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#530 – Planned Parenthood in Alamosa, CO

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
1560 W 12TH ST # 7
ALAMOSA, CO 81101-3712
719 / 589-4906

TAPE – 530

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Jennifer. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: We don’t, but I can give you a phone number of where they do.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: They have — there’s a clinic in Durango, one in Springs, one in Denver and one in Ft. Collins.

CALLER: Okay. What’s the one in Durango?

CLINIC: I don’t know that number. Let me look here. It is, the number is 1-800-472-4884.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know, I’m just really worried because like, well, I’m going to be 14 years old in March, and my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents I’m getting an abortion. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody about anything?

CLINIC: Let me ask. Hold on.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: They won’t notify your parents.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Okay. Well, it’s just — the thing is, me and my boyfriend were talking about it, and we don’t want my parents to know about all this. So like if he’s paying for it, would they have to — does he have to sign a whole bunch of papers or anything?

CLINIC: I don’t think so. Everything is confidential.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: But I would take it as soon as you can since the longer you wait the more expensive it is.

CALLER: Okay. Well, the main reason that I’m worried about all this is because I haven’t had my period since like December 21st, and I don’t know what to do.

CLINIC: Have you taken a pregnancy test?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Okay. Well –

CALLER: Could I come in there for one?

CLINIC: Yeah. If you come tomorrow they’re only $5.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: So if you want to come on in anytime tomorrow we can do a pregnancy test to make sure that you are pregnant or it might be something else.

CALLER: Well, would you have to tell my parents if I was getting a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend would be the only way I could get there. Would it be all right if he was there with me?

CLINIC: Yeah, that’s fine.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Our hours, come on in between 9:00 and 3:00.

CALLER: Tomorrow?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control just so that we don’t have to worry about all this again?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Does anybody have to know if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No. Nobody will know.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know — like since I’m not old enough drive, would my boyfriend be able to pick up like the birth control pills?

CLINIC: Yeah. If you just write a note saying that he can pick them up for you, then we can give them to him.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Uh-huh, bye.

CALLER: Thanks.

(phone clicks)

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#531 – Planned Parenthood in Salida, CO

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
233 E 2ND ST
SALIDA, CO 81201-2116
719 / 539-7291

TAPE – 531

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood.

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know of any place that does?

CLINIC: Are you wanting the Planned Parenthood — I have a referral number I could give you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: 1-800-472-7162.

CALLER: Okay. Well, the thing is like, I’m just worried because like — well I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: You’d have to talk to them at that 800 number.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test to see? It’s just I’m scared because I haven’t had my period since like December 21st.

CLINIC: December? Are you a patient with us?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: No? Okay. That’s fine. A walk-in test is $22. But that’s fine.

CALLER: Okay. Well, what day do you do that?

CLINIC: Whenever you’d like.

CALLER: Oh, okay. When are your hours there today?

CLINIC: Well, we can run them up to about 3:00 on any day this week.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything. Is it all right if he’s there with me?

CLINIC: For the test?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: That’s fine.

CALLER: Okay. But the thing is, we don’t want my parents to know about all this. So if my boyfriend’s paying would he have to sign any papers or anything?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: But you still might want to call and talk to the people at the 800 number, because I’m not sure age-wise.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You need to call them first and talk to them.

CALLER: But if I was getting a pregnancy test would you have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: All righty.

CALLER: Well, if the pregnancy test came out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: That would be great, yeah.

CALLER: It’s just we don’t want to have to go through all this again.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: So — but would you have tao my — anybody if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just — the thing is, I can’t drive yet. But would my boyfriend be able to pick up the pills if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: Well, with a note from you, yes.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: I just have a lot of questions. I don’t know. But if I thought of anything else could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: Jeanie.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

(phone clicks)

*** THE END ***

#532 – Planned Parenthood in Durango, CO

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
46 SUTTLE ST
DURANGO, CO 81303-7947
970 / 259-4205

TAPE – 532

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood Service Incorporation. This is Wendy.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: We do.

CALLER: Oh. Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: Well, it depends on how pregnant you are. Up until the 11th week of pregnancy it’s $410. And then it goes up from there.

CALLER: Well, how do you know how pregnant you are?

