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#709 – Family Planning Associates Medical Group in Oakland, CA

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FAMILY PLANNING ASSOCIATES MEDICAL GROUP
OAKLAND, CA 94607
510-268-3720

TAPE – 709

(Dialing, phone ringing 3x)

CLINIC: Good morning, Family Planning Specialists. How may I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know how much it cost for that?

CLINIC: Well, it depends upon how far you are into your pregnancy. Do you know?

CALLER: Not really.

CLINIC: Okay. Do you know the first day of your last period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: Okay. According to that last period date, it shows that you’ll be four weeks and four days.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Now here we begin terminating at seven weeks. What type of insurance do you have?

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything.

CLINIC: Okay. It would $400 if you want to be asleep and $300 if you want to be awake.

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend told me you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22, and he said he would take care of everything. Would it be all right if he just took care of it now, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Oh, no, we don’t have to. We don’t tell parents. It’s just that if you are a minor, you will have to have someone here that’s over the age of 21 with you.

CALLER: Okay. So he could be there since he’s 22?

CLINIC: Wait just one moment, okay?

CALLER: Oh, all right.

CLINIC: Don’t go away.

(Long pause – advertisements)

CLINIC: Okay. Thank you for holding. I spoke with one of the managers because I wasn’t really sure how we handled this situation. But what she said is that you will need to bring in a relative that’s over 21 years of age. It cannot be your boyfriend.

CALLER: Oh. I don’t have anyone.

CLINIC: That’s our procedure here.

CALLER: Well, is there anything else I can do?

CLINIC: Is this the first facility that you’ve called?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: You may want to try contacting Women’s Choice Clinic. Their number there is 510-444-5676. And see if they can go ahead and schedule you without your having to have any relatives or parents present. I believe they do, but you may want to call and check.

CALLER: I just wasn’t really sure if I was pregnant. Could I come in there where you’re at and get a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Yeah. We can give you a pregnancy test. We have three pregnancy tests. And you can come in tomorrow from 8:30 to 9:30 if you’d like.

CALLER: Okay. But would anybody have to know?

CLINIC: No. All you’ll do is come in. You’ll fill out a little form so that we can take some urine from you. Then you will leave the urine. You’ll go and call us back between 3 and 5:00 that same day to get your results.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: So it would be all right if my boyfriend brought me then?

CLINIC: Oh, yeah. It will be fine. He can bring you here for your pregnancy test. It’s fine.

CALLER: Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control from you guys?

CLINIC: No. We don’t offer birth control.

CALLER: Oh. Okay.

CLINIC: But I could give you some references where you can go.

CALLER: But would anybody have to know if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: Uh-uh. This is completely confidential. Everything is very confidential.

CALLER: Well, you’ve just been so nice. I wish I could talk to my mom like I talk to you.

CLINIC: (Laughing).

CALLER: If I had any other questions, could I call and ask for you? What’s your name?

CLINIC: My name is Joyce.

CALLER: What was it?

CLINIC: Joyce.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thank you.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye bye.

CALLER: Bye.

***END***

#710 – Family Planning Associates Medical Group in Modesto, CA

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FAMILY PLANNING ASSOCIATES MEDICAL GROUP
MODESTO, CA 95355
209-578-0443

TAPE – 710

(Dialing, phone ringing)

CLINIC: Family Planning Associates. Trish. May I help you.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know how much it cost?

CLINIC: If you’re under 13 weeks pregnant, it’s $370.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how do you know how far along you are?

CLINIC: Well, hold on just a second, okay?

CALLER: All right.

(Radio commercials playing)

(Call disconnected)

(Dialing, phone ringing)

CLINIC: Family Planning Associates. Trish. May I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was on hold, but my friend’s mom came in, and I had to hang up real quick.

CLINIC: Okay. I’m going to be right with you. You’re the next caller, so I’ll be right with you, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay. You wanted to schedule an abortion?

CALLER: Well, I wanted to ask questions.

CLINIC: Okay. Go ahead.

CALLER: Well, I was asking how much it would be.

CLINIC: Okay. When was your last period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: Okay. You are probably somewhere around — January 3rd, somewhere right around nine weeks or so. So you’d be in that 370 range up until 13 weeks, until you’re over 13 weeks.

CALLER: Okay. The thing is, I’m going to be 14 next month. And my friend said that you guys would have to tell mu parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of everything, and you won’t have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: We don’t — no. You don’t need to bring your parents with you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: That’s not required.

CALLER: Okay. So it’s all right if my boyfriend’s there?

CLINIC: Sure.

CALLER: He is going to pay cash for everything.

CLINIC: That’s fine.

CALLER: Well, were just talking about all this, and we don’t want anyone to know about us. If he was paying, would he have to sign anything?

CLINIC: Not if he’s paying with cash. I mean, if he’s paying with a credit card, he would.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So you guys wouldn’t have to know anything about him?

CLINIC: I don’t think so. No.

CALLER: Okay. I really haven’t taken a pregnancy test since — I mean, I haven’t had one yet. I just haven’t had my period for a while, and I’m scared. Would you guys do a pregnancy test first?

