sure that you are?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Yes, you can.

CALLER: Would you guys have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: They just can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: No. We don’t — that’s confidentiality.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And it’s $5.00 for the pregnancy test.

CALLER: Okay. Is it all right if my boyfriend brings me?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: It is?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Okay. Do you guys have to know anything about him at all?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: All right. So like you wouldn’t be asking like a whole bunch of questions or anything?

CLINIC: No. We just do the pregnancy test on you and talk to you about it, and give you whatever information you’d like to have.

CALLER: So if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody that I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No. That would be your choice.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay? And to that, it’s $27 to do HOPE which is called the (unclear) exam, and then your pills are $11 per pack.

CALLER: All right. Well, is it okay if like I call you back to get an appointment?

CLINIC: You don’t need an appointment to do neither one of those.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well if my boyfriend had questions or anything that I didn’t think of, could I call and talk to you? You’re just nice. I don’t want to talk to anyone else.

CLINIC: Yeah. I’ll be here.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Brandy.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

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#272 – Planned Parenthood in Elkhart, IN

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
221 N MAIN ST
ELKHART, IN 46516-3036
574-294-7561

TAPE – 272

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Elkhart Planned Parenthood. May I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Okay. Do you know of anybody that might?

CLINIC: There’s a clinic in South Bend and there’s a clinic in Niles. Those are the only two in the are. You want those numbers?

CALLER: Yes, please.

CLINIC: The clinic in Niles is 616-683-6100. And the clinic in South Bend is 219-272-1010.

CALLER: My friend told me that since I’ll be 14 in March that my parents have to sign some stuff —

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: — but my boyfriend’s 22. Could he do that?

CLINIC: No, uh-uh. You have to have parental consent. And no one else, unless they’re a legal guardian, can do that.

CALLER: Is there any way not to tell them at all? Because they can’t find out. I don’t know what would happen.

CLINIC: The only other way in either Michigan or Indiana is to be declared — I can’t think of the world. You have to be emancipated.

CALLER: What does that involve?

CLINIC: Well, that involves going to court and have a judge declare that you are taking care of yourself and that your parents are not legally bound to take care of you.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do I need a lawyer for that?

CLINIC: Well, there’s a lot of paperwork to fill out, and you have to make a certain amount of income.

CALLER: But I’ll be 14 in March. I don’t have a job.

CLINIC: My only concern with this whole conversation is that if you’re 14 and your boyfriend’s 22, there’s enough of an age there that that’s a problem.

CALLER: What kind of problem? What do you mean?

CLINIC: Well, legally that’s against the law. That’s called statutory rape.

CALLER: What? What do you mean?

CLINIC: At 14 you’re not old enough to consent to have sex with a 22-year-old.

CALLER: But we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Okay. That’s besides the point. I’m just mentioning that to you. You may have problems becoming emancipated. I don’t think a lawyer under those circumstances or a judge under those circumstances is going to do that. I would talk to those other two clinics.

CALLER: What could I do then?

CLINIC: Well, you may need to talk to your parents.

CALLER: But I can’t tell my parents.

CLINIC: And why is that?

CALLER: If they found out, they’d be furious. I don’t know what would happen.

CLINIC: At some point there’s no way around that. I mean unfortunately — in either of these states they can’t do anything about it. You have to have a parental consent, and they have to prove that. They have to have picture i.d.s and they have to have birth — it’s not anything that you can work around.

CALLER: Well, could I come in there to get a pregnancy test? I’m just scared because I missed a period, so I don’t know really. But could I come in there and see?

CLINIC: You could set up an appointment. When was your last period?

CALLER: It was like the second week in December.

CLINIC: Okay, hold on.

(Pause)

CLINIC: We have an opening tomorrow at 9:30 or tomorrow afternoon at 2:15.

CALLER: Well, I would have to call my boyfriend to see when he could get off work, but okay.

CLINIC: You’d have to let us know.

CALLER: Well, do you guys have to tell anybody if I’m getting a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No. We don’t. We don’t need parental consent here. That’s a different ball game.

CALLER: And you wouldn’t have to tell anybody about my boyfriend?

CLINIC: No. If you — if you’re not pregnant — there’s always a chance that you’re not pregnant — then the smart thing would be to get on a method of birth control if you’re going to be sexually active.

CALLER: You guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody about that?

CLINIC: Not at 14, no.

CALLER: But you wouldn’t tell anybody about my boyfriend?

CLINIC: Not if you’re coming in for a pregnancy test. I’m not going to tell anything about it. We’re not going to give any information to anybody.

CALLER: Okay. Well, could I call you back?

CLINIC: Sure. Let me know.

CALLER: What was your name?

CLINIC: Well, anybody here can schedule your appointment. Just tell them you need to set up an appointment for a pregnancy test. You’d like to come in tomorrow. And it’s a real small clinic, so we’ll get you in, okay?