CLINIC: First thing we do when you would come in would be an ultrasound, okay? I can give you an estimate based on your dates of your last period.

CALLER: Oh. Well, it was like December 21st.

CLINIC: Okay. Let me check for you here. 12/21. Hang on just a minute. 12/21. So it looks like right now somewhere between 9 and 10 weeks from your last period. Again, up until 11 weeks it’s $410. We take cash, credit cards and money orders. We don’t take personal checks.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: And our clinics, we do them one day a week. Next week’s is on Wednesday.

CALLER: Okay. Well, it’s just, the thing is, I’m really worried because like, well my friend said that since like I’m going to be — well I’ll be 14 in March, she said that you guys would have to tell my parents.

CLINIC: Oh, no. No.

CALLER: But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Well, you’re old enough. You’re old enough to take care of it. We don’t have to tell anybody.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: It’s up to you. You know? I mean, that’s your business who you want to tell.

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for anything, and we just — we were talking about all this, and we don’t want my parents to find out. Would he have to sign any papers or anything?

CLINIC: Nope. Nope. No. It’s your decision. Okay? He doesn’t have to sign for you. There’s nothing — you know, it’s — you could come by yourself and it would be fine.

CALLER: Oh. Well, he would be the only way I could get there. Would that be all right?

CLINIC: Yes. That’s fine. Sure. So what you would need to do is just make an appointment, okay? And we can do that now or you can call me back when you’ve talked with him, or whatever you want to do.

CALLER: Okay. Well, could I come in there and get a pregnancy test just to make sure?

CLINIC: Absolutely.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Or you can buy one at the store. If you come in here, they’re $22. If you get one at the store they’re going to be less.

CALLER: Are they usually right though?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, we just don’t want anybody to know about all this. So you wouldn’t have to tell anybody if I came in there for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Nope.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there?

CLINIC: Absolutely.

CALLER: It’s just, we don’t want to have to go through all this again.

CLINIC: Absolutely.

CALLER: So — but if I was on birth control would you have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Nope. No. It’s all your decision. It’s your choice. You’re old enough to have sex, you’re old enough to make those choices for yourself.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Well, so do I need to make an appointment to come in for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: No. You can come in any time for that.

CALLER: Oh, okay, and then just go from there?

CLINIC: Uh-huh.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Okay. If I had any other questions could I call and talk to you?

CLINIC: Absolutely. My name’s Wendy.

CALLER: You’re Wendy? All right. Okay.

CLINIC: Thanks.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#533 – Planned Parenthood in Glenwood Springs, CO

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
410 20TH ST # 203
GLENWOOD SPRINGS, CO 81601-4273
970 / 945-8631

TAPE – 533

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Teresa. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t. We could refer you to a clinic.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Can you hold on just a minute?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Oh, actually the number is 945-8503. Name is Barb. Okay?

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well do you know — like I’m just wondering like, well the thing is I’m going to be 14 in March, and my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and they wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: You know, I’m not sure about that. Would you like me to ask real quick?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on just a minute. (pause) Hello?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: No, they don’t. Your parents won’t know.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Uh-uh.

CALLER: Okay. Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test though? It’s just I’m scared because I haven’t’ had my period since like December 21st, and I don’t know what to do.

CLINIC: December 21st? Okay. You could come in. The charge for a pregnancy test is $22.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And you have to pay that before you get your pregnancy test.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything. Would that be all right?

CLINIC: Yeah. That’s — is he going to come in with you?

CALLER: Is that all right?

CLINIC: No, that’s fine. That’s fine. It doesn’t matter.

CALLER: Okay. I mean, he’d be the only way I could get here too. So.

CLINIC: Excuse me?

CALLER: He would be the only way I could get here too, so.

CLINIC: Okay. No, that’s fine. You could come in at whatever time. You don’t need an appointment to get a pregnancy test. Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Well, it’s just if he was there paying for everything would he have to sign a bunch of papers?

CLINIC: No. Uh-uh.

CALLER: Oh, okay. He’s just worried that my parents would have to find out about all this.

CLINIC: No. Nobody will find out. This is all confidential. Your parents won’t find out. We won’t call your parents, nothing.

CALLER: Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: You would have to make another appointment for that, but yes you could.