CLINIC: Yeah. But if I were you, I would take a test first, just like a home test or whatever.

CALLER: All right. Those are usually right?

CLINIC: Yeah. And then if that’s positive, they call us and schedule the appointment.

CALLER: If it says that I’m not pregnant, could I come there for birth control?

CLINIC: If I were you, I’d go — well, yeah. You can. It’s $80 though. And you get three months worth of pills. And then after that, you’re going to have to pay at a pharmacy the price of birth control pills. So you can do that or you can go through — I think they have programs like Pacific County Clinic or on Planned Parenthood for teenagers.

CALLER: But would anybody have to know if I was on birth control?

CLINIC: No, not at all. Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Thank you.

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

***END***

#711 – Commonwealth’s Health Project in Santa Rosa, CA

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COMMONWEALTH’S HEALTH PROJECT
SANTA ROSA, CA 95403
707-578-1700

TAPE – 711

(Dialing, phone ringing)

CLINIC: Common (unclear) Women.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to say if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Okay. Do you know how much it cost?

CLINIC: It depends on how much you make.

CALLER: Oh. Well, I don’t have a job. It’s just I’m going to be 14 later on this month. And my friend said that — well, would you guys have to tell my parents? Because my boyfriend’s 22, and he said he would take care of everything.

CLINIC: Well, you could get exempted eligibility, which is like Medi-Cal.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, would they have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: Hold on.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Yeah. We won’t tell anyone. It’s confidential, and you go through the Medi-Cal here.

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend said that he would pay for anything, so do I need that Medi-Cal thing?

CLINIC: Well, that way you don’t have to pay for it.

CALLER: How much does it cost? He just doesn’t want anyone to know about anything. So he just was going to pay for everything.

CLINIC: Hold on. Let me check the chart.

(Pause)

What was the date of your —

CALLER: Of my what?

CLINIC: The first day of your last period?

CALLER: January 3rd.

CLINIC: January 3rd?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: So you’re about nine weeks. Medi-Cal is the easiest way to go, and no one will know what it’s for.

CALLER: Okay. So they wouldn’t have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: No, no one would.

CALLER: But would my boyfriend have to fill out any forms?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh, all right.

CLINIC: You would just have to.

CALLER: Okay. Do you guys do pregnancy tests there just to make sure? Because I haven’t had one yet.

CLINIC: Yeah. You can come in and have a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Well, is it any way that it would come up that I wasn’t pregnant?

CLINIC: Well, if you weren’t pregnant, it would come up that you’re not.

CALLER: Do you think that it’s possible that I’m not pregnant if I haven’t had my period that long?

CLINIC: Anything’s possible. But you should come and get a test.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Do you know where we are located?

CALLER: Well, my boyfriend does. But if it came out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control there just so that we don’t have to go through all this again?

CLINIC: Yeah. But you’d have to have an appointment and get an annual exam to do that.

CALLER: All right. How much does that cost?

CLINIC: You can get a little green card that pays for it being that you don’t make any money. Okay?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: And the pregnancy test will be free too because we’ll sign you up for one of the green cards.

CALLER: Oh, okay.

CLINIC: Okay? So just come in, and we’ll do that for you.

CALLER: What time do you guys normally — what time are you normally open?

CLINIC: We close at 6 today.

CALLER: Okay. Well, let me call my boyfriend and call you back. What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Chanel.

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

CLINIC: Bye.

***END***

#712 – Choice Medical Center in San Jose, CA

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CHOICE MEDICAL CENTER
SAN JOSE, CA 95116
408-272-9244

TAPE – 712

(Dialing, phone ringing)

CLINIC: Good afternoon. Thank you for calling Choice Medical. Could you hold, please?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Can I help you?

CALLER: Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know how much it cost for that?

CLINIC: How far along are you?

CALLER: Well, I’m not really sure. I just haven’t had my period since January 3rd.

CLINIC: Okay. If you’re less than 12 weeks, it’s going to be $575.

CALLER: Okay. So how do you know if you are or not?

CLINIC: According to your last menstrual period. You said it was January what?

CALLER: 3rd.

CLINIC: So right now I have you somewhere about nine weeks.

CALLER: Oh, okay. How much did you say it was then? I’m sorry.

CLINIC: $575.

CALLER: Okay. The thing is, I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend says that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of everything? I mean, he was wanting to pay for everything with cash anyway.

CLINIC: Okay. That’s something you would need to talk to the office about. I don’t know if they’re going to tell your parents or not. What city do you live in?

CALLER: I live in San Jose.

CLINIC: I can give you the number to San Jose.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: And that number is 254-9096.

CALLER: Okay. Could I come in there for a pregnancy test though?

CLINIC: Sure. You can walk into the office today between the hours of 9 and 4.

CALLER: Okay. But would anybody have to tell anybody about that?

CLINIC: That I don’t know. That’s something you need to talk to them about.

CALLER: Oh. Okay. Well, let me call them. What was your name?

CLINIC: My name’s Tina.

CALLER: Okay. All right. Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant, could I come into where you’re at and get birth control?