CALLER: Well, could I come to you? I mean, you’re just nice.

CLINIC: My name is Kim if I’m here.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#283 – Planned Parenthood in Seymour, IN

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
303 S. WALNUT ST. # 3
SEYMOUR, IN 47274-2369
812-522-8789

TAPE – 283

(Dialing, phone ringing 3x)

CLINIC: Seymour Planned Parenthood. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: No, sweetheart. We don’t do them here in this office. Planned Parenthood provides that as a service in our Indianapolis or our Bloomington office. I can give you either one of those numbers.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Which one would you prefer, Bloom or Indie? They’re both about the same distance from here.

CALLER: I guess I want Indianapolis.

CLINIC: All righty. And that’s called the Women’s Choice. It’s 1-800-352-1901.

CALLER: Okay. I’ll be 14 in March. Is that okay? My friend told me that my parents have to sign some stuff. But my —

CLINIC: They do, sweetie. Under 18 you cannot have that done as a service. In Indiana it’s a state law without parental consent.

CALLER: Oh, well. My boyfriend’s 22. Could he sign it or anything?

CLINIC: No. Your boyfriend has nothing to do with you legally.

CALLER: Oh. Is there any way not to tell my parents?

CLINIC: I don’t think so, sweetheart. You can call and talk to the, but no, I don’t believe so. In the state of Indiana it’s a state law anybody under 18 has to have parental or a legal guardian consent.

CALLER: If I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: If you aren’t pregnant, we can provide it as a service, yes.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But state law will not allow a minor under the age of 18 to have a termination without parental consent.

CALLER: Oh, okay. But if I was on birth control — I’m not real sure if I’m pregnant. But if I wasn’t and I was getting birth control from you guys, do you have to tell anybody anything?

CLINIC: No, we do not because we are protected by the state law because we provide sexually transmitted infection testing and treatment.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: We will tell you that — we encourage everybody under 18 — it’s part of our guidelines. We tell encourage you to involve your parents. We’re not here trying to be sneaky. We encourage parental involvement. We tell everybody that we want them to talk to their parents. But I will tell you that we can provide you a service. But if you are 14 or under 14 and sexually active, we have to also give that information to the Child Protective Services. That’s also a state law.

CALLER: So you’d have to tell on me if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: Yes, ma’am. We would have to. If you’re sexually active, and if we have that information, we would have to let Child Protective Services know, yes.

CALLER: Well, what can I do then?

CLINIC: Sweetheart, there’s probably nothing you can do. Talk to an adult. Talk to a parent. If you’re 14 and having sex with somebody — and I wish you hadn’t even told me. He could be arrested for —

CALLER: Arrested?

CLINIC: Absolutely.

CALLER: I don’t — but —

CLINIC: Listen to me. Because the law says, if he is having sex with a minor, and you’re 14 and he’s 22 years old, there’s something not quite right there. I don’t care how old you are, you’re young. You’re considered in the eyes of the law a minor.

CALLER: But we’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Well, sweetheart, if you were married, that’s a different story. But you can’t even get married without the consent or the signature of an adult. So you are not considered able to do those things. Okay?

CALLER: Well, what should I do.

CLINIC: I’m going to encourage you to quit having sex with him first of all until you can get this all lined out. Talk to an adult. If you don’t trust talking to your parents, talk to a school counselor. Talk to a minister. Talk to somebody that you’re comfortable with. You need to find out whether or not you’re pregnant, okay? That’s the first thing you need to do, find out whether or not you’re pregnant. If you’re not, then you need to consider a type of birth control if you’re going to be sexually active.

But I’m going to strongly encourage you to not be involved with this person until you get things all lined out legally, because there’s just a lot of ramification. If you continue to have sex with this person, if your parents wanted to, they could press charges. And yes, he could be arrested for statutory rape. And he should know that himself.

CALLER: Okay. But you’re not going to tell on me?

CLINIC: Do what?

CALLER: You’re not going to tell on me?

CLINIC: We don’t even have your name, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So no. I’m giving you good, straight-forward advice. Please protect yourself. Please stop having sex with him until you can get things evaluated, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: I don’t have your name, so I’m not going to tell anybody. But what I’m telling you, if you come here and you want a service from us, we want to help you, and we will do what we can. But I’m going to be up front with you and tell you, at 14 and under if you are sexually active, we have to by law report that to Child Protective Services.

CALLER: So I can’t get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: I did not say that. I told you that if you came here and you’re sexually active, we have to report it. That’s all I’m telling you. We can provide you —

CALLER: But could I get birth control?

CLINIC: Yes, but you’re going to have to have it reported that you were sexually active. And I can’t tell you what happens then. But yes, you can get birth control through us. Okay?

CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: Well, sweetheart, if you’re only 13 now, we have to report all this, absolutely, yes.