CALLER: I could?

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody that I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No. No. No. All of it’s confidential. All our services are confidential.

CALLER: Okay. So you wouldn’t tell anybody about me and my boyfriend or anything?

CLINIC: No. No. No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: What was your name again?

CLINIC: Teresa.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: all right. So just come in like today whenever or –

CLINIC: Um-hum.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: What time today? What time are you –

CLINIC: It doesn’t matter. Our hours are from — today is Wednesday. From 9:00 to 5:00 today.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All right. Bye bye.

CALLER: Thanks. Bye.

(phone clicks)

*** THE END ***

#529 – Planned Parenthood in Trinidad, CO

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
328 S BONAVENTURE AVE #2
TRINIDAD, CO 81082-2086
719 / 846-6000

TAPE – 529

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Good morning. Planned Parenthood. This is Ann.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we do not. But I could give you the telephone number of the center in Colorado Springs.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: It’s 1-800-472-7162.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know, I’m just worried because like — well, I’m going to be 14 in March and my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. I don’t know what the law is. You’ll have to call them. We’re a family planning clinic. So you’ll have to call the abortion clinic and ask them and they can let you know.

CALLER: Well, it’s just, the whole thing is, I’m really worried about all this because I haven’t had my period since like December 21st. And I don’t know what to do. Could I –

CLINIC: Are you sure you’re pregnant?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Have you had a pregnancy test done?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Okay. That would be the first thing that you need to have done I would think.

CALLER: Well, could I come in there for that?

CLINIC: Uh-huh. They’re $22.

CALLER: Okay. Well, my boyfriend said he would pay for everything, but we were talking about all this, and he doesn’t want anyone — like he doesn’t want a whole bunch of people to know about us. Would — if he’s paying, does he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: No. He does — just tell him to give you $22 in cash and come in and have it done.

CALLER: Okay. But he would be the only way I could get there. Would it be all right if he was there with me?

CLINIC: Of course.

CALLER: Oh, okay. All right.

CLINIC: That’s not a problem.

CALLER: Okay. But if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control just so that we don’t have to worry about all this again?

CLINIC: Yep. You sure can.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody that I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: No. Uh-uh. That’s your right in the state of Colorado to receive birth control without any parental involvement.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do my parents have to know about an abortion if I get that?

CLINIC: I don’t know. I don’t think so. But you’d have to call the abortion clinic to find that out.

CALLER: Oh, all right. Well, when do you normally do pregnancy tests?

CLINIC: We’re open Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Today, on Monday, Wednesday and Thursdays we’re here from 9:00 until 4:00 and on Tuesdays from 10:00 to 7:00, and you can just walk in any time and have it done. You don’t need an appointment.

CALLER: Well, how long does it normally take?

CLINIC: Three minutes. The test itself is three minutes.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You have paperwork that you have to fill out, so –

CALLER: Okay. Well, could I come in there like around lunchtime today?

CLINIC: Come in whenever — any time today between the hours of 9:00 and 4:00

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: You can come in any time. Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: All righty. Thanks.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye.

CALLER: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#410 – Planned Parenthood in Longmont, CO

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
195 S MAIN ST # 8
LONGMONT, CO 80501-6218
303 / 772-3600

TAPE – 410

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Kayleen.

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: If you could just hold on one minute, please?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Hi, thanks for holding. You had some questions about abortion?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, the clinic that you’re calling here we don’t do any abortions here. I can give you some numbers for some other Planned Parenthoods, like one in Denver and one in Ft. Collins that does abortions.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Do you want those numbers?

CALLER: Yes, please.

CLINIC: Okay. The one in Denver is 303-321-2458. And there’s a Planned Parenthood in Ft. Collins. Their number is 970-493-0281.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? And if you want I can also give you numbers for two different clinics in Boulder that aren’t Planned Parenthoods. They’re different clinics that do abortions. Would you want them?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay, there’s a Boulder abortion clinic that’s 303-447-1361. And then the Boulder Valley, and that number is 303-442-5160.

CALLER: Okay. Well, could I ask you a quick question?

CLINIC: Okay, you can go ahead. I might not be the best person to answer, but go ahead.