CLINIC: We’re strictly an abortion provider here.

CALLER: Oh, okay. All right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: All right.

CALLER: Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome.

CALLER: Bye.

(Dialing, busy signal)

(Dialing, phone ringing)

CLINIC: Good afternoon, Choice Medical. Can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. Can I talk to Tina real quick?

CLINIC: To who?

CALLER: Oh. Oh, I’m sorry. I just talked to Tina. And she said to call you guys.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. Tina’s a code name we give. This is Choice Medical Group.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: What’s your name?

CALLER: I’m Lisa.

CLINIC: What’s your last name, Lisa?

CALLER: Carter.

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Is Mia?

CALLER: Lisa.

CLINIC: Carter?

CALLER: Lisa Carter.

CLINIC: What’s your number, hon?

CALLER: Oh. I’m at my friend’s house. I just was calling to ask some questions actually.

CLINIC: Oh, okay. We don’t know who tried to call you. What do you need? Probably the corporate office.

CALLER: Huh?

CLINIC: It was probably the corporate office when you first scheduled your appointment.

CALLER: I haven’t scheduled an appointment.

CLINIC: Oh, you haven’t?

CALLER: I called them, and they told me to call you guys.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: I was wondering about getting an abortion.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: The main question is, I’m going to be 14 later on this month. My friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just sign whatever it is and take care of everything, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Well, you’re telling me right now that you’re with a man that is too old for you. You’re 14 years old?

CALLER: Well, I’ll be 14 on the 19th.

CLINIC: Okay. And he’s 22?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: That’s not good (laughing).

CALLER: Why is that not good? What do you mean?

CLINIC: Because he’s over 18. Even though you’re having consensual sex, it’s still statutory.

CALLER: Statutory?

CLINIC: You ever heard of that?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: What could happen? What do you mean?

CLINIC: (Sigh) Well, if you’re under 18, we have you sign a minor’s consent. And it states on there whether your partner is over 21 or under 21. If he’s over 21, that’s basically statutory rape, honey, even though —

CALLER: But he’s not raping me. We’re in love. We’re going to get married.

CLINIC: That doesn’t matter. That does not matter.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, what shall I do then?

CLINIC: Let’s see what it says. When are you going to be 14?

CALLER: On the 19th.

CLINIC: Yeah. I don’t know. Can you hold on real quick?

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Okay.

Do your parents know that you have a boyfriend this old?

CALLER: Yeah, they know him. I mean, he works with my dad. But they have no idea we’re having sex. If they knew about that, I don’t know what they would do.

CLINIC: Right. Okay. I’m going to let you talk to Dawn. She’s the manager. She’s going to explain it to you a little bit more, okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on.

(Pause)

CLINIC: What was your name?

CALLER: Lisa.

CLINIC: Oh, you haven’t been here yet. Okay.

CALLER: Right. The reason why I’m calling is to ask questions.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: The thing is, I’m going to be 14 later on this month. And my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of everything, and you won’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Well, actually, because of your age and his age, I’m going to have to report it to the state.

CALLER: Why?

CLINIC: Because you’re really young, and he’s really old.

CALLER: So it would just be better if I don’t come in there then?

CLINIC: Well, it’s up to you. But I am obligated by law, and so is every other facility like this — we’re obligated by law to call and tell the Department of Health and Human Resources or Human Services.

CALLER: Well, I don’t want anybody to get in trouble. I mean, what can I do?

CLINIC: What I’ve been told will happen is that they’ll probably call you. But I don’t know if they’ll want to press charges against him or not. I mean, your parents may want to press charges against him because you are too young and he is too old. Because, basically, what they call this is statutory rape.

CALLER: But he’s not raping me. We’re in love. We’re going to be married. I don’t understand.

CLINIC: Do your parents know that you want to marry this guy?

CALLER: Yeah. I mean, he works with my dad.

CLINIC: Well then, maybe your parents wouldn’t do anything anyway.

CALLER: Well, they know we’re going out; they just don’t know we’re having sex. I mean, I don’t know what they would do if they found out about that. I mean, they can’t know at all.

CLINIC: But, unfortunately, I have to call. If you come in and I get that information, I am obligated by law as is any other medical provider. Because it’s there to protect children — which you still are — from child abuse, which this could be considered.

CALLER: But I’m not being abused.

CLINIC: It’s against the law. I mean, technically he could go to jail for this.

CALLER: Well, I don’t want him to go to jail.

CLINIC: (Laughs)

CALLER: He’s the only one that’s ever there for me. If he went to jail, I don’t know what I would do.

CLINIC: I’m just telling you I have to report it if you come in. I mean, if you — yeah, I would have to.

CALLER: I’m not really sure, actually, if I’m really pregnant, because I just haven’t had my period since January 3rd, so I’m scared.

CLINIC: Yeah. If you ignore the pregnancy, they’ll definitely find out about if you are, because eventually you’ll start to show, and you’ll have a child. And then your parents will know that you’re having sex.

CALLER: Well, where can I go to get a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Well, you can come into ours.