CALLER: But when I turn 14, could I come in?

CLINIC: You can come in anytime you want, but we’re still going to have to report it at 14 and under. I’m just telling you the facts. Okay?

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: I’m not trying to keep you from coming in. I’m being right up front with you and very honest.

CALLER: Oh. My friend’s mom is coming. Can I call you back? What was your name?

CLINIC: Oh, my name’s Keena (ph).

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

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#262 – Planned Parenthood in Avon., IN

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
7487 E US HIGHWAY 36
AVON., IN 46123-7170
317-272-2042

TAPE – 262

(dialing sound) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Avon Planned Parenthood. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Not at this particular clinic, but I can give you the number to our abortion clinic.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: It’s 352-1900.

CALLER: Okay. Well do you know — like my friend told me that my parents have to sign some stuff –

CLINIC: If you’re under the age of 18, yes.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Is there any way — like my boyfriend’s 22. Could he do that?

CLINIC: No. No. Parent’s signature only. He’s not your guardian.

CALLER: Oh. Well, is there — like I’ll be 14 in March. You sure that they have to –

CLINIC: They have to sign, sweetheart. You have to be — if you’re under the age of 18 you need parental consent.

CALLER: Is there any way around that?

CLINIC: You realize that you are under the age of 14 and your boyfriend’s 21 years of age — that’s considered child abuse. So.

CALLER: But I don’t understand. We’re in love. We’re going to get married. He’s not abusing me.

CLINIC: Well, the minds of, the eyes in the court it’s considered child abuse.

CALLER: Well, what could happen?

CLINIC: He could go to jail.

CALLER: He could go to jail?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Well –

CLINIC: For rape.

CALLER: What — but he’s not raping me. We’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: That’s fine, but in the eyes of the law it is considered rape.

CALLER: Well, is there anything I can do? What can I do?

CLINIC: You can call the abortion clinic. They might be able to give you some ideas.

CALLER: Well, would they have to tell my parents, and arrest my boyfriend?

CLINIC: No. They just won’t be able to see you there without your parental consent, so –

CALLER: But they can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: Then you’re going to have to call the abortion clinic and maybe they can give you some referrals to out-of-state clinics.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Would they have to say anything about anything?

CLINIC: You’d have to call the number that I gave you and they can go over that information with you.

CALLER: Well, my friend just told me to go to you guys. Could I get a pregnancy test there?

CLINIC: Yes. It’s $5.00.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you have to tell anybody that I’m getting a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay. Is it — well, my boyfriend has to bring me. Do you have to tell them about him or tell anybody about him?

CLINIC: We don’t care how old you are to get a pregnancy test, or how old the person is that you’re sleeping with.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: The state of Indiana if you want an abortion, okay, you need mom and dad’s consent.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: I’m just letting you know that with his age and your age it’s considered rape. He’s in the wrong. He should not — I mean, legally through the eyes of the law he should not even be touching you. It doesn’t matter if you’re in love or not. It’s still not right. That’s what the law thinks.

CALLER: But are you going to report him if I go in there?

CLINIC: If you have an exam with us or anything like that, yes we would have to report you, but a pregnancy test, no. But I would suggest is that since he’s 21 years of age — does he have his own place?

CALLER: Well, yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. I’d have him buy you a pregnancy test and take it there.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And then you’re going to have to go — if you don’t want mom and dad involved you will have to go out of state.

CALLER: Oh. Well, if I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: We do, but with your age we would have to report you.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Okay? So your option at this point until you turn 15 would be to use condoms.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Condoms, foam, something like that.

CALLER: Well, you were saying I could go out of state. Which state would I –

CLINIC: You could go out of state to have an abortion.

CALLER: Which state?

CLINIC: The numbers I gave you?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: That’s the number you need to call. They can answer all your questions.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, so if I wanted to come in for a pregnancy test could I – like if I had other questions –

CLINIC: If you have $5, we’ll do a pregnancy test on anybody.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, if I had any other questions could I call and talk to you?

CLINIC: We would prefer that you call the abortion clinic.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: The number that I gave you, the 352 –

CALLER: Well, I just wanted to go there to get a pregnancy test.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, they would be able to answer any questions about abortion for you.

CALLER: Is it okay to come to you guys to get a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Yeah. But if you have any questions — what I’m saying is if you have any questions about abortion you need to call the number that I gave you.

CALLER: Okay. So could I come and see you for the pregnancy test?

CLINIC: You can come see us for a pregnancy test, sweetheart.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But we wouldn’t be able to give you — you know. It would be best if you have questions about abortion you need to call the number that I gave you.

CALLER: Well, I just wanted a pregnancy test. Is it okay to come in there?

CLINIC: Yes. They’re $5.00.

CALLER: Okay. What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Dawn.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Um-hum.

(phone clicks)

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