CALLER: Okay. Well, it’s just my friend told me that since like I’ll be 14 in March that they would have to tell my parents I’m getting an abortion. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever and they wouldn’t –

CLINIC: What it is right now in Colorado there is no parental notification laws, so anyone in Colorado can get an abortion without telling their parents right now.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: There’s some stuff going on in the courts where that may change, but right now you’re able to get an abortion without your parents needing to know.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, could I come in there for a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Yep. You can do a pregnancy test here. It would be $5.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I would want my boyfriend to be there with me.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Would that be all right?

CLINIC: Yes, that’s perfectly fine.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just we were talking about it, and we don’t want anyone to know about us. Would you buys be asking a lot of questions?

CLINIC: No. We would just have you fill out a little form with some questions on it like about when your last period was and what you would do if you were pregnant.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Uh-huh, and then everything we do here is confidential between us and you, so we wouldn’t be able to talk to anyone else about anything that you and I would talk about.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, would you have to tell anybody that I was on birth control?

CLINIC: Nope. Nope. Nope. The same thing. We have a really strong confidentiality thing with just us and you.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, what was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Christine.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And we’re open until 5:00 today.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay? Did you know where we are?

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend knows.

CLINIC: Okay, great.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome. Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#332 – Planned Parenthood in Steamboat Springs, CO

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
PO BOX 772865
STEAMBOAT SPRINGS, CO 80477-2865
970 / 879-2212

TAPE – 332

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Christy. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: We don’t, but if you want to come in and have a pregnancy test or even just a referral, we can do that.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: We can set you up. We can tell you where to go.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Would you like to do that?

CALLER: Well, yeah.

CLINIC: When would you like to come in?

CALLER: Well, I don’t know. I’d have to call my boyfriend and see. My problem is, my friend said that since I’ll be 14 in March that you guys have to tell my parents. My boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of everything?

CLINIC: I think it depends on where you go. Some places require parental notification and some don’t. So when you come in, we can talk about that and find one that doesn’t.

CALLER: Well, what about like where you’re at?

CLINIC: I’m sorry?

CALLER: Well, what’s different places? Do you guys have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: We don’t do abortions here.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: We’re just a family planning clinic. But we can refer you. We can tell you who around does them. And we can let you know which ones require parental notification and which ones don’t, and even call them while you’re here and set up an appointment for you.

CALLER: But if I came in for a pregnancy test there, would you have to tell my parents about it?

CLINIC: No, no. We don’t do that.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Is it all right if my boyfriend — my parents can’t stand my boyfriend, so they can’t find out at all.

CLINIC: Well, no. Of course we wouldn’t tell them anything. But your boyfriend wouldn’t be able to sign for you anywhere that of your parents because he’s not a guardian or parent for you. But would you like to come in tomorrow or do you want to call him and see?

CALLER: Yeah. I’d have to call and see when he can come in.

CLINIC: Okay. We’re here tomorrow from 10 to 5.

CALLER: I’m just worried because my last period was December 14th. Is there any way that I’m not pregnant?

CLINIC: Well, are you taking any kind of birth control?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Pills or using condoms?

CALLER: Uh-uh.

CLINIC: Okay. Then I would guess you probably are pregnant. But without doing a pregnancy test I wouldn’t be able to say for sure. But why don’t you call him and see if he can bring you in tomorrow, anytime between 10 and 5.

CALLER: If the pregnancy test was negative or something, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: Absolutely. We can set you up with an appointment probably next week.

CALLER: Because it’s just I don’t want to do this again.

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: You guys wouldn’t have to tell anybody that I was on birth control though, would you?

CLINIC: Nope. We are completely confidential here, and we would never call your parents for any reason.

CALLER: And nobody would have to say anything about my boyfriend or anything?

CLINIC: No. No, we would have no contact with your parents whatsoever.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay? So why don’t you call him and see if he can bring you in tomorrow. And then you can call me back, and I’ll pencil you in for an appointment.

CALLER: Okay. So you’re sure you wouldn’t have to tell anybody at all?

CLINIC: I swear to God. I promise. It will be completely confidential.

CALLER: What was your name again?