CALLER: Yeah. But if I come in there, you’re going to send my boyfriend to jail?

CLINIC: (Talking to someone else) The pregnancy test doesn’t say anything like that? No, the pregnancy test doesn’t ask you questions about that.

CALLER: Oh. But if it turned out that I was pregnant, then everyone would get in trouble?

CLINIC: No, no. Because like I said, we don’t necessarily have all that information down on just a pregnancy test. We have you just fill out a form that tells us your name, your address, and things like that. And then you just take a pregnancy test. Or you could try a home pregnancy test. You could try the EPT. That’s a pretty good one. It’s like 15 bucks. Make him buy you one. Basically, you pee on a stick. And you could try that first and see what you get.

CALLER: Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I come in there and get birth control?

CLINIC: No, we don’t, but Planned Parenthood does.

CALLER: Oh. But would they have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: They probably would. If they knew that you were having sex with somebody that old, yes. They’d probably inform — they have to. We have to by law inform. If I don’t do this, and somebody were to find out about it, I would get into some real trouble. It is the law. It’s a state California law that I have to comply with. Every doctor is going to be the same way. There is no escaping this.

CALLER: Well, could I get birth control if they didn’t know?

CLINIC: Well, you can probably get birth control anyway. This isn’t really our business. Our business is that we report it to the state like they tell us to, and then the state deals with it. We’re not here to judge you. It’s like most of us don’t even want to have to report it, you know what I mean?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: It’s because we are obligated by law, we have to do this.

CALLER: Well, if I go to a Planned Parenthood and I didn’t tell them —

CLINIC: I cannot tell you to lie or things like that, but you’ve got to do what you got to do.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You know what I’m saying?

CALLER: Yeah. Okay.

CLINIC: But, definitely, this is something I would have to report on. If you come in and give me your name, and you tell me you’re 14 and your boyfriend is 22; then, yes, I have to report it. There’s too much of discrepancy in your ages.

CALLER: Yeah. Well, I’ve got to think about all this. Could I call you back and talk to you if I had any other questions? What was your name?

CLINIC: My name is Dawn.

CALLER: All right.

CLINIC: Yeah. Okay?

CALLER: Okay, thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome

***END***

#678 – Feminist Women’s Health Center in Sacramento, CA

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FEMINIST WOMEN’S HEALTH CENTER
SACRAMENTO, CA 95816
916-451-0621

TAPE – 678

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Good afternoon, Women’s Health. Would you please hold for a phone counselor?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Thanks.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Thanks for holding. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do. We offer the abortion pill and the surgical procedure.

CALLER: Okay. Do you know how much it will cost?

CLINIC: We have a sliding fee scale that’s based on how far along you are, your income, and your number of dependents.

CALLER: Well, my last period was like January 3rd.

CLINIC: January 3rd?

CALLER: Yes.

CLINIC: So that would make you about eight weeks and four days. About how much do you make a month?

CALLER: Well, the things is, I don’t have a job. I’m going to be 14 in a couple weeks. And my boyfriend said that he would pay for everything. I mean, he’s 22. He said that he would pay for everything. But would you guys have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: No. Everything is totally confidential. Your parents don’t have to know. It’s perfectly legal for you to have an abortion without them knowing. You’re eight weeks and four days. It would be a one-day surgical procedure, and you would be at the bottom of the sliding fee scale. So it would cost you $310.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: The only additional cost, if you’re RH negative, which is a blood type, then we would have to give you a shot of something called Rhogam. And that’s an additional $75. Only about 10 percent of women are RH negative. Also one of the drugs we offer is an IV drug called Setanol, and if you take that it’s an additional $50. But you don’t have to take that. There’s other drugs we offer that are included in the price, that are included in the 310.

CALLER: Well, do you think that there’s any way that I couldn’t be pregnant?

CLINIC: Have you taken a pregnancy test?

CALLER: Well, no. I just haven’t had my period in a while, and we’re both just really scared.

CLINIC: You told me it was January 3rd. Well, the first thing you would want to do definitely is take a pregnancy test. I mean, you could have —

CALLER: Well, do you guys do that there?

CLINIC: Yeah, we do. Do you have any other symptoms like morning sickness or breast swelling, tenderness or weight gain?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Those are other symptoms of pregnancy. You could get a home pregnancy test which is almost as accurate as the test we give here.

CALLER: Well, I would just rather go there and have you guys do it.

CLINIC: Right. Or you could just come in for a pregnancy test which we do on a drop-in basis.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Well, now much does it cost?

CLINIC: Well, actually if I were you I would apply for what’s called the green card. You come in and just tell the receptionist — we do pregnancy tests on a walk-in basis, like from 9 to 4:30. So you just come in, tell the receptionist you want to apply for the green card. You’ll fill out a one-page form, and then she’ll issue you this card.

CALLER: Well, would they have to tell anybody that I was there getting a —

CLINIC: No, no. Everything’s totally confidential. We’re here to help you.

CALLER: What exactly is this card?

CLINIC: What the card is is a state-funded program. You might have seen commercials for it on TV. It’s the Family Pack Program. And it will pay for pap smears, which once you’re sexually active you should start getting those once a year. It will pay for your pap smears. It will pay for STD check, breast exam, birth control. It will pay for condoms. It pays for everything related to a gynecological visit.

CALLER: Oh. Well, my boyfriend said he would take care of everything.

CLINIC: Right. I mean, I would still recommend getting the card. But if he wants to pay cash for the pregnancy test it’s only $15.

CALLER: Oh, okay. Yeah, he said that he would take care of everything.

CLINIC: Okay. So why don’t you come in as soon as you can to have the test, and they’ll also have a consultation with you and go over all your options with you.

CALLER: If it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control?

CLINIC: Yeah, definitely.

CALLER: It’s just me and my boyfriend don’t want to worry about all this again.

CLINIC: Yeah, totally. That would be the best thing for you to do. We can give you a birth control consultation and everything. And that’s why it would really be beneficial for you to get that card. I mean, it doesn’t pay for abortion, but it pays for every other kind of birth control, which is what it sounds like you need. The problem might just be that you’re having an absence of periods which could be for a number of reasons. And sometimes getting on birth control pills can actually regulate your period.

CALLER: Okay. Well, would that green card thing have to go through my house though?

CLINIC: No, no. Nothing’s ever sent to your house. It’s not connected to your — they’ll ask for your address I think on the form, but they would never send you anything.

CALLER: Well, could I send it to my boyfriend’s address?

CLINIC: Yeah. You could put your boyfriend’s address on there if you wanted. You can put whatever you want on the form. You could probably use totally fake information and I don’t think they would know. But lots of women who want to keep their services confidential come to our clinic, and lots of them use that card.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Yeah. Do you know where we’re located?

CALLER: My boyfriend does.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, we’re not open on Mondays, but you can come in as soon as tomorrow. And if you need to make an appointment or anything like that, they’ll have you call this line.

CALLER: My boyfriend and I don’t want anybody to know about us. Are you sure nobody would have to know anything?

CLINIC: I’m positive. Okay?

CALLER: All right. Are you there?

CLINIC: Yeah.

CALLER: I was just wondering, if I had any other questions, could I call and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: Yeah. My name is Misty. And I’m not always working the phone, but you can always ask for me. If not, anyone here should be able to help you. And everyone who works here is pretty friendly —

CALLER: Well, I would just rather talk to you.

CLINIC: — and they’ll answer any questions you have; you know what I’m saying? I work with a lot of really nice people. Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: You’re welcome.

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#679 – Family Planning Assoc. Medical Group in Riverside, CA

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FAMILY PLANNING ASSOC. MEDICAL GROUP
RIVERSIDE, CA 92506
909-359-1522

TAPE – 679

(Dialing, phone ringing 3x)

CLINIC: Family Planning Associates. This is Kristen.

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: We do on Tuesdays and Fridays.

CALLER: Okay. Well, how much does that cost?

CLINIC: Do you know how far along you are?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Do you think you’re over 13 weeks?

CALLER: Well, I don’t know. I just haven’t had my period since January 3rd, and I’m just worried.

CLINIC: Okay. We only do surgeries here up to 13 weeks. And it’s $350 to be asleep and 310 to stay awake.

CALLER: Oh, okay. The thing is, I’m going to be 14 in a couple weeks, and my friend told me that you guys have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: No. He would probably have to just sign some forms in when he gets here.

CALLER: Oh, really?

CLINIC: Yeah. And you’d have to fill out some forms saying that you weren’t forced and this is by your choice. But we would have to report that because you are under age.

CALLER: Who would you have to report it to?

CLINIC: To a department.

CALLER: Department?

CLINIC: Um-hmm.

CALLER: What department?

CLINIC: Of Health.

CALLER: Oh. Well, would they have to tell my parents?

CLINIC: Really, after you do your consent and everything, it’s doubtful. Let me find out how many more forms your boyfriend would have to do. Do you want to hold on one second?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Thanks.

(Pause)

CLINIC: Okay. So yeah, basically if your boyfriend’s going to come in with you, again we’ll just have to ask you some questions to make sure that you consented and that you weren’t forced or anything. But it does have to go to the Child Protection Agency. And it is possible that they can contact you.

CALLER: Oh. Well, I don’t want anyone to know about us. Would it just be better if he wasn’t there then?

CLINIC: If who wasn’t there?

CALLER: My boyfriend.

CLINIC: No. He doesn’t have to be here anyway. We’d still have to ask you those questions. And for us we have to report it; we have no choice. And that’s a state law.

CALLER: Oh. So there’s no way that my parents wouldn’t find out eventually?

CLINIC: It is possible that they can because you are under age. I can’t guarantee that, but by law that’s what we have to do.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: Not necessarily that they will contact them, but again, you have to know that it’s possible.

CALLER: Well, what should I do then? I don’t want anyone to get in trouble.

CLINIC: And you know that could happen, right? Because he is older. But again, by law we have to report that. But we would put on there that it was consented.

CALLER: Well, yeah.

CLINIC: But again, that could happen.