CLINIC: Christy.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: So why don’t you call me back in a little while after you talk to him, and we’ll set you up for an appointment tomorrow?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right. We’re open until 5 today. So if you don’t call me back by 5 today, you can call tomorrow after 10.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Okay. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#333 – Planned Parenthood in Fort Collins, CO

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
825 S SHIELDS ST
FORT COLLINS, CO 80521-3590
970 / 493-0281

TAPE – 333

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood. This is Sarah. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Well, do you know how much that cost?

CLINIC: Between 5 and 11 weeks since your last normal period it’s $410.

CALLER: Well, my last period was December 14th.

CLINIC: Okay. It’s been about 10 weeks since your last period. And I’ll just give you the price bracket up from that. Between 12 and 13 weeks it’s $500. And if you’d like IV sedation during the abortion, that’s an additional 50. Okay?

CALLER: My friend told me that since I’ll be 14 in March that you guys have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just say whatever needs to — could he just take care of that?

CLINIC: There’s no parental consent in this state or parental notification, so you don’t have to tell your parents.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Did you want to make an appointment?

CALLER: I have to call my boyfriend to see. But is it all right if he brings me?

CLINIC: Yeah, that’s fine. Yeah. If you like the IV sedation, you need to have somebody drive you. And you probably have to have somebody drive you period.

CALLER: Well, how do I know if I’m pregnant or not?

CLINIC: Have you taken a pregnancy test yet?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Okay. You could do a home test if you want to. Are you in town?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: You are? Or you can come in here. It’s up to you.

CALLER: I’d rather come in there just to make sure I was getting it right.

CLINIC: Okay. Can you come in before 5 today?

CALLER: Well, not today.

CLINIC: Not today? Okay. Well, the reason I ask is because on Wednesdays we offer them for $5, and they’re 22 every other day. So they would be cheaper for you in the store. And they’re pretty accurate. You can just do one. If it comes out positive, that’s all the confirmation that you need.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So it’s up to you. I mean, if you want to come in here, that’s fine. But you’ll be paying a little bit more.

CALLER: What do I do after it’s positive?

CLINIC: And if you decide that you want to have an abortion, then you can give us a call. And we’ll just give you some information, get some information from you, and make an appointment for you. And we provide abortions on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it wasn’t positive, do you guys do birth control?

CLINIC: Yes.

CALLER: It’s just I don’t want to have to go through all this again.

CLINIC: Yeah, I don’t blame you.

CALLER: But if I was on birth control, would you guys have to tell anybody that I was?

CLINIC: Nope.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Not at all.

CALLER: My boyfriend doesn’t want anybody to know.

CLINIC: Right. Okay. Yeah, that’s between you and your physician. It would be against the law for us to reveal that to anybody.

CALLER: Would it be all right if he picked it up? Because I don’t have any way to drive. I mean, I can’t drive.

CLINIC: Picking up monthly? Sure. You can leave us a note in your chart, and then he can do that.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Is it all right if I call you back then?

CLINIC: Absolutely.

CALLER: Okay. Well, what was your name again?

CLINIC: My name is Sarah.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#334 – Planned Parenthood in Greenly, CO

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
3487 W 10TH ST # B
GREENLY, CO 80634-5361
970 / 352-4762

TAPE – 334

(Dialing, phone ringing 1x)

CALLER: Planned Parenthood. This is Sherry (sp).

CALLER: Hi. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: We don’t. Fort Collins Planned Parenthood does though. Do you want their number?

CALLER: Yes, please.

CLINIC: It’s 1-800-360-0665.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Thank you.

CALLER: Is it all right if I ask you a quick question?

CLINIC: Oh, sure. Absolutely.

CALLER: I’m just worried. I’ll be 14 in March, and my friend told me that they would have to tell my parents. But my parents can’t find out. My boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of everything?

CLINIC: Hold on just a second, okay?

CALLER: All right.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Are you there?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: They should not have to know about that.

CALLER: Not at all?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And they can explain that to you when you give them a call. They’ll be happy to answer those questions, but that should be okay.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Could I come in and take a pregnancy test there?

CLINIC: You can. You just unfortunately missed the cut off today. We have donation pregnancy tests from 9 to 4 on Wednesdays. All the other days, they’re $22. So you can definitely come in tomorrow, but it would cost you $22.

CALLER: Well, that’s all right. My boyfriend said he would pay for everything.

CLINIC: Yeah, anytime. That would be fine.

CALLER: I’m worried. My last period was in December.

CLINIC: So you definitely want to come in and get that test done then. And you can just walk in. We’re open tomorrow from 9 to 7.

CALLER: Okay. My boyfriend wanted me to ask if anybody has to know about this at all.

CLINIC: No, not at all.

CALLER: All right. Well, if the pregnancy test was negative, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: Just so that we don’t have to go through all this again.

CLINIC: Yeah, definitely. We could either — now, I don’t know if we’re going to be able to do it tomorrow. We usually just schedule an appointment for that.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: We can definitely schedule that appointment for you because you most likely wouldn’t have to start them this next Sunday. We wait until your period starts, and then you’ll start your pills on the first Sunday after your period starts.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So we should have a little bit of time.

CALLER: So if I was on birth control you wouldn’t have to tell anybody at all?

CLINIC: Not at all.

CALLER: All right. My boyfriend drives, and I don’t. Is it all right if he picks up the pills?

CLINIC: Yeah. That’d be just fine. Once you come in for your consult, which is a $25 visit, that gives you a prescription that’s good for one year with us, to come by and pick up your pills. Your pills since you’re a student are $14 a month. But yeah, if he wants to come by and pick them up, you would just have to tell us when you come in for your consult so we can put it in the computer that whatever his name is can come by and pick up the pills.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: So we might see you tomorrow then.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Thank you.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: Okay. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

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#335 – Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs, CO

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
3958 N ACADEMY BLVD # 108
COLORADO SPRINGS, CO 80917-5911
719 / 573-8880

TAPE – 335

(dialing sounds) (ringing 1X)

CLINIC: Good afternoon. Planned Parenthood. This is Madonna. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: No, we don’t. The Planned Parenthood Services Corp. on West Colorado does them.

CALLER: Okay. Do you have that number?

CLINIC: Yep. It’s 475-7162.

CALLER: Okay. Well, could I ask you a quick question?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: It’s just, my friend told me that — like I’ll be 14 in March — she said that you guys have to, or that they would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of whatever that is?

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’ll be 14 in March.

CLINIC: So you’re 13 right now?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: And you’re with someone who’s 22?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Hmm. Okay. You can go — the law in Colorado is there is no parental consent law when it comes to your reproductive health.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So you can certainly go in and schedule — they’ll want to talk to you directly.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You can schedule an appointment to go in and you can certainly have the procedure done. They will make that appointment for you. Um. But when it comes to an emergency contact when you filling out a chart?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Emergency contact has to be a parent.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: They won’t contact them unless there’s an emergency.

CALLER: Like what kind of emergency?

CLINIC: Well, any kind of emergency. If they have an emergency situation with you while you’re in the center that they have to call an ambulance to send you to the hospital?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: They have to contact your parents.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Yep.

CALLER: Well, could it be my boyfriend’s address and phone number?

CLINIC: No. It has to be a parent.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: But, I mean, they don’t anticipate any problems.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: It’s a just-in-case thing. It’s a just-in-case thing.

CALLER: Well, would you guys — would you guys have to tell my parents about my boyfriend?

CLINIC: Um. Tell them about your boyfriend?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: I don’t believe they’re going to tell them about your boyfriend, but the –

CALLER: It’s just, they don’t know we’re having sex. Like they know him, but they just aren’t — they don’t like him a whole bunch. But they don’t know that we’re having sex at all.

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: And I don’t know what would happen if they found out.

CLINIC: Yes. Well, you know, that’s where, you know, the law area is really gray for me, and I don’t know the answer to that question.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: What’s your name?

CALLER: I’m Christine.

CLINIC: Okay. Christine, when you make the appointment, they’ll, you know, make the appointment for you.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: And when you go in to see them for the actual appointment day, they’re going to sit down with you and they’re going to review your medical info with you.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: They’re going to review your decision, why you’re making it, and then once all that’s done then, you know, they’ll review all that with you and they can let you know.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: At that time.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: They probably know a little bit more about this than I do.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But, yeah, if you’ve done a positive test and you don’t want –

CALLER: Well, I haven’t.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. So how do you know you’re pregnant?