CALLER: What can I do then? I mean, I don’t want to come in there and have my boyfriend get in trouble.

CLINIC: Well, we’re not going to do anything.

CALLER: But you’re going to report it, and then he’ll get in trouble, right?

CLINIC: Even if he wasn’t here we would still have to ask you who he is and that it was a consent. Because again, because you are younger and he is older, that’s what you have to do. If your parents did find out, that would have to be up to your parents. You know?

CALLER: So is there any other place I could go?

CLINIC: That’s it. Any other place that you go to — which I don’t know where you would go — by law they have to report it.

CALLER: Oh. So even though you don’t have to tell my parents, you’d have to —

CLINIC: We’re not going to tell your parents.

CALLER: Even though you don’t have to tell my parents, you’d have to report it to the people who would tell my parents?

CLINIC: Correct. Correct. Just to report the fact — because you are under age — that you are sexually active. Not necessarily they will contact your parents, but it is possible. And you would have to know that.

CALLER: Well, what if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant?

CLINIC: Then that doesn’t matter. Then we wouldn’t have to report it.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So could I get birth control pills then?

CLINIC: You could. You’d have to get a pap smear with us, and that’s a $50 charge. I’m sorry. The price went up. It’s $80 now for a pap smear.

CALLER: Oh, okay. But you wouldn’t have to report that I was on birth control, would you?

CLINIC: Actually the nurse, I’m sure she’ll ask you some questions.

(Talking to someone else) If she were to go on the pill, would the nurse have to report that?

Okay. So we’d be able to put you on the pill but not report that. But if you did have surgery with us, that is something by law that we’d have to report.

What makes you think you’re pregnant or not pregnant?

CALLER: Well, I just haven’t had my period since like January 3rd.

CLINIC: Have you taken a pregnancy test?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Are you using any type of birth control?

CALLER: No.

CLINIC: Well, your first step probably if you want to come in here is you can get a free pregnancy test.

CALLER: Really?

CLINIC: Yeah. Or you can buy one over the counter.

CALLER: Are the ones over the counter usually right though?

CLINIC: Yeah. They’re pretty accurate. And that would be your first step. And then from there we can figure out what’s the next step. But first you want to find out if you’re pregnant or not instead of thinking about all this and worrying about all of it until you find out you are pregnant.

CALLER: Okay. All right. Well, if I was on birth control would my boyfriend be able to pick up the birth control pills? It’s just I can’t drive, and he would be the only way that —

CLINIC: He can come with you, yeah. I mean, he can’t come in the room with you or anything, but he can drive you here. You’d have the pap smear done and give you birth control pills.

CALLER: Well, even after all that to get the extra ones.

CLINIC: We’ll start you off with one pack, and then we’ll give you a prescription which you would have to take to a pharmacy.

CALLER: Oh, okay. All right. When do you guys normally do the pregnancy tests?

CLINIC: The pregnancy test is Monday through Friday from 8 a.m. to 4:15.

CALLER: Okay. Is that just like a walk-in thing?

CLINIC: Yeah, uh-huh. No appointment.

CALLER: Okay. All right. Well, let me call my boyfriend and see what he has to say.

CLINIC: Yeah, I would have him go to the store and get you a pregnancy test, and then do that first.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Thanks.

CLINIC: Uh-huh. Bye.

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#680 – Family Planning Associates Medical Group in San Bernardino, CA

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FAMILY PLANNING ASSOCIATES MEDICAL GROUP
SAN BERNARDINO, CA 92508
909-885-0282

TAPE – 680

(dialing sounds) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Family Planning Associates

CALLER: Is this — where is this?

CLINIC: Family Planning Associates.

CALLER: Oh, okay. I’m sorry. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know how much that costs?

CLINIC: It costs $350 to be asleep and $310 to be awake.

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you know — the thing is, I’m going to be 14 in a couple of weeks, and I just — my friend told me that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Could he just take care of it and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: How old are you?

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 in a couple weeks.

CLINIC: Oh, girl. Yeah. We would have to report it.

CALLER: To who?

CLINIC: To Child Protective Service.

CALLER: Why?

CLINIC: Because your boyfriend — one, you’re under of age, you’re 14. Two, he’s 22 years old.

CALLER: Okay. Well, what would happen? I mean, would he get in trouble? I mean, I don’t want him to get in trouble.

CLINIC: We would have to call your mom.

CALLER: Well, you can’t call my mom. I mean, there’s no way — you can’t tell my mom.

CLINIC: I know — I’m letting you know right now.

CALLER: Well, what can I do? I mean, my parents can’t find out at all. If they found out, I don’t know what they would do.

CLINIC: Well, ma’am, I don’t want to put you in a spot either, you know? But I’m telling you what could happen.

CALLER: Well, is there anything I can do so that they don’t find out?

CLINIC: I tell you — I don’t know.

CALLER: You don’t know? Well, I wasn’t really sure actually if I was pregnant. I just haven’t had my period since like January 3, and I’m just really scared.