CALLER: Well, I don’t. I’m just — well, I just haven’t had my period since like December 14, so I’m just scared.

CLINIC: Oh. I would do a pregnancy test first then because they’re not going to schedule an appointment for an abortion until you’ve actually done a positive test.

CALLER: Well, could I come in to see you guys and do that there?

CLINIC: Positive — to get a pregnancy test? Absolutely. Yeah. They’re $22.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And it takes — you fill out some paperwork. We run the test and give you the results. It takes about 5 minutes to run the test.

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend can bring me in tomorrow. Is that all right?

CLINIC: Yeah. It’s a walk-in. It’s a walk-in service, so yeah, not a problem. You can walk in for that.

CALLER: Okay. Well, does he have to fill out any papers?

CLINIC: Nope. Nope. Just you.

CALLER: Because he said he doesn’t want anybody to know about him, so.

CLINIC: Okay. So here’s the deal. Why does he not want anybody to know? Have you –

CALLER: Well, he just doesn’t want my parents to know. He doesn’t want me to get in trouble.

CLINIC: But have you asked yourself why he doesn’t want you to? I mean, really?

CALLER: What do you mean? I don’t understand.

CLINIC: You said you’re 13.

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: You tell me he’s 22.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: Okay. According to the law?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: Him even having intercourse with you is statutory rape.

CALLER: What is — what is that? He’s not raping me. We’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: Exactly. But because you’re underage, you’re less than 16, years old?

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: In the eyes of the law, it’s rape, whether you’re consenting or not.

CALLER: Well, what could happen?

CLINIC: I don’t know.

CALLER: Well –

CLINIC: I don’t know.

CALLER: Well, are you going to tell on him?

CLINIC: We won’t.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: But it can happen, yes. Somebody — if the law states — if you’re going in, say you have a positive test and you go in for a termination?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: They — it may have to be reported.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: And so he wants you not to say anything because he already knows.

CALLER: Well, he said that he just doesn’t want me to get in trouble.

CLINIC: No, no. He knows it’s wrong.

CALLER: But he loves me. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: But he doesn’t want to get in trouble. It’s not about you getting in trouble. It’s, he doesn’t want to get in trouble.

CALLER: Well, if I ended up not being pregnant, like after I came in for the pregnancy test, if it wasn’t, if it said that I wasn’t pregnant, do you guys do birth control there?

CLINIC: We do.

CALLER: Okay. But would you guys have to tell anybody anything?

CLINIC: Again, due to patient confidentiality, we, you know, we protect our patients’ confidentiality in that respect again. No parental consent laws when it comes to, when it comes to your reproductive health.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But at the same time, and I would have to look into this, I don’t know but the possibility exists that we would still have to report the incident.

CALLER: Oh. What incident?

CLINIC: That we have a 13-year-old having intercourse with a 22-year-old.

CALLER: Oh. Well, what if I didn’t tell you?

CLINIC: Well, if you didn’t tell us, you didn’t tell us.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: You know. But at the same time, you and i having had this conversation, I know now. You know what I’m saying?

CALLER: Well, should I go someplace else then?

CLINIC: Well, I can’t tell you what to do. I can tell you that even though you’re consenting, the age difference is too great.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: He knows. He absolutely knows. And it’s not about — right now it is not about him not wanting you to get into trouble. I can tell you right now it’s about him not wanting to get in trouble because he knows it’s against the law and it’s illegal what he’s doing, whether you’re consenting or not. He knows it.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: So he’s placing you in a very bad position, and if you’re pregnant it doesn’t matter what decision you make, whether you decide to continue the pregnancy or whether you decide to terminate. Somebody — it will have to be reported.

CALLER: Oh. Well, if I came in for the pregnancy test, would you have to say anything?

CLINIC: Again, I already know.

CALLER: Yeah. So would you tell anybody now?

CLINIC: I don’t know enough bout you to tell anybody now, but it’s — you know, it’s a situation you have to think about. I mean, what I’m trying to do is, I’m trying to let you know, you’re in a really bad situation right now.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Because ultimately even though, you know, he professes his love to you and blah, blah, blah you’re 13, he’s 22. He’s an adult. He’s already grown up. You’re not considered an adult. You’re considered a child.