CLINIC: Okay, if it’s January 3, let me see. What’s today? It’s the 4th? Well, not unless you want to come in and do a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Well, would you have to report it then?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: I’m going to take a pregnancy test. The one you have to pay for is the $10 one. It’s too early to take the free one.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So the early one would detect it if you’re pregnant or not.

CALLER: Okay. Well, if it ended up that I wasn’t pregnant could I get birth control just so that we don’t have to worry about this?

CLINIC: We could start your birth control.

CALLER: But would you have to report it then?

CLINIC: No.

CALLER: If I was on birth control?

CLINIC: Uh-uh.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Well, do you think — how much does the birth control cost?

CLINIC: Well, getting the pap smear done and with the pap smear and the pills I believe it’s $80.

CALLER: Okay. But if I was on birth control you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: I don’t think so — not on birth control.

CALLER: Okay. Well, so, I don’t know. I’m just really scared now.

CLINIC: Okay. Do you want to come in for a pregnancy test first of all so we can get that out of the way?

CALLER: Okay. Well, what time do you guys normally do those?

CLINIC: Well, you could come in right now. We close at 4:30, but just be here by 4:15.

CALLER: Oh, well, my boyfriend’s at work until 5:00, so I can’t come in today.

CLINIC: We are open Monday through Friday to 4:30, but you have to be here by 4:15.

CALLER: Okay. Well, I’ll call my boyfriend and see when he can get the time off work. But do I need like an appointment or anything?

CLINIC: No, you just walk in.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Well, would it be better if I don’t bring in him though?

CLINIC: No. That doesn’t matter right now. I mean, you first want to find out exactly if you’re pregnant or not. You know what I mean? We don’t ask you if that’s your boyfriend who brings you in.

CALLER: But you wouldn’t have to report if –

CLINIC: No. No.

CALLER: — I was getting a pregnancy test?

CLINIC: Uh-uh.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: All right. Okay.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: Thank you.

CLINIC: Bye bye.

(phone clicks)

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#677 – Planned Parenthood in Oakland, CA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
MC ARTHUR PARK
OAKLAND, CA 94609
510-601-4705

TAPE – 677

(Dialing, phone ringing 2x)

CLINIC: Planned Parenthood McArthur. Zemma (ph).

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Up to a certain time, yes.

CALLER: Okay. Well, what is that certain time?

CLINIC: I’m going to give you an 800 number, and you can call them, and they’ll tell you.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: 1-800-967-7526.

CALLER: Where is that?

CLINIC: All appointments are made through the customer service number. That’s the one I just gave you.

CALLER: The thing is, I’m going to be 14 on the 20th, and my friend said you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend’s 22. Would he be able to take care of it?

CLINIC: The state of California has no parental consent. So no, we don’t have to tell your parents anything. How old are you?

CALLER: I’m going to be 14 on the 20th.

CLINIC: Nope.

CALLER: So it’s okay? But my boyfriend’s 22. Can he just take care of it?

CLINIC: What you mean can he take care of it?

CALLER: Well, he’s 22. Is he old enough to take care of it, and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: We don’t tell anybody. Your records is your record. If your parents think that you have had an abortion, and if they want to petition the court and get a court order, we have to comply with the court and give up your records. But other than that, without a court order nobody gets to see your records.

CALLER: Oh, okay. So nobody would know about my boyfriend and me?

CLINIC: Huh?

CALLER: So nobody would know about my boyfriend and me?

CLINIC: Uh-uh. No. They want to know about you. Everything is confidential. Your records is confidential. The state of California has no parental consent laws. So that means you can go and do whatever you want to do in that respect, and they don’t have to tell you.

CALLER: Okay. Well, the main reason why I’m worried about all this and wanted to get an abortion is because I haven’t had my period since like January 3rd. But would I be able to come in there and get a pregnancy test just to make sure?

CLINIC: You can do a pregnancy test or whatever center you’re near go have a pregnancy test done. And we do up to 12 weeks. If you’re beyond 12 weeks, then there are other places you can go but we won’t do it.

CALLER: Do you guys do pregnancy tests there?

CLINIC: We do.

CALLER: Oh, okay. My boyfriend told me to call you guys and wanted to go there.

CLINIC: Yeah? Well, do you live near this office?

CALLER: Well, no. That’s why we wanted to go there so that —

CLINIC: Where do you live?

CALLER: Huh?

CLINIC: Where you live?

CALLER: I live in Lacey (unclear).

CLINIC: Okay. Is that near Stockton somewhere? Is that Stockton Way?

CALLER: Yeah, toward there.

CLINIC: Well, I mean you don’t have to drive this far for a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Well, we just didn’t want anyone to see us that we knew.

CLINIC: Yeah. Well, you live in Tracey. There’s got to be some places around there. I don’t know all of them. You can call information and tell them to give you the phone number.

CALLER: It’s just my boyfriend wanted to take me to you guys, so we wanted to go there. But if turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I get birth control you think?

CLINIC: Yes, but I don’t think you’d get it on the same day.

CALLER: Oh.

CLINIC: But that’s what I was saying because you can call information and ask them to give you the Planned Parenthood nearest you.

CALLER: But I didn’t want to go to anyplace near me.

CLINIC: Oh, okay.

CALLER: That’s the thing.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, it’s your decision. We do pregnancy tests on Mondays and Tuesday from 10 to 12 and from 1 to 3.

CALLER: Well, if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant, could I come there and get birth control too?

CLINIC: If you want to drive back on another day. You won’t get it on the same day.

CALLER: Yeah, that’s fine.

CLINIC: Okay.

CALLER: But would you have to tell anybody if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: There’s no law that says we have to tell anybody about anything. Your record is sealed. The only way anybody can get access to your records, they have to go to court and petition those records.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: You see what I’m saying?

CALLER: Yeah.

CLINIC: And then we have to abide with the law. We’re not going to lie for anybody. But we have to, yeah. But other than that, no.

CALLER: I need to talk to my boyfriend. Could I call you back? What was your name?

CLINIC: Emma.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But you need to make sure you don’t drive that far unless you know when we are doing the testing so that you make sure you come during those hours.

CALLER: Okay. Thank you.

CLINIC: Bye.

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#629 – Planned Parenthood in San Jose, CA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
3131 ALUM ROCK AVE.
SAN JOSE, CA 95127-2902
408-729-7600

TAPE – 629

(dialing sound) (ringing 2X)

RECORDING: You have reached Planned Parenthood on Alum Rock Avenue. If this is a life-threatening emergency hang up and dial 911. If you know your party’s extension, dial it now. (Spanish) (dial sound) One moment, please, while I transfer your call. (music)

CLINIC: Hello.

CALLER: I was actually wondering if you guys do abortions there.

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know — like I’m just kind of worried because like I’m going to be 14 later on this month, and my friend said that you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend is 22. Could he just sign whatever it is and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Okay. Hold on. (music) No, this is confidential. Your parents will not know about this.

CALLER: Okay. The main reason why I’m worried about all this is because like I haven’t had my period since like December 26, and I’m just really scared.

CLINIC: Yeah. You should come in for a pregnancy test.

CALLER: Oh. Well, how long does it take for that?

CLINIC: Pregnancy test takes about maybe half an hour.

CALLER: Really? Well, okay. But if it turned out that I wasn’t pregnant could I get birth control?

CLINIC: Yes, you can.

CALLER: Oh. Well, would you have to tell anybody about that though?

CLINIC: No. Everything here is confidential.

CALLER: Oh, okay. I just have a lot of questions, but I can’t think of them right now. Could I call you back and talk to you? What was your name?

CLINIC: No, you could just talk to anybody. That’s fine.

CALLER: Oh, all right.

CLINIC: Okay?

CALLER: Okay. Thanks.

CLINIC: Bye.

(phone clicks)

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#630 – Planned Parenthood in Ventura, CA

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PLANNED PARENTHOOD
5400 RALSTON ST.
VENTURA, CA 93003-6002
805-658-3232

TAPE – 630

(dialing sound) (ringing 2X)

CLINIC: Thanks for calling Planned Parenthood of Ventura this is Isabella. How can I help you?

CALLER: Hi. Yeah. I was calling to see if you guys do abortions there?

CLINIC: Yes, we do.

CALLER: Oh. Well, do you know if you have to be like — well, I’m going to be 14 later on this month and my friend told me you guys would have to tell my parents. But my boyfriend is 22. Is he old enough to take care of it and you wouldn’t have to tell anybody?

CLINIC: Okay, when you come in for services here all our services are confidential. We wouldn’t need to include your parents or your boyfriend.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just my boyfriend — we were all talking about this and he said that he would pay for everything, but would he have to –

CLINIC: That’s fine, but he doesn’t — he has no involvement. I mean, you’ll be the patient.

CALLER: Okay. How much is it going to cost?

CLINIC: It runs anywhere from $350 to $475.

CALLER: Okay. It’s just, the thing is I haven’t had my period since like December 26, and that’s the main reason why I’m wondering about all this.

CLINIC: Okay. Well, you can come in for a pregnancy test on Tuesday between 4 and 6 and they’ll explain, they’ll do a pregnancy test and then explain your options and if you decide to terminate they’ll explain the procedure to you.

CALLER: Okay. So if the pregnancy test came out that I wasn’t pregnant I could get birth control there?

CLINIC: Yes, you can.

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: But not on that time slot. Okay?

CALLER: Okay.

CLINIC: So why don’t you come in between 4 and 6, and then if everything’s good then we can make you an appointment for that same week to come in for birth control.

CALLER: Okay. But would anyone have to know if I was on birth control though?

CLINIC: All information is confidential. The only way they would know is if they went through your stuff. They call us, we can’t say anything.

CALLER: Okay. You want me to come in at 4?

CLINIC: It’s best if you come in at 4.

CALLER: Okay. I have to call my boyfriend to see, but is it all right if he comes with me?

CLINIC: That’s fine.

CALLER: Okay. I wouldn’t have any other way to get there. All right. Thank you.

CLINIC: All right then. Bye bye.

(phone clicks)

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