CALLER: Uh-huh.

CLINIC: And guys like to say whatever they need to say to get what they want, whether — you know, whether, you know, whether we like to hear it or not. And at this point in time, you’re not mature enough to determine whether he’s being truthful and honest with you or not.

CALLER: So you think he’s not honest with me then?

CLINIC: That’s a very distinct possibility. That’s a very distinct possibility. I mean, to be honest with you, yeah, I think he’s just trying to cover his own ass. I think, that’s what I believe. He’s 22 years old. It’s not about not wanting to get you in trouble. It’s about not wanting him to get himself in trouble because he knows, he knows he’s wrong, he knows what he’s doing is wrong, and he knows he can be charged with rape, and he knows he can go to jail for what he’s doing.

CALLER: Well, what can I do then?

CLINIC: Well, you know, at this point in time –

CALLER: It’s just, I don’t want him to go to jail. I love him. I mean, if he wasn’t there I don’t know what I would do.

CLINIC: Well, I mean, I think — you know, number one, you have to ask yourself, you know, whether this is — because of your age, whether this is something that you really need to be involved in. And number two, you probably need to be sharing this information with someone besides the anonymous person you’re talking to. Like, you know, really, because you don’t know me. And I can stand back and be objective and tell you what I see and what I hear and what I know, what little I know about the law. But you’re going to need to share this information with someone.

CALLER: Oh. Like who?

CLINIC: Well, I would, in the first place I would start would be my parents if I could talk to them, and -

CALLER: But I can’t. Like if I could talk to my mom like I talk to you, things would be so much easier.

CLINIC: Okay. Is there anybody else in your, a family member, anybody else?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: An aunt, an uncle?

CALLER: No. We just moved and I don’t know anybody around here at all.

CLINIC: And he’s not — your parents know you guys are dating or they –

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: — just know that you’re friends?

CALLER: He used to work with my dad, so.

CLINIC: Umm. Well, you’re really kind of in one of the, you know, you want to say you’re stuck between a rock and a hard place? That’s where you are right now.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: And because you haven’t had a menstrual cycle in a couple of months, that could mean pregnancy. If it does not mean pregnancy, if you’re not pregnant and this is due to, you know, you’re freaking out, you’re stressed, and you know your period’s going to come, then you come up with a negative test, then you need to step back and start being — what’s the word I’m looking for? — I’m not saying this to insult you at all, but step back from the situation and be a little bit more mature about your choice. Okay? So you really have to look it; and, I mean, you have to ask yourself some relevant questions. Why would a 22-year-old man be interested in a 13-year-old girl? There’s the first question. Okay?

CALLER: Well, he says he loves me. I mean –

CLINIC: You know, when we’re 13 we love to believe, we love to believe that that’s what it is.

CALLER: But he’s a sweetheart. I mean, he said he was going to take care of me forever.

CLINIC: He’s 8 or 9 years older than you are. What if you go and have this pregnancy test and it comes back positive? and, oops, he’s gone, absolutely gone, just dumps you like a hot potato?

CALLER: But he wouldn’t do that. He said he was, he said he wants to take care of me until I’m old and gray and –

CLINIC: Well, you know, it’s nice that he’s saying that and because I don’t know him I can’t tell you for sure that that’s not exactly what he means, but it’s highly suspicious.

CALLER: Well, what do you think I should do?

CLINIC: Well, first of all, you need to find out whether or not you’re pregnant.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Run a preg test, and then with the results of that preg test then you need to make a decision.

CALLER: But would you guys have to tell anybody if I, if I came in for a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Probably.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: I mean, I don’t want to entice you in.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: To do it. But somebody — wherever you go for a pregnancy test, if they have all the pertinent information that you’ve given me, absolutely they will have to report it.

CALLER: Well, should I just not say anything or –

CLINIC: Well, you can’t live in denial. You know, you can’t deny the whole situation. But first thing you need to do is run a preg test. If you want to do a home test, you know, you can do it that way.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I gotta go. I’m at my friend’s house and her mom’s about to be here. I gotta call you back. Is that all right?

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Okay. Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

(phone clicks)

THE END